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I received an email from NCDP that Mike Pence is in town campaigning for Thom Tillis. So my assumption, is that they're having an event at Charlotte Pipe.  They even have Wilkinson to 277 blocked off.

Eating lunch in the Stanly County town of Locust I was talking to someone from Oakboro. I asked him about Charlotte Pipe and Foundry's move there.  He said they have quietly bought over 500 acres near

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14 minutes ago, nicholas said:

Ideally, US 74 should probably just be rerouted onto the southern part of I-485, and the existing route (Wilkinson, John Belk, Independence) could be signed as BUS 74.

NCDOT is already thinking this way, their “strategic transportation corridor” for US 74 (all the way from I-26 to Wilmington) considers the portion of the corridor that goes through the Charlotte metro as best routed along 85 in Gaston County to 485 to the Monroe Bypass. So I wouldn’t be surprised to eventually see Wilkinson and Independence signed as 74 Bus or 74 Alt.  

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50 minutes ago, nicholas said:

Perhaps, but I was mainly trying to think up a way to possibly start removing I-277.  Closing the ramps to/from Freedom Dr might make us feel like we did something, but overall those ramps are only a fraction of a fraction of the problem.

Ideally, US 74 should probably just be rerouted onto the southern part of I-485, and the existing route (Wilkinson, John Belk, Independence) could be signed as BUS 74.

We have to change our mindset from "what can we do to make driving more tolerable?" to "what can we do to get people out of their cars?"  Limited access freeways were SUPPOSED to be for travel between cities, but due mainly to suburban growth, interstates and limited-access freeways became regular commuting routes for more and more people.  This lead to the existing higher-capacity roads becoming congested at peak travel times, so they were upgraded into limited-access freeways (looking at you, Independence Blvd) to help shuttle people from the suburbs into the central business district.  Now, in a phenomenon that should be surprising to no one, these same roads are more congested than ever, even though there are no stop lights or intersections to deal with.  Realistically, you can't out-build traffic, but almost no one has the balls to try anything different.  Winston-Salem had its downtown limited-access freeway closed for TWO FREAKING YEARS, and yet from what I have heard and witnessed, once people adjusted to there not being a freeway through downtown, it was as if BUS 40 never even existed in the first place.  Why exactly did we instead spend $100MM rebuilding it???

I imagine some users know by now that I am a car enthusiast, and I love to drive.  However, it would be nice to be able to bike/walk to work, the grocery store, etc at will, but unfortunately this has never been an option for me because I grew up in suburban subdivisions located too far away from anything to be able to do this.  Also, as much as I love driving, I can tell by experience and observation that many other drivers do not share this same joy, and drive mainly because cars are what our lives have revolved around for nearly a century now.  Due to not enjoying driving, they are not as good at it, and make things worse for the rest of us.

Really a shame the Red Line to North Meck suburbs died. Though I realize that's not the city or county's fault. In an ideal world, there'd be commuter trains to Mooresville, Gastonia, Concord/Kannapolis and down to Rock Hill. Coming from the NYC area my only complaint about Charlotte is the lack of commuter transport, but that's a very small complaint compared to the immeasurable ways the Charlotte area is better than the NYC area. Also, to be fair, the commuter rail in NJ was a total disaster, overcrowded, understaffed and constantly broken. Still, commuter rail spidering out to those major suburbs and ending all at Gateway would be great as long as they can do it without putting people out of their homes to build it. 

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2 hours ago, SMSRedux said:

Anyone notice the new area massing shown during this meeting showing the Stadium and surrounding potential re-development concept of this area? 

 

 

I did, I'm surprised they went with an open stadium massing. 

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17 hours ago, Tyree Ricardo said:

I did, I'm surprised they went with an open stadium massing. 

This would be a good screenshot to capture and add in any new development massing and missing development...hint...hint...hint

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32 minutes ago, Rufus said:

This would be a good screenshot to capture and add in any new development massing and missing development...hint...hint...hint

I dunno I don't like how they massed out the future, it doesn't look realistic.

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Screengrab so it's easier to view. I like it as an ideal to strive towards. Nice density (6-20 stories), looks walkable, not a ton of parking garages. Also interesting is the more specific Silver Line routing - going over I-77 & down Bryant St w/ some sharp turns.
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I’d like it if the stadium was incorporated into the neighborhood/surrounding buildings more like the Real Madrid inspiration in the YouTube. This reminds me of the Gulch and Mercedes Benz in Atlanta which misses the mark, in my opinion.


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