Lake Ave. & Pine St. | 33-Story Mixed-Use [Proposed]

[prahaboheme]

17 hours ago, orlandouprise said:

I think if any area of DT can, it would be there or by DPAC. Interesting gamble. The convention space would be what saves it I guess

It’s an odd space for convention though. I’m perplexed by the entire proposal.

[Jernigan]

This project, now “Pine and Lake Mixed Use Tower,” goes to ARB for courtesy review tomorrow.

[spenser1058]

16 minutes ago, Jernigan said:

This project, now “Pine and Lake Mixed Use Tower,” goes to ARB for courtesy review tomorrow.

Such a lovely new name.

[orange87]

26 minutes ago, Jernigan said:

“Pine and Lake Mixed Use Tower”

Descriptive and straight to the point.

[bic]

Master Plan for a 33-story mixed-use building (338 feet tall) comprised of 129 multi-family units, 228 key hotel with 527,200 sq. ft. of commercial and convention center space, and a 741-space parking garage.

[codypet]

Yeah right.  No way we get something that interesting.

I guess its no longer L shaped to save those buildings on Church too huh?

Edited September 12, 2020 by codypet

[gibby]

It looks like they've completely hidden the parking garage on all three street sides unless I'm missing something.  I don't even see the parking garage entrance.  Maybe they're putting one or two levels underground, which would be awesome.

[JFW657]

If it goes up, some folks in Citi Tower are going to lose their expensive, high-priced views of the Orange Avenue skyline. 

[elefants]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

If it goes up, some folks in Citi Tower are going to lose their expensive, high-priced views of the Orange Avenue skyline. 

If they really miss it they can just move across the street when their lease is up. 

[JFW657]

14 minutes ago, elefants said:

If they really miss it they can just move across the street when their lease is up. 

Unless they own their unit, which they'd then have to sell, probably at a loss because of the now obstructed view.

Not that I'm crying any tears of pity for them.

Just sayin....

[dcluley98]

This looks really good. Game-changer for South Eola, especially if it is a high-end Raddison hotel. 

[bqknight]

There's no way this or Monarch actually happen, correct? South Eola is in my biased opinion, the best place to live in Downtown. But these seem...lofty for Orlando.

7 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Unless they own their unit, which they'd then have to sell, probably at a loss because of the now obstructed view.

Not that I'm crying any tears of pity for them.

Just sayin....

CitiTower is a rental only building as far as I know. 

[elefants]

42 minutes ago, bqknight said:

There's no way this or Monarch actually happen, correct? South Eola is in my biased opinion, the best place to live in Downtown. But these seem...lofty for Orlando.

All the big projects seem slightly less likely right now.  If these two did get built, I'd imagine some retail might actually show up

42 minutes ago, bqknight said:

CitiTower is a rental only building as far as I know. 

That was my understanding.

[jgardnerucf]

Oh thank heaven for Monarch 7-11.

[spenser1058]

As much as half a million sf of meeting space? That seems odd for a residential neighborhood. Given the limited ingress and egress if the facility reached its potential, how do you get all those people in and out?

Embassy Suites has meeting space but only about ~13,000sf worth. I don’t believe the old Egyptian Room at the Cherry Plaza (where Walt announced WDW) was anything close to the size proposed.

I can’t wait for the residents of South Eola to weigh in on this, especially the retirees. Of course, given the economic climate at the moment, I suspect it’s just whistling past the graveyard (whenever someone proposes a downtown hotel, they’re usually just throwing something out to see what sticks given the relatively weak occupancy rate of downtown hotels in the Disney era).

Great project, wrong location, imho.

Edited September 13, 2020 by spenser1058

[prahaboheme]

5 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

As much as half a million sf of meeting space? That seems odd for a residential neighborhood. Given the limited ingress and egress if the facility reached its potential, how do you get all those people in and out?

Embassy Suites has meeting space but only about ~13,000sf worth. I don’t believe the old Egyptian Room at the Cherry Plaza (where Walt announced WDW) was anything close to the size proposed.

I can’t wait for the residents of South Eola to weigh in on this, especially the retirees. Of course, given the economic climate at the moment, I suspect it’s just whistling past the graveyard (whenever someone proposes a downtown hotel, they’re usually just throwing something out to see what sticks given the relatively weak occupancy rate of downtown hotels in the Disney era).

Great project, wrong location, imho.

Agreed why not a project with this ambition along Rosalind or Orange?

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, prahaboheme said:

Agreed why not a project with this ambition along Rosalind or Orange?

Because that is the parcel the private developers purchased.

Had they purchased a parcel on Rosalind or Orange, assuming an adequate one was available, they'd be proposing it to be built there.

You do understand how this private development stuff works, right? 

[ChiDev]

12 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Because that is the parcel the private developers purchased.

Had they purchased a parcel on Rosalind or Orange, assuming an adequate one was available, they'd be proposing it to be built there.

You do understand how this private development stuff works, right? 

shhhhh JFW... Let them believe we are evil overlords who refuse to produce public park spaces and anvil shaped glass towers sheerly out of spite.

[dcluley98]

You kill all the trees too! 

[spenser1058]

1 hour ago, dcluley98 said:

You kill all the trees too! 

We don’t need trees - they get in the way of profits. And profits are all that matter. Greed is good!

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, ChiDev said:

shhhhh JFW... Let them believe we are evil overlords who refuse to produce public park spaces and anvil shaped glass towers sheerly out of spite.

Sometimes I think some people actually believe the city builds high rises and decides where they go. 

[prahaboheme]

6 hours ago, ChiDev said:

shhhhh JFW... Let them believe we are evil overlords who refuse to produce public park spaces and anvil shaped glass towers sheerly out of spite.

Who is “them” and who is “we?”

And how does any of this relate to having a desire for developments of equal ambition in the CBD?

Edited September 14, 2020 by prahaboheme

[smonteserin]

The MPB approved this project as well, according to Growthspotter.

from the article: " The developers, who also completed CitiTower across the street, are pledging to bring the first 5-star convention center hotel to Orlando’s Central Business District."


The article also says that the have 3 hotels competing for the flag. The hotel will have a convention center, and will also feature a sky club on 33rd floor with indoor/outdoor dining and pool, as well as 129 branded residences.

https://www.growthspotter.com/news/downtown-orlando-developments/gs-news-mpb-monarch-20200915-ckkzltx2erd2rdcihpv55desu4-story.html

[bqknight]

Hmmm, it's probably been mentioned before and I missed it, but interesting this was done by the same people who did CitiTower. I would consider that building successful. Seems to be pretty full, there's retail that seems relatively successful on the bottom floor. Maybe, just maybe this will happen. 

[smileguy]

Orlando Museum of Art has announced a second location.

As Orlando Museum of Art approaches its centennial celebration, it will achieve a long-desired wish to expand from its building in Loch Haven Park. New museum director Aaron De Groft announced Monday afternoon that the museum would add a state-of-the-art second location — not in Lake Nona, as previously considered, but in the heart of downtown.

The new museum space would feature interactive educational facilities, offices, visitor services and 30,000 square feet of additional exhibition space, which would be used for new collections and some of the announced big-name exhibitions.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/arts-and-theater/os-et-orlando-museum-of-art-downtown-expansion-20210510-qdus26y3mrfohk6kgccjpziwl4-story.html?fbclid=IwAR2PHJdA-2HsHUfKrQQpkbjmFUZ7i1p80hA2DXEjVEz8-hzeK37HIp3IDtk