Greater Memphis Area - Suburbs, North Mississippi, East Arkansas

[nashville born]

21 hours ago, James Owen said:

I believe that site became a senior living facility that just opened recently. As to why the condos were never built, there was a lot of push back from neighbors who were opposed to the project because of its height (the area consists of single family homes and a few buildings no taller than 3 stories for the most part).

NIMBY action strikes again.  Interesting considering the second photo seems to show buildings of maybe 8-10 stories?  Sorry this didn't happen.  One such project can often spur another.

[TheKernel91]

On 8/23/2022 at 11:26 AM, James Owen said:

I believe that site became a senior living facility that just opened recently. As to why the condos were never built, there was a lot of push back from neighbors who were opposed to the project because of its height (the area consists of single family homes and a few buildings no taller than 3 stories for the most part).

Got it. That seemed to always been the problem out East. Even far back as the 60s where midrise apartment buildings never prospered because of nearby home owners with concerns.

With the few mid-rises that did get get off the ground, I kind of wish developers had more success implementing apartment/condo building living with suburban neighborhoods before it got fully developed in East Memphis.

Edited August 24, 2022 by TheKernel91

[TheKernel91]

5 hours ago, nashville born said:

NIMBY action strikes again.  Interesting considering the second photo seems to show buildings of maybe 8-10 stories?  Sorry this didn't happen.  One such project can often spur another.

East Memphis have some buildings that height or more in either in condos/apartments/office. There's not much space left where something like this can happen in that area unless something old is torn down. I hate it didnt happen because it reminds me of something you would see in Buckhead, ATL from that time period in the 00s

In 2019 the old Racquet club was torn down in East Memphis, right behind Clarke Tower and the Ibank building. There's 12 acres of land ripe for development. We should hear something soon if developers will erect 2-3 buildings in that height zone. I hope nearby neighbors don't try and stop it because of the potiental height. 

[The Guardian of Memphis]

On 8/23/2022 at 2:20 PM, MDC26 said:

I think the mobility center will be good.  I believe that this downtown masterplan, was a 3rd party's design and recommendations for possible uses.  The city didn't say this is what we're going to do, it was more like, this is what could be done.  I think they decided to go with the mobility center at this lot when new plans came to be, as there was increased demand for parking with the 3 Hyatt hotels.  This garage will serve the Orpheum, One Beale, Beale St, Beale St Landing, Autozone HQ's, and could even help with Brooks museum parking.  If a Hard Rock Hotel were to be built on the parking lot to its East, it could serve it as well.  Even though it doesn't look like the restaurant at the top will be built, it will be more than just a parking garage.  Most of the street level is supposed to have retail bays (13k+ sqft.)  It will also have a bike commuter area with bicycle rental, storage, and showers.  There was also mention of covered rideshare pickup locations, and there will be charging stations.  And then there's that cool set of stairs.  This is so much better than just the surface parking lot that has been there.  There's still opportunity to build residential at the MLGW lot and hotel at the parking lot to the East.  

Hope the music/noise from Beale St. doesn't affect future tenants of the MLGW site. LeBron James complained of the noise whilst staying at the Westin. Maybe he was being a little crybaby, who knows. LOL. Residential would be nice, but it would need to have retail on the first floor. Second St. needs infill desperately as well.

[MDC26]

3 hours ago, TheKernel91 said:

East Memphis have some buildings that height or more in either in condos/apartments/office. There's not much space left where something like this can happen in that area unless something old is torn down. I hate it didnt happen because it reminds me of something you would see in Buckhead, ATL from that time period in the 00s

In 2019 the old Racquet club was torn down in East Memphis, right behind Clarke Tower and the Ibank building. There's 12 acres of land ripe for development. We should hear something soon if developers will erect 2-3 buildings in that height zone. I hope nearby neighbors don't try and stop it because of the potiental height. 

Carlisle bought the racquet club property. That is probably next on the list after One Beale and Vance/Nylon Net projects. 

[TheKernel91]

20 hours ago, MDC26 said:

Carlisle bought the racquet club property. That is probably next on the list after One Beale and Vance/Nylon Net projects. 

Yea I saw that. I trust Carlisle group. They really a desire to do amazing developments for Memphis.

[MDC26]

7 minutes ago, TheKernel91 said:

Yea I saw that. I trust Carlisle group. They really a desire to do amazing developments for Memphis.

He made a comment about he may not continue to do stuff in Memphis if the Grand Hyatt thing doesn't go through.  Hopefully it goes through.  

[The Guardian of Memphis]

On 8/24/2022 at 2:34 PM, TheKernel91 said:

Got it. That seemed to always been the problem out East. Even far back as the 60s where midrise apartment buildings never prospered because of nearby home owners with concerns.

