Lake Ave. & Pine St. | 33-Story Mixed-Use [Proposed]

[dcluley98]

Glad to see this project come back with new update. I think I like the old rendering better also, but this one looks good too. 

Much better design than a lot of the beige-box and visor dreck we have seen  usually. 

I hope this has legs! 

[Musikprince]

1 hour ago, AndyPok1 said:

I think I prefer the older rendering but its interesting if a not bad way

The older rendering was just a tall box, at least this has much more character!

[prahaboheme]

I think I prefer the 50s modernism elements of the original rendering and the repetitive brise soliel over the podium garage ;)

[Musikprince]

8 minutes ago, prahaboheme said:

I think I prefer the 50s modernism elements of the original rendering and the repetitive brise soliel over the podium garage ;)

The old version actually looks like the newly proposed Monarc. Im glad they changed the rendering!

[uncreativeusername]

10 minutes ago, prahaboheme said:

I think I prefer the 50s modernism elements of the original rendering and the repetitive brise soliel over the podium garage ;)

I 110% prefer the original as well, and for the same reasons.  

BUT...this is the lot directly behind the Waverly.  This feels like a nice contextual nod to the neighborhood and I appreciate it.  A lot.

[prahaboheme]

2 minutes ago, uncreativeusername said:

I 110% prefer the original as well, and for the same reasons.  

BUT...this is the lot directly behind the Waverly.  This feels like a nice contextual nod to the neighborhood and I appreciate it.  A lot.

The same thought crossed my mind. My only concern is that the Waverly curves and this one may look a bit overbearing together. Like it though!

[uncreativeusername]

22 minutes ago, prahaboheme said:

The same thought crossed my mind. My only concern is that the Waverly curves and this one may look a bit overbearing together. Like it though!

It creates an interestinc arc crossing Pine. 

The original was just as contextual to Citi, but given how unique the Waverly feels in the neighborhood, I think it can better afford the company.  

Also, does this look like significantly more sq ft? There appears to be a third arm of the building, a rounded L shape?  I'm honestly not quite sure what I'm seeing.

 

Edited July 17, 2020 by uncreativeusername

[popsiclebrandon]

Wait is this being laid out to sort of mirror the Waverly? Mght be looking at that wrong but looks S-shaped and I think thats much better.

[JFW657]

I like the way it looks up close, but with the L shape adding visual mass and and the wavy walls detracting from a sleek upward looking appearance, I think this design will look a bit chunky from a distance.  

Kind of a wavy version of 55 West without the Conquistador hat. 

[Jernigan]

Is it still planned to be a Radisson?

[jgardnerucf]

Still waiting for a...

[IAmFloridaBorn]

9 hours ago, DreS0803 said:

Updated rendering. Project will go to the MPB for review in September. Plans call for 129 branded residences, a combination of 102 condominiums and 27 penthouse units spread among the 14 upper floors. The building would have its own dog park. Also, a 228-key luxury convention hotel with more than 60,000 square feet of indoor and outdoor meeting space on three floors and a Sky Club on the 33rd floor with a pool and outdoor dining.

Unlike everyone else, I love this. Downtown Orlando is already boxy.i appreciate the design changes. They are building quite a bit of meeting space too.

 

Remind me of the hospital on Orange lol

[orlandouprise]

9 hours ago, JFW657 said:

I like the way it looks up close, but with the L shape adding visual mass and and the wavy walls detracting from a sleek upward looking appearance, I think this design will look a bit chunky from a distance.  

Kind of a wavy version of 55 West without the Conquistador hat. 

100% this

I liked the thinner slender design before. This is another fat chunky building that I fear will morph with the waverly in front to form one gigantic fat blob.

looks a little too Miami Beach-ish for me. The other design seemed more refined...

[bqknight]

It looks like the Aventura Hotel at Universal. Any chance this actually happens? Seems...like a lot for the area. 

[Musikprince]

2 hours ago, orlandouprise said:

100% this

I liked the thinner slender design before. This is another fat chunky building that I fear will morph with the waverly in front to form one gigantic fat blob.

looks a little too Miami Beach-ish for me. The other design seemed more refined...

I think the 33 stories should alleviate the chunky feel, unlike CSP1 where it's basically just 24 stories!

[JFW657]

1 minute ago, Musikprince said:

I think the 33 stories should alleviate the chunky feel, unlike CSP1 where it's basically just 24 stories!

You mean like the non-chunky looking 32 story 55 W?  

 

[Musikprince]

1 minute ago, JFW657 said:

You mean like the non-chunky looking 32 story 55 W?  

 

Yeah true, I'll give you that lol however it's not so much the structure as it is that stupid hat that tops the building off!

[HankStrong]

15 hours ago, uncreativeusername said:

I 110% prefer the original as well, and for the same reasons.  

BUT...this is the lot directly behind the Waverly.  This feels like a nice contextual nod to the neighborhood and I appreciate it.  A lot.

I don't think it's nice to steal 10% from someone else.  

[AndyPok1]

Yeah, I was wondering how it would compliment Waverly.  Long story short, if it actually happens, worse case scenario its an interesting addition that you can justify the design choices even if they aren't your particular cup of tea.

[uncreativeusername]

13 minutes ago, AndyPok1 said:

Yeah, I was wondering how it would compliment Waverly.  Long story short, if it actually happens, worse case scenario its an interesting addition that you can justify the design choices even if they aren't your particular cup of tea.

Exactly. 

I have always hated the Waverly, but I feel like this big sibling would go a long ways toward making the Waverly feel less out of place.

 

9 hours ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

Remind me of the hospital on Orange lol

Winnie Palmer is one of my favorite buildings in Orlando. I definitely don't object to non-boxy buildings out of principal.

 

53 minutes ago, HankStrong said:

I don't think it's nice to steal 10% from someone else.  

I guess I was just hungry.

[nite owℓ]

5 minutes ago, uncreativeusername said:

I have always hated the Waverly, but I feel like this big sibling would go a long ways toward making the Waverly feel less out of place.

 

Interesting... what don't you like about The Waverly? The colors or the architecture?

Just curious, because The Waverly is (and has always been) one of my favorite buildings downtown with some of the best views of Lake Eola and skyline IMO.

[dcluley98]

I don't like the Waverly's colors. It looks like it should be on Miami Beach with those colors, not Lake Eola. 

[uncreativeusername]

42 minutes ago, nite owℓ said:

Interesting... what don't you like about The Waverly? The colors or the architecture?

I have asked myself the same question many times.

I think it's both.  A few years ago I replaced all the pink with white in Photoshop out of curiosity (I left the teal accents), and I definitely hated it less. (No idea where the file is, or I'd share.) 

At the same time, I have no objection to the color scheme of the Swan/Dolphin, so context is everything.  Now that I think about it deeper, I think my subconscious has always sort of seen the Waverly as sub-par Michael Graves.  The former strikes me as graceful, the latter as busy.  

50 minutes ago, nite owℓ said:

Just curious, because The Waverly is (and has always been) one of my favorite buildings downtown with some of the best views of Lake Eola and skyline IMO.

I certainly can't disagree on great views - especially since the Waverly would be notably absent in views from the Waverly.  Hahaha. 

[prahaboheme]

Is this really intended to be a 5-star hotel? Can downtown Orlando support one?

Edit: I should clarify that I just read that in BizJournals.

Edited July 17, 2020 by prahaboheme

[orlandouprise]

I think if any area of DT can, it would be there or by DPAC. Interesting gamble. The convention space would be what saves it I guess