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TDOT really needs to make Spring Street and Ellington join I-24 in one junction, and in the process widen Ellington to Briley to 6-8 lanes. I know you guys hate freeways, but they are necessary... and the ROW has already been in place for 50+ years. 

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2 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

TDOT really needs to make Spring Street and Ellington join I-24 in one junction, and in the process widen Ellington to Briley to 6-8 lanes. I know you guys hate freeways, but they are necessary... and the ROW has already been in place for 50+ years. 

I have this same thought every single morning.  It seems idiotic to me that Ellington does not directly connect with the interstate. It is such a big artery for commuters, but to get to the interstate you have to stop at a few lights on Spring Street, or cut through the James Robertson traffic to work your way into the tiny turn lane under the overpass. Its such a cluster***** during morning and evening rush hour. 

Some say working on interstates does nothing to stop congestion, but what about better planning for interstate on-ramps and off-ramps that cause horrendous back-ups?! I would much rather have city officials focus on this rather than painting all of our city busses purple.

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5 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

Very great news indeed... though all I can think when I look at those satellite images is 'god I hope they rebuild those interchanges someday.'  What a huge waste of space those are.

Thought the same thing.     Is there really a need for fly ramps and 70mph traffic in this area?       Would love to reconnect some grid and rebuild neighborhood density.

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To me the knock on interstate work is that it's just a black hole. Any improvement you make gets immediately swamped by a few more people living 30 miles out and adding to the traffic/parking problem. Traffic quickly returns to the equilibrium based on whatever is awful enough to force people to live closer in, and you're back where you started. This compares to a bus line, which can scale up by an order of magnitude more per space required, and doesn't necessitate a bunch of parking on the other end.

If they throw money at this spaghetti intersection, I can only hope they take the opportunity to try to fix the way it carves up and separates these neighborhoods. The East bank and McFerrin Park are basically completely isolated by giant interstates, with terrible pedestrian/bike connections to eachother and the rest of east nashville, not to mention downtown. I saw some interesting ideas thrown around with the River North plans. Here's hoping.

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Here's a question for you guys:  What would have happened with Nashville if...let's say...instead of 40, 65 and 24 coming through downtown, government had decided the interstates should loop around Nashville basically where 840 is (and where it was designed north of town)?  Would Nashville be the city it is today?  Would it be as large as it is?  Larger?

The reason I ask is that I know some small towns in the past always wanted the interstate close by because they felt it would help the city grow.  And...normally, it did.  But...just like Nashville, it sometimes dissected neighborhoods and made some parts of a town worse than before.

Just wonder what Nashville would be like without all of the neighborhoods cut off the way they are now.

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3 hours ago, titanhog said:

Here's a question for you guys:  What would have happened with Nashville if...let's say...instead of 40, 65 and 24 coming through downtown, government had decided the interstates should loop around Nashville basically where 840 is (and where it was designed north of town)?  Would Nashville be the city it is today?  Would it be as large as it is?  Larger?

The reason I ask is that I know some small towns in the past always wanted the interstate close by because they felt it would help the city grow.  And...normally, it did.  But...just like Nashville, it sometimes dissected neighborhoods and made some parts of a town worse than before.

Just wonder what Nashville would be like without all of the neighborhoods cut off the way they are now.

I think if they had done that with all of the cities when building the interstate system things would be much different. Many things would have changed in cities across the country, however, we would probably be looking at a lot more sprawl than we have today. We can never really know what things would have looked like as there would still have to have been major highways into the cities for the workers working in the inner city, and whos to say they would not have severed the neighborhoods at that time too.

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Seems to me, in the 21st Century, we should do our best to reconnect some of these neighborhoods when we can.  What would be nice, IMO, is if they took out the east loop (I-40 / I-24) by the stadium that cuts off E. Nashville (totally demolish it)...and then just use the western portion and cap most of it between Division and Charlotte.  That would do a lot to give us back some of the neighborhoods.  If there was a way to also do something between Germantown and N. Nashville...that would be great, too.  And...maybe caps over I-440 in some places.

