Circle South, 30 story/418'/535,000 sq. ft. office tower; 34 story/330'/500 residential tower; 15,000 sq. ft. of retail, 2.6 acres at Lafayette and 8th Ave. South

[markhollin 93112]

More details and at least one rendering will hopefully be coming later today.

This screen shot from Smeagolfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[Craiger 1274]

The circle is going to have such a different, more urban, feel to it after this and whatever happens at One KVB.

[downtownresident 4529]

The sheer square footage of this dictates some serious height or multiple towers. Excited to see what this one looks like. 

[titanhog 15089]

4 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

The sheer square footage of this dictates some serious height or multiple towers. Excited to see what this one looks like. 

I can't imagine less than 2 towers...and maybe 3?

[downtownresident 4529]

1 minute ago, titanhog said:

I can't imagine less than 2 towers...and maybe 3?

Looking at the sites shape, I’d think that office would front 8th in the section of the lot that is rectangular to keep floor plates rectangular, and then a residential tower would be in the irregular shaped portion of the lot fronting the roundabout/Lafayette. Interested to see how this is laid out! 

[titanhog 15089]

5 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

Looking at the sites shape, I’d think that office would front 8th in the section of the lot that is rectangular to keep floor plates rectangular, and then a residential tower would be in the irregular shaped portion of the lot fronting the roundabout/Lafayette. Interested to see how this is laid out! 

What's the largest building downtown...sq footage-wise?  Wondering what a 1,000,000 sq ft office tower would look like.

Edited December 6, 2019 by titanhog

[smeagolsfree 18413]

Ok, Mark closed the other thread and I will let you guys know here. There will be more information coming hopefully later today.

I think 1 Million sq. ft. would be the largest office building in Nashville behind the AT&T building which is 765 K gross leasable space., however the 40 story planned at Nashville Yards is also 1 million.

Remember they have to fill this and right now I doubt they have a tenant. My guess is that Lincoln will build a residential building on the Round about with the office portion going south on 8th. 

So I think there will be two buildings connected by a pedestal parking structure. Remember this is a guess and we may know a lot more this afternoon.

[satalac 1512]

One World Trade Center is 3.5 million sq ft. So imagine something smaller, about 2.5 million sq ft smaller.

 

Seriously though, this sounds BIG. Hopefully all these towers will permanently shade Stix (Sticks? Styx? Sticcs?)

[OnePointEast 766]

4 minutes ago, satalac said:

One World Trade Center is 3.5 million sq ft. So imagine something smaller, about 2.5 million sq ft smaller.

...

Steinway Tower in New York City is less than 320,000 sq. ft., so there's still hope for a 1,000 footer here.

 

Though, one is residential and the other is office.

Edited December 6, 2019 by OnePointEast
Office vs residential

[jkc2j 120]

Sounds like a massive project. Wonder what company could potentially need 1 million sq ft? Possibly Oracle? I know River North was one of the possible locations.

"As the Post recently reported, Oracle is scouting for about 800,000 square feet of office space located within Nashville’s core, according to sources."

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/technology/article/21050296/oracle-eyes-cities-in-addition-to-nashville

Edited December 6, 2019 by jkc2j

[PianoKing03 276]

Wooow! This is incredibly exciting! Mark, I almost wish you hadn’t said the rendering was coming today; now I’m going to be on UP every 10 seconds. 

[LA_TN 6501]

4 hours ago, Craiger said:

The circle is going to have such a different, more urban, feel to it after this and whatever happens at One KVB.

One KVB is dead and the group has not made a decision regarding the future. That is the last I heard, a few months ago 

[PaulChinetti 5988]

1 million square feet is hard to visualize, how many sq ft is the convention center?

[LA_TN 6501]

6 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

1 million square feet is hard to visualize, how many sq ft is the convention center?

