Modera Creative Village (CV Parcel U) | 10-story residential (Proposed)

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From Tuesday 

[dcluley98]

This is only 8-stories now, not 10.  Since nobody posted the actual final rendering yet, here it is off the Mill Creek and Architect website: 

 

[smileguy]

3 hours ago, W7edwin said:

From Tuesday 

 

No real "skyline" to speak of, but I like the texture of the North Quarter buildings in the background from this angle -- they'll be all covered up!

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5 hours ago, dcluley98 said:

This is only 8-stories now, not 10.  Since nobody posted the actual final rendering yet, here it is off the Mill Creek and Architect website: 

 

Wow so much for a CREATIVE Village 

[spenser1058]

24 minutes ago, W7edwin said:

Wow so much for a CREATIVE Village 

It ain’t much of a Village, either. That still leaves the Holy Roman Empire one up on it...

[Jerry95]

On 10/1/2020 at 10:06 AM, dcluley98 said:

This is only 8-stories now, not 10.  Since nobody posted the actual final rendering yet, here it is off the Mill Creek and Architect website: 

 

this rendering is backwards...right? I feel like it's backwards...

[uncreativeusername]

On 10/3/2020 at 7:25 PM, Jerry95 said:

this rendering is backwards...right? I feel like it's backwards...

I think you're correct - especially since it looks like the intersection at the right of the image is angled...and we know Amelia to be angled.   Although...the traffic doesn't make sense.

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[orange87]

It's funny how the original renderings of Creative Village showed multiple 50 story towers and a giant TV screen over the lake.

[spenser1058]

23 minutes ago, orange87 said:

It's funny how the original renderings of Creative Village showed multiple 50 story towers and a giant TV screen over the lake.

The further Craig got from Phil the less Creative the Village got?

[orlandouprise]

Jeezus, can these two kiss and make up. He needs Phil Rampy badly.  Craig is cardboard bland.

[spenser1058]

2 hours ago, orlandouprise said:

Jeezus, can these two kiss and make up. He needs Phil Rampy badly.  Craig is cardboard bland.

Apparently not. Craig just got married so bland may be in the cards.

http://www.ustlerwedding.com/us/charlotte-manley-and-craig-ustler-apr-2021/updates

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[jack]

On 10/5/2020 at 8:40 PM, spenser1058 said:

The further Craig got from Phil the less Creative the Village got?

Phil was gone by then. Besides, they were doing condos back in the day. You can do nicer stuff. 

On 10/5/2020 at 8:16 PM, orange87 said:

It's funny how the original renderings of Creative Village showed multiple 50 story towers and a giant TV screen over the lake.

That was a city led effort with input from the community. We all had big dreams back in the day but I was skeptical.

I'll admit, I thought it would still be a vacant lot by now. When I received the rfp for private development, I threw it in the trash. Getting UCF was a huge deal. Good for the city of Orlando and all of the participants. 

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[orange87]

56 minutes ago, jack said:

That was a city led effort with input from the community. We all had big dreams back in the day but I was skeptical.

I'll admit, I thought it would still be a vacant lot by now. When I receive the rep for private development, I threw it in the trash. Getting UCF was a huge deal. Good for the city of Orlando and all of the participants. 

Getting EA to move was very big too. It would have been nice if the buildings in CV were a little taller, but overall I think this has been a big success and a real game changer for DT.

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From Oct. 13

[jrs2]

On 10/14/2020 at 2:00 AM, W7edwin said:

From Oct. 13

Is this gonna be wood frame from this point up?

[jgardnerucf]

Creaky floors commence!

[spenser1058]

Personally, I’m waiting for an all wood tower like the Keebler elves would live in (it looks just like a tree!)

[IAmFloridaBorn]

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[IAmFloridaBorn]

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On 10/23/2020 at 5:56 PM, jrs2 said:

Is this gonna be wood frame from this point up?

Looks like it!!! What’s an Orlando building without popsicle sticks somewhere 

 

 

[aent]

On 10/27/2020 at 2:03 AM, W7edwin said:

Looks like it!!! What’s an Orlando building without popsicle sticks somewhere 

 

 

We actually might be in for a break from them on anything approved from here on out. The price of lumber has recently skyrocketed making it likely cheaper to go concrete with our hurricane codes. For things already permitted, its unlikely to change due to the permitting/design process but going forward I imagine we'll see a few things without wood for a little while until the price normalizes.

[ChiDev]

^^^^ that an the increasing demands for Fire combatants in the IBC are going to further push it to be competitive with prefab metal stud (at lower heights concrete/metal stud price effectiveness breaks down to your area, and which side can service the project easier, though metal stud is supposed to be cheaper).  I also think Frinfrock, despite building one of the ugliest apt buildings downtown, has really figured out their modular concrete system.  I would expect them to start deploying it across FL.

[jack]

5 minutes ago, ChiDev said:

^^^^ that an the increasing demands for Fire combatants in the IBC are going to further push it to be competitive with prefab metal stud (at lower heights concrete/metal stud price effectiveness breaks down to your area, and which side can service the project easier, though metal stud is supposed to be cheaper).  I also think Frinfrock, despite building one of the ugliest apt buildings downtown, has really figured out their modular concrete system.  I would expect them to start deploying it across FL.

But Finfrock's project is competitive vs PT. I have not seen metal stud competitive locally yet. 

18 hours ago, aent said:

We actually might be in for a break from them on anything approved from here on out. The price of lumber has recently skyrocketed making it likely cheaper to go concrete with our hurricane codes. For things already permitted, its unlikely to change due to the permitting/design process but going forward I imagine we'll see a few things without wood for a little while until the price normalizes.

The prices are stabilizing and will come down. Projects will be canceled before they shift to concrete. Affordability is already a problem. 

[ChiDev]

^^^ wholeheartedly agree with everything said.  Metal stud is not competitive locally because Floridian Concrete is so dang cheap!  My question is when will CLT & Metal stud finally break into the market?

[aent]

4 hours ago, jack said:

The prices are stabilizing and will come down. Projects will be canceled before they shift to concrete. Affordability is already a problem. 

My understanding is concrete is not drastically more expensive than wood (or rather was, now concrete is likely cheaper). I don't think its enough of an increase that projects will be cancelled over it personally. Orlando's flipped on this exact material choice in the past based on current pricing at the time.