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I kind of have this crazy idea that they could create almost a roundabout with the loop that goes around Nashville. I don't know if the entire thing could be capped...but if critical points could be capped...just so there is some type of connection it would help tremendously. If they could use all of the existing lanes and make them go one direction (since it's already basically a circle around downtown) it would keep the traffic flowing. I've never actually seen that done...so I'm sure there are reasons it couldn't be done. 

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4 minutes ago, Edgefield D said:

I kind of have this crazy idea that they could create almost a roundabout with the loop that goes around Nashville. I don't know if the entire thing could be capped...but if critical points could be capped...just so there is some type of connection it would help tremendously. If they could use all of the existing lanes and make them go one direction (since it's already basically a circle around downtown) it would keep the traffic flowing. I've never actually seen that done...so I'm sure there are reasons it couldn't be done. 

We looked at this previously for an MPO study (didn't make the final report). The idea came from MoDOT who studied it for Kansas City's downtown loop.

The only problem with it is the segment from Interstate 65 to Interstate 24 on the south side, no matter which way the one-way traffic flows drivers trying to connect between I-65 and I-24 have to make the eight-mile detour around north Nashville. (KC's interstate loop is half that distance and their interchanges are more evenly spaced.)

The amount of traffic making this movement was significant enough to torpedo the idea although I am not sure how much traffic patterns would change were it to be realized. Interstate 440 would be a logical detour.

In any case it would indeed improve traffic considerably, not only at the interchanges but also the surface streets connecting to ramps.

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2 minutes ago, PruneTracy said:

We looked at this previously for an MPO study (didn't make the final report). The idea came from MoDOT who studied it for Kansas City's downtown loop.

The only problem with it is the segment from Interstate 65 to Interstate 24 on the south side, no matter which way the one-way traffic flows drivers trying to connect between I-65 and I-24 have to make the eight-mile detour around north Nashville. (KC's interstate loop is half that distance and their interchanges are more evenly spaced.)

The amount of traffic making this movement was significant enough to torpedo the idea although I am not sure how much traffic patterns would change were it to be realized. Interstate 440 would be a logical detour.

In any case it would indeed improve traffic considerably, not only at the interchanges but also the surface streets connecting to ramps.

Ha! Well, I'm glad to know it wasn't completely off the wall. I can see how people would be discouraged by the 8 mile loop. I personally...would rather drive a little longer if it meant I was actually moving....so that doesn't sound all that horrible to me (I do that all the time already in today's traffic realities). 

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At this time the project has been withdrawn by the developers indefinitely from the Planning Commission meeting agenda.

This happens a lot. There are a lot of things that need to happen before this can be approved. I am sure something will have to be worked out with the section 8 housing there not to mention a traffic study and community meeting to name a few.

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33 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

River chase in Brentwood?

15 minutes ago, WebberThomas4 said:

Riverchase off of Dickerson near Spring Street

Previously known as "Skyline East" that went dormant a year or two ago. I recall seeing a public meeting announcement recently, but did not attend.

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11 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

We are already pursuing this company to see what is up. This company is part of a larger company in Austin. Riverchase is just a place holder company.

 

Den Development out of Austin is the parent. From what I am hearing they are wanting to sell to Oracle, but that may be a rumor.

https://www.crea.com/property-portfolio
 

This is the company that presented during last week’s community meeting. They have developments near the Oracle campus in Austin. 

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The way the streets are laid out here, somewhat of a cluster **** due to the presence of the expressways, a dense residential development here with some commercial could be really cool.  I don't know how good the views are from that site, but I venture pretty darn good.  If so, it would seem the views would be protected in the longterm because no new buildings are likely to go up to obstruct them.  Plus the streets there seem to be just off the beaten path, like a little urban nook.  Such a convenient location too. If designed properly, this would be a great asset to EN.  

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  • Bos2Nash changed the title to Skyline East: eleven 3 to 6 story/one 10 story residential complex; 1,150 units; internal garages; some retail; 14.4 acres; $300+ million cost
  • markhollin changed the title to Skyline East: eleven 3 to 6 story/one 10 story residential complex; 1,500 units(?); internal garages; some retail; 14.4 acres; $300+ million cost

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