Circle South, 30 story/443'/535,000 sq. ft. office tower; 19 story/239'/261 residential tower; 2.6 acres at Lafayette and 8th Ave. South

[nashville born]

34 minutes ago, markhollin said:

Stormwater and grading permit has been applied for. 

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/notes-residential-project-seemingly-slated-for-state-owned-site/article_46cd934c-b361-11eb-bf2a-93785845138e.html

Can't wait for this one to rise.  It would give us our second really atypical skyscraper!!!!  And it's location  will help it stand out even more!  At least if and until 800 Lea and the Ritz rise.  I needed this permit news today after the Swerdling news yesterday.

[Bos2Nash]

I'm gonna bump this asking about the article regarding the residential building at the northeast corner of Drexel and 8th Ave South. I don't have access to the paywall (on my financial wish list), but is this indeed part of this development?

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/images-released-of-proposed-sobro-residential-tower/article_3cc36650-cab4-11eb-91a4-9fdf9dd5ab72.html

[MLBrumby]

Stupid question (but I'm having one of those days): Is this a project that has already been announced?  Sorry  B2N... I see you're asking the same.

Edited June 11, 2021 by MLBrumby

[downtownresident]

It is, here is the Metro document: 

http://maps.nashville.gov/MPC/2021DTC-016-001_plan.pdf

I was talking with Ron this morning, they requested Water/Sewer Capacity for 1 million sq ft of office and 500+ residential units. They have the option to buy the rest of the block, so I could see another 400’ office building fronting Lafayette with a smaller residential building at Drexel/7th on the back side of the lot. 
 

I like that the garage is lined on all faces except for the alleyways, and the realignment of Drexel Street. 

[nashvylle]

isn't this a pretty image. 

Now is this going to get rejected and delayed because they are asking for more than... 11 stories?

[MLBrumby]

Woah!  And that drawing doesn't even show Giarratana's and the Ritz twins!  That intersection will be reminiscent of the 3 blocks in Denver where the "cash register" tower and others meet at angles. 

[downtownresident]

1 minute ago, MLBrumby said:

Woah!  And that drawing doesn't even show Giarratana's and the Ritz twins!  That intersection will be reminiscent of the 3 blocks in Denver where the "cash register" tower and others meet at angles. 

It shows the Ritz twins, it used the one KVB design as a placeholder it seems. Interestingly pegs the height at 567’. 

[smeagolsfree]

It will pass.

[downtownresident]

2 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

It will pass.

I tend to agree, pretty much every non-historic parcel on that side of 8th has already been been granted more height, or has more height by right than what is being asked for. 

Edited June 11, 2021 by downtownresident

[smeagolsfree]

Everything else is passing at that height in this general vicinity and they have the bonus height to do it, so its no big deal.

[markhollin]

A few more details fro those unable to access the Post article or the PDF:

- 19 stories (220’) with 261units, and a 336 capacity garage (5 levels above grade, and 3 levels below).

- Dwell Design Studio is the architect; Ragan-Smith is handling engineering/land planning; Hawkins Partners is overseeing landscape architecture. 

- Mirasol Capital is an equity partner along with developer Lincoln Properties.

Here are plenty of renderings and diagrams of the proposed Circle South Residential Tower:

[nashville born]

So does this mean Circle South will eventually start?  Asking for a friend.  

Edited June 11, 2021 by nashville born

[smeagolsfree]

1 hour ago, nashville born said:

So does this mean Circle South will eventually start?  Asking for a friend.  

I think the Office tower is closer than you think. 

[Bos2Nash]

Love the wrapping of the garage! We would have to go looking for it to realize it was above ground. Not pleased with the amount of stucco, but with the cost of construction and what they spent on the land, this was an easy VE for the developer. Also really like the alignment of Drexel with Cannery Row. This should help with some traffic concerns. I wonder how much of a hassle another Hawk Signal would be to install (Somera Road is doing one just south of the CSX tracks) as there is alot of pedestrian traffic here.

