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I'm far from a bible thumper, but my excitement for this project is muted by the so so nature of Casinos.  They can be a boon if done right, but they also can introduce vice and in some instance blight to the surrounding area.   The city needs to review this proposal very carefully to make sure that it will solve more problems then what it causes. 

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Great idea. Not sure of the location. I'm sure waterfront with light rail stop is the primary draw for this location. Fort Norfolk area seems like a great place for this, except light rail stop is pretty far from the waterfront there.

If someone thinks it's viable (didn't read article), I say let them go for it.

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I don’t see a lot of blight around mgm or Charlestown. I think that angle is over played. People who make poor decisions with their money are going to continue to do so, casino or not. 

 

We are OK with the poor wasting money on scratchers but god forbid they play a table game. Personally, I love this idea. Casinos are a lot of fun if you are responsible about it, like anything. 

 

Im not sure exactly what type of approvals are needed, since they are already recognized as a solvern nation.  

 

Feel sorry for portsmouth, as quite a few years ago they wanted to look into getting a casino but were quickly shot down.  

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If I understand the article correctly, this is a Native American casino, so it wouldn't have to clear as many hurdles as a Hard Rock or MGM casino.

I agree with Qdeathstar...I've played slot machines and bought many lottery tickets over the years. I dunno if casinos are as addictive, but anytime I'm in 7-11, I see someone buying a ton of scratch off or Lotto tickets. Even just the Pick 3. There's several bingo halls around here. I think if people see an opportunity to gamble their check, they'll take it. If nothing else, it gives folks another entertainment option downtown, esp. if they can build an arena like Mohegan Sun in Connecticut or the MGM Garden in Vegas.

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Casino's also bring entertainment and a fun night out on the town, multiple bars and places to dance usually. It's something for everyone. I don't think you have to worry about the negative affect until the whole city is full of them, such as Atlantic City. It will compliment Norfolk nicely, keep revenues from heading up to dover and help redevelope that area. Win win, plus the design looks awesome from the image, technically another high rise right?

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21 hours ago, Norf native said:

Blew this up and did some counting. Had trouble with the bottom section but this looks to be about 29 floors. Possibly a new tallest for Norfolk depending on floor to ceiling height.

Edit: Counted again. It’s exactly 30 floors. If the casino falls through I hope they at least retain this land and design. This would be a wonderful signature tower in a mixed use project.

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I can't find the architect either. I love the design...if this goes forward the city should just sit back and let this roll out with what they proposed. On the flip side they should also hold them to this design and don't let them cheapen it. 

 

The twin buildings in the back look to be roughly 20. 

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I saw that part but I’m 99.9% certain that they contracted that work out. I doubt they have an in house architect, that would be unusual. I don’t see this design getting dulled down either.  Casinos are all about being flashy and attracting attention. This is probably the dullest design that they came up with, but it’s what they thought they could get past Norfolk’s design review.  :lol:

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On 12/19/2018 at 4:14 PM, vaceltic said:

As a Richmond resident, I think we dodged a bullet, as the original proposal sought to create this in nearby New Kent County. I wonder if MGM protested the proximity of the Casino to their new one at National harbor outside DC. 

What? A Bullet?

Yeah, a bullet...train straight to the bank! We'll gladly take this bullet for you. Or from you.

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This is why we can't have nice things. Please tell me that this tribe is not going to try and torpedo this significant economic development that would benefit all due to a p#$@'g contest over land. Please tell me that is not the case. It would be quite fitting for this deal to fall through over something so petty. You've been in the area since the 1600s? Great. Why over 418 years have you not proposed a development like this only to raise objection when someone else does? They need to find a way to work together on this. If they care about the community in which they live, they will not try to kill an economic deal that will benefit said community. It's ridiculous how hard it is to get anything major done in HR.

https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article/syndication/facebook-instant/nansemond-indian-tribe-raises-concerns-on-norfolk-casino/291-314168a7-4018-4226-89a4-db75b8434701

This second article, also from wvec, is saying they're not against it. A bit confusing what their stance is. Hopefully this is the case. I think this whole impasse can be resolved if the pamunkey simply offer them a certain number of jobs in exchange for allowing the development to go through. That may also help the pamunkey claim when they go before the feds if they have nansemond backing.  Let's hope that for once disparate groups in Hampton Roads band together for the good of all.

https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article/news/local/mycity/norfolk/nansemond-indian-tribe-responds-to-a-possible-casino-in-norfolk/291-a4ac2c1e-25e2-4bb4-ac2e-5f29154ef51c

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