With the few mid-rises that did get get off the ground, I kind of wish developers had more success implementing apartment/condo building living with suburban neighborhoods before it got fully developed in East Memphis.

Tenacity and stubbornness, the Memphis way. LOL. I think part of this has to do with the amount of land in Shelby County compared to other metros. As was mentioned in another post, the need isn't there. The only way to build high would be on Poplar near Clark Tower and Hilton or Union and Madison in Midtown. There's still hope for a mini-Buckhead in Memphis. I want the same thing.

[TheKernel91]

5 hours ago, The Guardian of Memphis said:

Tenacity and stubbornness, the Memphis way. LOL. I think part of this has to do with the amount of land in Shelby County compared to other metros. As was mentioned in another post, the need isn't there. The only way to build high would be on Poplar near Clark Tower and Hilton or Union and Madison in Midtown. There's still hope for a mini-Buckhead in Memphis. I want the same thing.

In another universe, if Memphis kept up with ATL's growth rate going into the 70s and beyond, Poplar Ave would = Peachtree Ave. In alot of ways, Poplar Ave is that for Memphis similarity for our economy.

 

I hope I can post this link. This blog post have alot of history on Memphis. This just to reference my quote of some of apartment buildings that never got built in  E. Memphis over the years since the 50s. They listed which ones that got built and didnt with there renderings. 

http://cremedememph.blogspot.com/2019/06/memphis-tall-apts.html?m=1

Edited August 26, 2022 by TheKernel91

[DRG901]

13 hours ago, TheKernel91 said:

In another universe, if Memphis kept up with ATL's growth rate going into the 70s and beyond, Poplar Ave would = Peachtree Ave. In alot of ways, Poplar Ave is that for Memphis similarity for our economy.

 

I hope I can post this link. This blog post have alot of history on Memphis. This just to reference my quote of some of apartment buildings that never got built in  E. Memphis over the years since the 50s. They listed which ones that got built and didnt with there renderings. 

http://cremedememph.blogspot.com/2019/06/memphis-tall-apts.html?m=1

Love this blog, really informative.

[The Guardian of Memphis]

18 hours ago, TheKernel91 said:

In another universe, if Memphis kept up with ATL's growth rate going into the 70s and beyond, Poplar Ave would = Peachtree Ave. In alot of ways, Poplar Ave is that for Memphis similarity for our economy.

 

I hope I can post this link. This blog post have alot of history on Memphis. This just to reference my quote of some of apartment buildings that never got built in  E. Memphis over the years since the 50s. They listed which ones that got built and didnt with there renderings. 

http://cremedememph.blogspot.com/2019/06/memphis-tall-apts.html?m=1

I think the best snapshot for what Midtown should be now and in the future is the Citizen on McLean and Union.  Excellent example. Another one is the Memphian hotel in Overton Square.

The Creme de Memph blog is the best there is. Hands down. I could stay on there for hours.

[TheKernel91]

18 hours ago, The Guardian of Memphis said:

I think the best snapshot for what Midtown should be now and in the future is the Citizen on McLean and Union.  Excellent example. Another one is the Memphian hotel in Overton Square.

The Creme de Memph blog is the best there is. Hands down. I could stay on there for hours.

Totally agree. Those projects are unique to Memphis while being modern. Part of the reason alot of our character still remains is because development mostly done by homegrown developers who understands our fabric. 

[The Guardian of Memphis]

6 hours ago, TheKernel91 said:

Totally agree. Those projects are unique to Memphis while being modern. Part of the reason alot of our character still remains is because development mostly done by homegrown developers who understands our fabric. 

That’s a great point. Hometown developers make a difference. It isn’t just Turley and Belz anymore. They were the front runners. Glad that we have the Orgels, Carlisles, etc. doing the same thing by taking care of the built environment. I know the Carlisles love glass, but it’s good they understand the unique charm this city possesses and want it to move forward. 

[MDC26]

Since there was no South Memphis thread, I'll put this here. Nice infill project. 

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/money/business/development/2022/09/13/new-homes-in-south-memphis-the-works-subdivision/7906866001/

[MLBrumby]

From today's online Tennessean, regarding the Ford Blue Oval City complex.  Wow!  That's a huge investment!

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/business/2022/09/23/ford-in-tennessee-blue-oval-city-electric-vehicles/69511227007/  

[VSRJ]

Great-looking mixed-use development for Millington!

Astoria Square $150M mixed-use project set to get underway in Millington

https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2022/10/26/astoria-square-mixed-use-project-in-millington.html

Quote

Construction of a $150 million planned development in Millington is set to get underway on Thursday, Oct. 27.