While I know we can't have affordable housing mandates, I wish we would see more 3-bedroom units in these buildings around the city. I know developers don't like them because they are harder to rent, but if we want to work with the "supply model" having more 3-bedrooms will help the affordable crisis. I wonder how much the state would balk at the Downtown Code having a section about residential buildings need 10% (easy round number, no significance to it) 3-bedroom units. It would certainly drive down the number of 1 and 2 bedroom units, but it would certainly add a lot more "family" units to these buildings.

[nashvylle]

6 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

While I know we can't have affordable housing mandates, I wish we would see more 3-bedroom units in these buildings around the city. I know developers don't like them because they are harder to rent, but if we want to work with the "supply model" having more 3-bedrooms will help the affordable crisis. I wonder how much the state would balk at the Downtown Code having a section about residential buildings need 10% (easy round number, no significance to it) 3-bedroom units. It would certainly drive down the number of 1 and 2 bedroom units, but it would certainly add a lot more "family" units to these buildings.

A work around the 3-bedrooms is to have 2 bedrooms plus a large alcove as part of the living room, which can be converted into a 3rd bedroom if needed. Developers can charge more for that flexibility, too. The same design can be done for 1 bedrooms, too. 

Edited June 11, 2021 by nashvylle

[nashville born]

55 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

I think the Office tower is closer than you think. 

   

[titanhog]

So what’s the reasoning behind basically unlimited height on one piece of land…and close by, only 11 stories?  What kind of zoning is that?

[smeagolsfree]

I do not know if the work around could be that if Barnes fund could be used to finance a certain % of the units along with TIF, then that would mandate affordable housing in that building. That could be a creative solution.

1 minute ago, titanhog said:

So what’s the reasoning behind basically unlimited height on one piece of land…and close by, only 11 stories?  What kind of zoning is that?

Two different sub districts. Yea I know your going to say that's crazy and I agree 100%

[titanhog]

2 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

Two different sub districts. Yea I know your going to say that's crazy and I agree 100%

Yeah…it’s just another one of those head-scratchers.

[smeagolsfree]

Look on the Post, the other tower info has been released. No rendering. Give Mark time to make a thread

[downtownresident]

3 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

Love the wrapping of the garage! We would have to go looking for it to realize it was above ground. Not pleased with the amount of stucco, but with the cost of construction and what they spent on the land, this was an easy VE for the developer. Also really like the alignment of Drexel with Cannery Row. This should help with some traffic concerns. I wonder how much of a hassle another Hawk Signal would be to install (Somera Road is doing one just south of the CSX tracks) as there is alot of pedestrian traffic here.

While I know we can't have affordable housing mandates, I wish we would see more 3-bedroom units in these buildings around the city. I know developers don't like them because they are harder to rent, but if we want to work with the "supply model" having more 3-bedrooms will help the affordable crisis. I wonder how much the state would balk at the Downtown Code having a section about residential buildings need 10% (easy round number, no significance to it) 3-bedroom units. It would certainly drive down the number of 1 and 2 bedroom units, but it would certainly add a lot more "family" units to these buildings.

If I’m remembering correctly, there is to be a traffic light installed at Drexel as part of the office tower project. This would allow for safer pedestrian crossing on the north side of the bridge. 

[Bos2Nash]

4 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

If I’m remembering correctly, there is to be a traffic light installed at Drexel as part of the office tower project. This would allow for safer pedestrian crossing on the north side of the bridge. 

[MLBrumby]

Lincoln Properties wants to put up another (3rd) mixed use office tower.   It's becoming apparent that developers around the country know that companies like the one from California/Georgia this week are looking for new HQ office space.  So with the slanted building... the 19(20) story residential and this one (530+k s.f.) it's going to be quite dense at that location. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2021/06/14/circle-south-developers-plan-second-tower.html

[smeagolsfree]

2 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

Lincoln Properties wants to put up another (3rd) mixed use office tower.   It's becoming apparent that developers around the country know that companies like the one from California/Georgia this week are looking for new HQ office space.  So with the slanted building... the 19(20) story residential and this one (530+k s.f.) it's going to be quite dense at that location. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2021/06/14/circle-south-developers-plan-second-tower.html

This was all posted on Friday and the NBJ just got around to reporting it.

[Sean blackdog]

Maybe close to 239 feet tall. 

Edited June 15, 2021 by Sean blackdog