Travel observations and new developments of other cities and countries

[markhollin]

Models for New York City's Two World Trade Center which will be 82 stories and 1,323' (courtesy of YIMBY New York):

[Auntie Yock]

^For something seeking to replace the other half of an iconic structure(s), that is about as subpar as it gets. It has height, but it's a rather bland and generic design that could be anywhere. It even looks far shorter than its actual height. Why not do something that's truly aspirational and soaring?

[NashRugger]

On 1/2/2022 at 8:16 AM, Auntie Yock said:

^For something seeking to replace the other half of an iconic structure(s), that is about as subpar as it gets. It has height, but it's a rather bland and generic design that could be anywhere. It even looks far shorter than its actual height. Why not do something that's truly aspirational and soaring?

The original design with the 4 diamond look on top was amazing and is such a disappointment it was dropped.

[chris holman]

Austin's future skyline 

[Brichar4]

I would love a  couple renders like this for Nashville! It. Gives such great perspective to upcoming projects. Also a little jealous of Austin but we will be there in a few years

[markhollin]

Milwaukee, WI:
 

[smeagolsfree]

 

10 hours ago, Brichar4 said:

I would love a  couple renders like this for Nashville! It. Gives such great perspective to upcoming projects. Also a little jealous of Austin but we will be there in a few years

Most of these towers will be completed by the end of this year, I think there are others in the pipeline now that are not on here. I just do not have time to get proficient in Photoshop. Maybe someone on here can get really good and do something like that.

The big difference between Austin and Nashville is a matter of density. Austin's downtown density is still so much better than Nashville's. Nashville is still dealing with numerous pockets of high-rise clusters that still have to grow together. We sort of have a bad case of the Atlanta syndrome with a spread-out skyline, but it will do a better job of growing together than Atlanta's IMO.

One thing that works against Nashville is the divide of lower Broadway. We will not have high-rise structures there because of the historic nature of the area thus creating a fissure in the natural flow of our skyline.

There are a lot of similarities between Austin & Nashville, but the one thing Austin does not have is an Interstate severing the flow of their mass like we do between our downtown and midtown. Nor do they have a RR Gulch cutting thru the center of the downtown either, however Nashville is making some of those factors work for us.

[chris holman]

This Art Deco  Tower "Rose Hill"  built in New York, developed by Rockefeller Group,  is something i would love to see in Nashville. Just something about the design that I like.

Eventually top out at 639 feet tall and have 123 condominiums marketed by CORE Real Estate.

Edited January 7, 2022 by chris holman

[Luvemtall]

35 minutes ago, chris holman said:

This Art Deco  Tower "Rose Hill"  built in New York, developed by Rockefeller Group,  is something i would love to see in Nashville. Just something about the design that I like.

Eventually top out at 639 feet tall and have 123 condominiums marketed by CORE Real Estate.

This is a beautiful tower! I’m very hopeful that Nashville will get a classic like this at the Tishman-Spayer site! The height and mass should be very close. Fingers crossed!

[markhollin]

Chicago's handsome 1203 N. California Ave. affordable housing, 9 stories, 64 units (courtesy of YIMBY Chicago):
 

[smeagolsfree]

More problems for San Frans Millennium Tower.

 Leaning San Francisco skyscraper is tilting 3 inches per year as engineers rush to implement fix (msn.com)

 

The 58-story, 645-foot tall tower — opened to residents in 2009 — is now tilting 26 inches north and west at Fremont and Mission Streets in the heart of San Francisco’s financial district, the NBC News affiliate reported.

[Auntie Yock]

^At that rate, I wonder if they're going to have to demolish the tower outright. That may be the worst skyscraper construction fiasco in U.S. history.

[BnaBreaker]

7 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

More problems for San Frans Millennium Tower.

 Leaning San Francisco skyscraper is tilting 3 inches per year as engineers rush to implement fix (msn.com)

 

The 58-story, 645-foot tall tower — opened to residents in 2009 — is now tilting 26 inches north and west at Fremont and Mission Streets in the heart of San Francisco’s financial district, the NBC News affiliate reported.

Wow, that's scary... three inches is a lot... how long before they just admit defeat and dismantle the building?  I mean even if best case scenario happened and they were able to stop the tilt completely, it will still have the public perception of being 'the tilting tower,' so I can't see anyone ever actually wanting to inhabit it.

[markhollin]

Renderings and update on progress for Miami's Aston Martin Residences, 66 stories, 816', 391 condos (courtesy of YIMBY Florida):
 

[markhollin]

Austin: Meta/Facebook has signed a lease for 589,000 sq. ft. of space in the u.c. 66-story 6th & Guadalupe Tower.

 

[BnaBreaker]

I really want to like that 12th and Guadalupe Tower, but it seems like such a hodge podge of styles, and not in a good way.  

[MLBrumby]

11 minutes ago, BnaBreaker said:

I really want to like that 12th and Guadalupe Tower, but it seems like such a hodge podge of styles, and not in a good way.  

Agreed!  It looks like the Broadwest office tower with the BW residential tower placed on top of it with a couple of appendages on both sides. Very unfortunate!  I prefer to see more cohesive design in a building from top to bottom.  So when will this "Junky" (my word) trend in hodgepodge tower design end?  Austin definitely has height, but the mix of architecture with its newest/tallest buildings is truly disappointing.  Still a fun place, although I can't stand their version of UT (lol), and they still have the most impressive state capitol of all! 

[markhollin]

Recife, Brazil (4 million population):

[markhollin]

New York City's  Oculus Station (courtesy of abravo56):

[markhollin]

Atlanta (courtesy of Aerial Innovations Southeast):
 

[rolly]

From SSP.    A view of Austin with some of the new stuff. 

 

[KJHburg]

Was recently in Jacksonville Florida.  Their downtown's setting on the St Johns River is spectacular.  The main core of downtown does need some more work.  More residents, More office tenants but boy is the view beautiful.   Notice the Main Street bridge lifting up for a sailboat.  Their seaport is further east of downtown.  Their NFL stadium is on the edge of downtown but there is not much between it and downtown core.   I took the skyline shots except for the first one from the Riverwalk on the Southbank of downtown.  

[rolly]

Jax has a great engagement with the river. Those towers really hug up to it. 
I just moved an hour to the south of Jax and we love going up there.  That wide river is such a trip!

[BnaBreaker]

Jax is definitely an overlooked and underrated city, especially given it's proximity to the ocean and St. Augustine... give me Jax over Orlando any day!

[Auntie Yock]

8 hours ago, KJHburg said:

While the downtown is at a stunning setting along the river, the view and skyscrapers here are unchanged in a whopping 32 years(!) I stood in almost this exact same spot to get a photo back in the early '90s, and it's absolutely identical (except for the name changes on the buildings, such as Wells Fargo, formerly Independent Life). Wells Fargo was once the tallest building in all of Florida from 1973 until 1981, exceeded by a skyscraper in Tampa.