The project, Astoria Square, is a partnership development between Astoria Development, a group founded by four principals, Kevin Conlon, Paul Frazier, Jeffrey King, and Michaelle Terhune, and A2H, a Lakeland-based engineering, architecture, and planning firm. 

Conlon passed away in May. Astoria Development is still managed by Frazier, King, and Terhune. 

The Astoria Square development is designed to act as an active neighborhood, a center of bustle not unlike a city block, serving both residents and visitors. The 80-acre site surrounds the current location of the Millington Family YMCA and sits next to the Resiliency Park development being headed by the local and state government. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by VSRJ

[DowntownUrbanite]

The City and DMC should not have constructed the Mobility Center before the Grand Hyatt went vertical.

Edited November 3, 2022 by DowntownUrbanite

[MDC26]

26 minutes ago, DowntownUrbanite said:

The City and DMC has egg on their face for building the Mobility Center before the Grand Hyatt went vertical.

I don't think the Grand Hyatt was even the reason for it.  They wanted more parking downtown regardless.  There are two other Hyatt Hotels right there, the Orpheum, Beale St, Autozone HQ, the RiverFront/Beale St Landing, FedEx Forum close by. 

[The Guardian of Memphis]

On 10/26/2022 at 4:29 PM, VSRJ said:

Great-looking mixed-use development for Millington!

Astoria Square $150M mixed-use project set to get underway in Millington

https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2022/10/26/astoria-square-mixed-use-project-in-millington.html

I hope Millington is the next up and coming suburb, especially with it being close to Downtown.

If that Second St. extension was built, it would make things even better.

Edited November 9, 2022 by The Guardian of Memphis

[TheKernel91]

I didn't know it was on pause. Good to see it moving forward. Desoto County will be a major reason for the Metro growth for years to come.

 

Cascades Development resumes construction in Olive Branch

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2808622010506/cascades-development-resumes-in-olive-branch

 

[MDC26]

Carrefour has been renamed The Standard Germantown. 
https://dailymemphian.com/section/suburbs/article/32220/memphis-shelby-carrefour-returns-to-germantown-as-the-standard

	2018	2019	2022
Site area	8.98 acres	8.98 acres	10.11 acres
Multi-family	None	320 rental units	320 rental units + 40 condos
Office	434,722 square feet	320,000 square feet	145,000 square feet
Retail	104,893 square feet	100,000 square feet	88,000 square feet
Hotel	240 rooms	174 rooms	140 rooms

[MDC26]

Ted Townsend if the Greater Memphis Chamber has said that 6 major projects have committed to the Memphis area that consist of 1,034 new jobs, and 138 jobs retained at an average salary of $110k. Also said that there is 56 potential projects in different stages of development that represents $15 billion in capital investment. 
https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2022/11/17/mlgw-greater-memphis-chamber-mega-projects.html

This is very good news. I’m sure a lot are related to Oval City, as he said many of the projects are manufacturing. 

[The Guardian of Memphis]

On 11/17/2022 at 8:41 PM, MDC26 said:

Ted Townsend if the Greater Memphis Chamber has said that 6 major projects have committed to the Memphis area that consist of 1,034 new jobs, and 138 jobs retained at an average salary of $110k. Also said that there is 56 potential projects in different stages of development that represents $15 billion in capital investment. 
https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2022/11/17/mlgw-greater-memphis-chamber-mega-projects.html

This is very good news. I’m sure a lot are related to Oval City, as he said many of the projects are manufacturing. 

Memphis is stagnant. LOL.

[VSRJ]

On 11/19/2022 at 3:56 PM, The Guardian of Memphis said:

Memphis is stagnant. LOL.

No response from you-know-who. The silence is deafening.  

[MDC26]

A new state law proposed in Mississippi would allow casinos to be built on dry land, instead of restricting them to over water, in flood prone areas.  This would allow casinos to be built closer to the highway or the state line in Tunica County.  Also said existing casinos would be given dibs for 3-5 years, if they wanted to move to a new location, before new casinos could move in.  https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/local/proposal-would-move-tunica-county-casinos-flood-areas-boost-local-economy/VKSSJQEE5ZFJZATE5ETONVIARQ/

If this passes, it is tough to predict what will happen.  If an existing casino wants to move, the value of the current facility/property plummets, because why would someone want to buy an old casino in a flood zone, when casinos could now be located in new, better located areas.  But, if they allow new ones to come in that are built closer to the state line, it would probably be the death knell for all but maybe Gold Strike and the Horseshoe.