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12 hours ago, metalman said:

Kevin, out of curiosity, do you work for The Rivers casino or something related to the Portsmouth casino project?  

No lol

 

12 hours ago, baobabs727 said:

Good question.  Or maybe he works for Cordish. ;-)  Cordish never got hold of a bone that it didn't grind into dust!

Cordish got done dirty. But it is what it is. 

On 5/12/2022 at 6:32 PM, BFG said:

A few years ago Norfolk and Portsmouth talked about collaborating to unify their two downtowns and their amenities. I forget what the plan entailed but the waterfront casino would've been a great first step. I also remember someone proposed a special ferry or water taxi that would've gone between the two casinos. For that reason, the location they chose for Rivers doesn't make sense to me and seems isolated, considering people already try to avoid the tunnels because of tolls. 

Having been to Baltimore which has multiple casinos and of course Vegas, I think two or more casinos can exist here without stepping on each others' toes. But I think the waterfront location would've worked wonders for downtown Portsmouth way more than a random working class neighborhood.

It's not just a random neighborhood it's an area of the city that was undeveloped for like the last 20+ yrs. My issue is Portsmouth choose the better location, why? Because Rivers will anchor a new entertainment district in the city, Downtown will also get an added amenity with Headwaters is just a ferry ride away so it's a win win honestly. Now Portsmouth can do other things with it's waterfront like build more residential.

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9 hours ago, Norva757 said:

good thing about Norfolks casino its right next to Amtrak and light rail...if it gets busy enough there might be more interest in expanding to Vabeach (being hopeful)

It's maddening but VA Beach doesn't want it, and it has more to do with Norfolk's Demographics if you know what I mean.

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On 5/13/2022 at 10:45 PM, Norva757 said:

good thing about Norfolks casino its right next to Amtrak and light rail...if it gets busy enough there might be more interest in expanding to Vabeach (being hopeful)

I may not have been alive as long as some of you have, but im old enough to understand that nothing has ever come to fruition in talks of expanding anything from Norfolk to VA beach. And anything that does happen to do so is almost a miracle granted by God himself.   

In other words, I dont think anything will be expanding to VB from Norfolk.

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On 5/27/2022 at 7:00 AM, HRVA said:

Temporary casino approval heads to city council

Construction and hiring is expected to take six months and it sounds like they expect their license to be issued in July. Hopefully that means a late summer groundbreaking for the permanent casino with the temporary casino opening in early 2023. 

Previously they were hoping for June. Here's hoping there are no further delays.

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5 hours ago, vdogg said:

Previously they were hoping for June. Here's hoping there are no further delays.

The Executive Board of the Virginia Lottery Commission meats on a quarterly basis, and it's next scheduled meeting is July, 20. Hopefully they are working expeditiously on approving the remaining licenses.

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Anyone worried about Richmond scooping Norfolk in the casino department won't have to worry for a few years. They can't even have another referendum on it until 2023.

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The compromise prohibits the city of Richmond from holding another legally enforceable casino referendum until 2023, a nod to the argument made by Sen. Joe Morrissey, D-Richmond, that casino backers shouldn’t be allowed to immediately push the project again after voters rejected it in 2021. The budget also calls for a study of the moneymaking potential of a casino in Petersburg. 

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/06/01/after-months-of-wrangling-virginia-has-a-budget-deal-whats-in-it/

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5 hours ago, Arctic_Tern said:

Anyone worried about Richmond scooping Norfolk in the casino department won't have to worry for a few years. They can't even have another referendum on it until 2023.

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/06/01/after-months-of-wrangling-virginia-has-a-budget-deal-whats-in-it/

Thats good for us, at least till next year.

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On 3/24/2022 at 12:43 PM, HRVA said:

I’m not opposed to the casino, nor a temporary or permanent location at Harbor Park, but the referendum was very specific about the site. Could that be a roadblock to this?  Is there a workaround?

Currents - The Devil’s In The Details: A Small Change Raises Big Questions About the Temporary Casino

Currents covering a concern I expressed previously but raises a potentially bigger issue. If the Lottery Board finds that they knowingly made false/misleading statements then the entire license could be in jeopardy. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that. 

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Norfolk tables temporary casino for Harbor Park stadium after address snafu

The location in Harbor Park is nixed but they are still aiming for a temporary casino to open in March. 
 

Constructing a temporary casino in Harbor Park’s parking lot — which is the future site of the Headwaters casino and now bears the address of 200 Park Avenue — will allow for a larger gaming facility than originally planned, Thompson said. The temporary casino will open in March 2023, he said.”

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12 hours ago, HRVA said:

Norfolk tables temporary casino for Harbor Park stadium after address snafu

The location in Harbor Park is nixed but they are still aiming for a temporary casino to open in March. 
 

Constructing a temporary casino in Harbor Park’s parking lot — which is the future site of the Headwaters casino and now bears the address of 200 Park Avenue — will allow for a larger gaming facility than originally planned, Thompson said. The temporary casino will open in March 2023, he said.”

So wait, they are building an actual structure?? So will they tear it down to build the actual casino?  This is confusing...

I could not read the article so if this is explained I apologize.

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2 hours ago, SuffolkWahoo said:

So wait, they are building an actual structure?? So will they tear it down to build the actual casino?  This is confusing...

I could not read the article so if this is explained I apologize.

I agree. There really wasn’t much detail in the article. It sounds like it will be part of the permanent structure.  Hopefully more info will come out today/tomorrow with the lottery board meeting today. 

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19 minutes ago, HRVA said:

I agree. There really wasn’t much detail in the article. It sounds like it will be part of the permanent structure.  Hopefully more info will come out today/tomorrow with the lottery board meeting today. 

Is the meeting today? It sounds like they still might not get license approval for some time.

 "The Virginia Lottery Board is expected to take a vote on whether to approve the Headwaters Resort & Casino’s operating license in the coming months, needed for both the temporary and permanent casino to open.".

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At this point we might as well wait until 2024. I know they wanted the first casino in the Commonwealth but why rush to beat Portsmouth? What's one more year?

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2 hours ago, vdogg said:

Is the meeting today? It sounds like they still might not get license approval for some time.

 "The Virginia Lottery Board is expected to take a vote on whether to approve the Headwaters Resort & Casino’s operating license in the coming months, needed for both the temporary and permanent casino to open.".

What is the date of that quote?

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9 hours ago, vdogg said:

Is the meeting today? It sounds like they still might not get license approval for some time.

 "The Virginia Lottery Board is expected to take a vote on whether to approve the Headwaters Resort & Casino’s operating license in the coming months, needed for both the temporary and permanent casino to open.".

Yes. The agenda didn’t specifically name any casino like Hard Rock was in the last meeting agenda so doubt there were any more approvals. Video should be available at some point. Next meeting is in October. 

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