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Okay, finally watched the video (signal is terrible out here). The height issue is dead as a doornail, this whole thing now revolves around Beach access, and Westminster says they're just going to build around it. This is a done deal, moving on...

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4 hours ago, vdogg said:

It appears that said amendment would be related to issues unrelated to height and that the height issue, at least as far as the judge is concerned, is DOA (if I'm reading correctly). It took almost a year for this lawsuit to be settled. If it takes another year for the amendment, the building may be well under construction by the time there's a decision for that. I think that the odds of this building rising as originally intended have risen significantly, I'm giving it 70/30 now.

I agree. Having lost on all counts including  height, the opposition has moved on to the issue of relocated beach access and the super majority Council vote required to relocate said beach access. Of course they are seizing on the point that there are only eight councilpersons available/eligible to vote on such a move given various self-proclaimed conflicts of interest.  

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Things moving very quickly now. It appears that yesterday (yes, on the same day), the city and development authority approved the issuance of bonds in the amount of $110 million, in support of the medical care facility. It seems that this facility is now very close to construction.

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  • vdogg changed the title to Westminster-Canterbury Expansion (Under Construction))
  • vdogg changed the title to Bay Tower (Under Construction)
17 hours ago, vdogg said:

Screenshot_20220125-143900_Gmail.thumb.jpg.bdbf5051e6b115e65c97dca220b43816.jpgHave good news and bad news. Good news that construction of the taller tower is scheduled to begin this Summer. The bad news is that the Nimbys have thrown yet another wrench in the works... <_<

 

 

It’s my understanding that Zoning Ordinance allows this development by-right, correct? So legally, idk how the Supreme Court could do anything to block it. 

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2 hours ago, Lluck002 said:

It’s my understanding that Zoning Ordinance allows this development by-right, correct? So legally, idk how the Supreme Court could do anything to block it. 

Honestly, I feel like this is a Hail Mary that has zero chance of success, bit this is also Virginia Beach. Wouldn't be the first time we've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Only time will tell.

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2 hours ago, Lluck002 said:

It’s my understanding that Zoning Ordinance allows this development by-right, correct? So legally, idk how the Supreme Court could do anything to block it. 

I don’t think I would call it by-right as it required Council’s approval but it has been approved. There was lawsuit over the approval but I believe that’s what they are referencing was thrown out. There was also an issue over relocating the public beach access that required a supermajority that couldn’t be reached due to the number of abstentions. Any word on if they figured that out?

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9 minutes ago, HRVA said:

I don’t think I would call it by-right as it required Council’s approval but it has been approved. There was lawsuit over the approval but I believe that’s what they are referencing was thrown out. There was also an issue over relocating the public beach access that required a supermajority that couldn’t be reached due to the number of abstentions. Any word on if they figured that out?

Yeah, they're not relocating it. They figured out a way to build around it.

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This case associated with this project has not moved since January, which considering that the lawyers for Westminster expected to have this wrapped up by June, does not bode well. Changing the status of this project to on hold and unpinning until we get further information.

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I really, really want them to build this project. This has the look VB needs moving forward, and I wish they could build 30 more developments like this along Shore Drive, Atlantic, and Pacific.

Wouldn't mind seeing a few in OV as well.

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Virginia Supreme Court denies hearing appeal challenging expansion of VB senior living community

Wavy update on the project and lawsuit: “Back in January, Westminster Canterbury on Chesapeake Bay’s CEO Ben Unkle was forced to stop construction of the next phase of work until legal matters were resolved.” No word on an updated timeline for construction to start again. 

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Man, if we can get this back under construction, 2023 is shaping up to be a stunning year for construction in Virginia Beach. Still going to keep the status of this project on hold until we hear from the developer on how they plan to move forward.

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https://www.mcknightsseniorliving.com/home/news/business-daily-news/250-million-ccrc-expansion-no-longer-on-hold-thanks-to-state-supreme-court/

"“With no more surrounding land and no other developable parcels near our flagship campus, it is important to us that we develop this adjacent parcel optimally. We only get one chance,” Unkle said. “Going vertical unlocked the best value and affordability for future residents in all parts of our campus.”

 

The height of the project, he added, “was driven not by the panoramic views. Rather, the height was required to make the newest tower thinner to help, not hurt, water and sky views for all the people surrounding the new tower.” 

 

The delay, Unkle said, means that future residents of Westminster–Canterbury on Chesapeake Bay will need to pay higher prices than had the organization been permitted to begin construction when the project was first approved."

 

The tower is no longer officially on hold, however, I seriously doubt that we're going to see any significant movement on site until after the holidays. Do not expect to see heavy equipment again until likely January or February.

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