Colonial & Magnolia Self Storage | 3-story Mixed-Use [Under Construction]

[dcluley98]

3-story mixed use building with Self Storage as primary business 96,907 SF on floors 2 and 3 and 11, 914 SF of retail/ restaurant and parking on the ground floor.

http://www.cityoforlando.net/city-planning/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/2018/07/ARB2017-10020report.pdf

Corner of Colonial & Magnolia:

Colonial looking West:

Hillcrest & Magnolia looking east:

GF Site Plan and Site Location:
 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2018 by dcluley98

[codypet]

I think this is the first I noticed the drive thru restaurant there.  Makes the perfect spot for an Urban McDonald's.

[dcluley98]

I was thinking it would be a Starbucks, but they are putting one on Fern Creek/Colonial.  

What would really make sense would be the DT hardware store you all always are clamoring for. Self Storage and urban hardware store seems to go together a bit for people who are moving in/out and or temporarily putting stuff while they fix things. 

Edited November 30, 2018 by dcluley98

[codypet]

I was talking to my coworkers who are convinced that its Chick-fil-a.   I disagree because CFA is right down the road and they don't saturate areas like other fast food places do.  So who else could it be?

• PDQ - Maybe but I feel like they're still getting footing in the market to open something like that.
• Zaxby's - Maybe
• McDonalds - I feel like this is in the sweet spot between E Colonial, WP, SODO, and W Colonial
• Burger King  -They just renovated the one just west of here.
• Wendy's.  - They closed OBT/Colonial, but FH has one just up the road.
• Dunkin.  - There's one just south of here in Cresent and one planned across from Lazy Moon
• Starbucks - (we've already covered.  Also the hotel just to the north serves Starbucks inside)
• Jimmy John's - Maybe. (This area is outside the delivery area for any of the other ones.
• Panera - Nope.  (Probably not large enough)
• Subway - Skyhouse has one nearby and there's one in WP and CP
• Pollo Tropical - Another Maybe
• Yum Brands (Tacobell Pizza Hut KFC) - Possible

 

Edited November 30, 2018 by codypet

[sunshine]

probably Taco Bell

[dcluley98]

Only if they serve beer!  Haha! 

I still think it's going to be a Starbucks.  Starbucks do their homework and front run large developments, and are proven to saturate areas when they see a population increase coming in an area. Often, they have locations very close to other ones as long as the traffic is there. Also, there is limited parking under the building so it lends itself more to a quick pickup/drive through more, which is what a Starbucks or Dunkin' would be. I wouldn't rule out other large chains with urban stores such as McD or KFC or Taco Hell though, or one of the smaller sub shops that rely on drive through and deliveries like Jimmie Johns or Jersey Mikes. . . I highly doubt it will be a Chick Fil A. 

Edited November 30, 2018 by dcluley98

[JFW657]

ABC Liquor.

[spenser1058]

10 hours ago, JFW657 said:

ABC Liquor.

With Mucho Liquors gone, that would be a definite plus, although Total Wine’s so much cheaper I’d still schlepp to Colonial Plaza.

[Jernigan]

There’s a new liquor store going in on Washington I think in Thornton Park - maybe where the Veranda office was.

Is this speculation based on this being built to suit a tenant or just in hopes one swoopes in?  

[spenser1058]

I haven’t heard it’s official yet. There was a liquor store on Washington in the early days of TP that didn’t last very long. Maybe this time will be a keeper.

Paul Bracker tried to get a Publix Liquors at The Paramount before he retired after WaMu crashed and burned but Sage Dental beat him out. I would have preferred the booze!

[JFW657]

I think the one clue that most supports the possibility of it being a liquor store, whether ABC or some other brand, is the drive thru.

Because if there is one thing downtown Orlando is in dire need of, it's a drive-thru liquor store.

 

[dcluley98]

Do they accept e-scooters? 

[jrs2]

I was against this at first, but now, I'm thinking it may be a good addition, in that, it may have similar verticality that Steelhouse more or less has at Orange & 50.  True, I am upset they are leveling the property and removing that- older city-type of parcel elevation you see here and there.  But, it is a very visible corner.  Hopefully the Sentinel property doesn't use it's height and mass to match it's own development with when that ever gets off the ground.

[Xander]

What an absolute waste of a prime location.  A storage facility? On Colonial and Magnolia?? Some place to just store your junk? Unimaginative and lame.

[codypet]

I will say at least there's ground floor retail.   Seems based off of the FP that the storage facility part is upstairs.

[Jernigan]

Agreed, it’s mostly about the retail.  If it has good retail then it will serve me better than Steelhouse or Residence Inn.   That said, those other uses bring in foot traffic.

[jrs2]

22 hours ago, codypet said:

I will say at least there's ground floor retail.   Seems based off of the FP that the storage facility part is upstairs.

I was not aware of this...great plus.

[Xander]

22 hours ago, Jernigan said:

Agreed, it’s mostly about the retail.  If it has good retail then it will serve me better than Steelhouse or Residence Inn.   That said, those other uses bring in foot traffic.

Well that's at least a plus. 

[dcluley98]

Concrete footers are poured and they are starting vertical construction:

Edited February 9, 2019 by dcluley98

[codypet]

So the steel trusses are up for the 1st story.  One thing I noticed is Turner, (the company building this) has its construction offices in the old Sentinel Press building.  Wawa has also moved their truck staging into another part of the press building and away from the empty lot a block to the south.   Is there a plan for that southern block of the Sentinel?   I know the northern block has a few years left on their lease, but it sounded like once that's up, the Sentinel will likely move out of the building.

[Universe_Explorer]

I was skeptical at first, but now that I've seen the first floor trusses I honestly think removing the berm and leveling the ground makes this all fit much better with the streetscape, I never realized how weird that part of the corner was until it was razed (and I go passed it almost daily).

[dcluley98]

This is a combo of Structural Steel and CMU infill. Interesting structural design. Because of the use and the weight and spaces involved, this has a huge steel truss support system and a very large floor height. The first floor (now with decking on) seems to be like 18 feet tall. Will be interesting to see how high the building is when done. 

Edited March 15, 2019 by dcluley98

[dcluley98]

They are starting the 2nd floor of this with structural steel going up. This building will be a lot taller than I expected. The floor heights are like 15 feet, I guess due to storage unit capacity. It will be over 40' tall and the corner will look very different. 

Edited April 28, 2019 by dcluley98

[dcluley98]

Here's a photo of the decking going on the 2nd floor and the 3rd floor steel and stairwell/elevator towers up. Looks to be about 45-50' tall to top of 3rd floor, not including roof elements such as the parapets. 

[spenser1058]

18 minutes ago, dcluley98 said:

Here's a photo of the decking going on the 2nd floor and the 3rd floor steel and stairwell/elevator towers up. Looks to be about 45-50' tall to top of 3rd floor, not including roof elements such as the parapets. 

Such an iconic gateway to downtown! (Frankly, I think we should bring back the dynamic neon Phillips 66 sign that was about 10’ x 10’ - at least it was interesting at night).