The Music Center has a total of 2.1 million sq ft of space. The main exhibit hall is 350,000 sq ft

As previously noted, the Nashville Yards proposed 40 story office tower would be 1 million sq ft

[wmaddbb2018 1383]

18 minutes ago, LA_TN said:

The Music Center has a total of 2.1 million sq ft of space. The main exhibit hall is 350,000 sq ft

As previously noted, the Nashville Yards proposed 40 story office tower would be 1 million sq ft

It’s a total of 250 Tootsies   

[satalac 1512]

8 minutes ago, wreynol4 said:

It’s a total of 250 Tootsies   

Is that counting rooftop area or OG Tootsies?

[Nash_12South 1372]

There are some unknowns here. Is the 1 million square feet rentable (inflated) or usable/gross? Does it include the parking garage? (I've seen that happen).

[CityHeart 431]

37 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

1 million square feet is hard to visualize, how many sq ft is the convention center?

What I find harder to visualize is a tenant that would need that amount of space coming out of the blue ( Oracle not included) The reduction in height to One22One, Gulch Union built on spec, One City, Broadwest,River North, Capitol View, Nashville Yards etc..  Just makes me wonder.  Can't wait to here more about this project. 

[downtownresident 4529]

1 minute ago, CityHeart said:

What I find harder to visualize is a tenant that would need that amount of space coming out of the blue ( Oracle not included) The reduction in height to One22One, Gulch Union built on spec, One City, Broadwest,River North, Capitol View, Nashville Yards etc..  Just makes me wonder.  Can't wait to here more about this project. 

Yup! This group just bought the land on 11/11/19, and then filed for the sewer/water permits on the 15th. I’m anxious to see what this is all about. 

[smeagolsfree 18413]

They don't own all of the land. J David Byerly still owns several parcels down to Drexel and I think he may still be involved in the project.

When this goes live, someone please post it here. NBJ will likely have too. There may be a rendering floating around as well.

[smeagolsfree 18413]

Its live on the Post but there is nothing new. Everything got pushed forward once it was posted here and all of the parties involved stopped talking after that. We may have been able to have more if we could have waited but alas it was not to be.

I do know there is a rendering that will probably be released next week.

[markhollin 93112]

Here is the link to the article Smeags mentioned that is behind the paywall at the Nashville Post. The only fresh info is this:

Lincoln will still need to acquire three other parcels, with the main property needed at 514 8th Ave. South.  The document also lists Colliers International as having future involvement (likely leasing the office space).

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21104411/massive-mixeduse-project-eyed-for-sobro

[UTgrad09 4422]

Just throwing in some numbers to get a rough idea about the potential scale of this project...

Nearby 805 Lea is 29 stories with 375 units. At the same proportions, 500 units would take you up to 38-39 stories.

Peabody Plaza is 9 stories and 230,000 sq ft (25,555 sq ft per floor) and Bridgestone is, IIRC, 17 stories of actual office with 514,000 sq ft (30,235 per floor)...

So that would put the office building at maybe 33-39 floors, not considering any kind of parking pedestal.

It could conceivably be two 40ish story towers, depending on how they plan to use the lot. If they buy more land and squat it out a bit, they'll still be tall, but maybe more in the lower 30s range.

[markhollin 93112]

Here are the notes and diagram that downtownresident posted on another thread:

 

[nashvylle 6700]

21 minutes ago, UTgrad09 said:

Just throwing in some numbers to get a rough idea about the potential scale of this project...

Nearby 805 Lea is 29 stories with 375 units. At the same proportions, 500 units would take you up to 38-39 stories.

Peabody Plaza is 9 stories and 230,000 sq ft (25,555 sq ft per floor) and Bridgestone is, IIRC, 17 stories of actual office with 514,000 sq ft (30,235 per floor)...

So that would put the office building at maybe 33-39 floors, not considering any kind of parking pedestal.

It could conceivably be two 40ish story towers, depending on how they plan to use the lot. If they buy more land and squat it out a bit, they'll still be tall, but maybe more in the lower 30s range.

Two 40 story towers here, plus a potential 40 story tower in Nashville Yards, and Four Seasons in SoBro.... Giddy Up.