Holiday Inn Express Hotel (333 Union St., 11 stories plus rooftop bar level, 116 rooms)

[markhollin]

Hemel Surati and Manek Holdings plan on building an 11 story boutique hotel  that would incorporate the existing 4 story, 35,600 sq. ft. space office structure at 333 Union St. (directly across 4th Ave. North from the Fairlane Hotel).  Parts of it would the new structure would be 11 stories, others would be 7 stories on top of the the 1954-era structure.  There will be rooftop amenities including a bar, which might technically make it a 12 story project.  Manek Holdings paid $3.85 million for the building in 2017.

No word yet on exact amount of rooms, which brand would be involved, when it will get underway, etc.  

A March 25th will seek the bonus height with the Metro Planning Downtown CodesCommittee on March 26th.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21116197/downtown-building-could-land-hotel-addition

 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2020/02/14/deal-dash-nba-nfl-players-invest-in-trinity-lane.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline
 

The existing structure which will be added-upon:

This screen snot fromSmeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[smeagolsfree]

Detailed color renderings will be out in about two weeks.

[downtownresident]

Glad to see some investment on the north side of downtown! 

[Bark At The Sun]

I like this part of downtown the best.  You can really have some fun bar hopping/restaurant dining at these boutique hotels on 4th, Printers Alley and the cool 3rd Avenue restaurants.  The Indigo is stepping their game up and so is this development.

[markhollin]

It will be 7 stories plus a rooftop bar level  on top of the existing 4.   MDHA Design Review Committee will vote on the plan April 7th. Manek management and Southeast Architecture will go before Metro Planning Dept.'s Downtown Code Design Review Committee on March 26th for approval on the bonus height.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21122428/images-released-for-downtown-hotel-plan

[ajs]

A little sad that a downtown building has to get special "bonus height" permission to build 11 stories.

[CenterHill]

3 hours ago, ajs said:

A little sad that a downtown building has to get special "bonus height" permission to build 11 stories.

Yeah, don't understand that.    

[Bos2Nash]

It is because this are of the downtown is considered the "Core Historic Subdistrict". These are typically developed to try and maintain a certain level character within the area. Now I am not advocating that this building is deserving of that distinction, but it just so happens that the building is around other historic buildings and the city wants the property to fall into that category. If you literally flop to the other side of Union, there is a 30 story height cap (with bonus height). It's all about character really.

[BnaBreaker]

3 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

It is because this are of the downtown is considered the "Core Historic Subdistrict". These are typically developed to try and maintain a certain level character within the area. Now I am not advocating that this building is deserving of that distinction, but it just so happens that the building is around other historic buildings and the city wants the property to fall into that category. If you literally flop to the other side of Union, there is a 30 story height cap (with bonus height). It's all about character really.

That makes sense, but what's with the 30 story height limit on the other side of Union?  Why is this city so obsessed with self-imposed height limits?  Is there anywhere in this city a building can just be free to rise as tall as it wants?

[Bos2Nash]

20 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

That makes sense, but what's with the 30 story height limit on the other side of Union?  Why is this city so obsessed with self-imposed height limits?  Is there anywhere in this city a building can just be free to rise as tall as it wants?

Technically no. There are caps in all sections of the Downtown Code. It would not surprise me if the airport and their flight paths have a large hand in height restrictions. FAA have a large hand in how cities build up as they do have a say in heights for floor altitudes of aircraft. If the FAA does not approve heights, it becomes VERY hard to insure a building. Here is a link to Boston's Airspace map around Logan International Airport. I haven't been able to locate something like this for BNA (possible @LA_TN knows if this exists?). There does not appear to be a direct approach over the downtown area, but I know from experience that I have seen low flying southwest flights go right over downtown. So that could play into it.

[BnaBreaker]

13 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

Technically no. There are caps in all sections of the Downtown Code. It would not surprise me if the airport and their flight paths have a large hand in height restrictions. FAA have a large hand in how cities build up as they do have a say in heights for floor altitudes of aircraft. If the FAA does not approve heights, it becomes VERY hard to insure a building. Here is a link to Boston's Airspace map around Logan International Airport. I haven't been able to locate something like this for BNA (possible @LA_TN knows if this exists?). There does not appear to be a direct approach over the downtown area, but I know from experience that I have seen low flying southwest flights go right over downtown. So that could play into it.

Hmm, I am aware of FAA enforced height restrictions (San Diego is a prime example of the effect these restrictions can have on a skyline,) but I wasn't aware that Nashville had one in effect.  I mean downtown Nashville is really no closer to BNA than uptown Charlotte is to CLT.  Does a jet really need more than five miles to clear 600 feet?

[Bos2Nash]

42 minutes ago, BnaBreaker said:

Does a jet really need more than five miles to clear 600 feet?

The info I was able to find may only relate to the radar tower, novicness at work lol.

This is the map I was able to find.... The VFR Chart, the 46/24 are in hundreds of feet.

[LA_TN]

Runway 13/31 directly lines up with downtown, thus the reason Tony G only proposed 750 ft for Church St. Park. That is the max height the FAA will allow for that site (will vary by location and elevation). You can build taller than the FAA limit, but then the building is not insurable

[BnaBreaker]

19 minutes ago, LA_TN said:

Runway 13/31 directly lines up with downtown, thus the reason Tony G only proposed 750 ft for Church St. Park. That is the max height the FAA will allow for that site (will vary by location and elevation). You can build taller than the FAA limit, but then the building is not insurable

Wait... so Nashville will literally never get a building over 750 ft tall?  I'm not sure how I never knew this... what a gut punch!  

Also, thank you @Bos2Nash for digging that map up!  Very informative.

[markhollin]

The concept plan was approved yesterday by the MDHA Design Review Committee.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21127318/mdha-approves-downtown-hotel-project-plan

 

[Nathan_in_DC]

On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2020 at 7:42 PM, Bos2Nash said:

The info I was able to find may only relate to the radar tower, novicness at work lol.

This is the map I was able to find.... The VFR Chart, the 46/24 are in hundreds of feet.

 

So those are the airspace zones around the airport. The 46/24 and 46/12 means that it is a controlled airspace zone in that area between 2,600ft and 4,600ft and 2,100ft and 4,600ft ASL respectively, and the 46/SFC means it's controlled airspace from the surface to 4,600 feet. Basically, aircraft going through that area, either transiting or heading to the airport, have to get clearance from the tower to avoid interfering with flight operations at the field. It doesn't really have anything to do with obstacles, those are noted by the inverted V with a dot, and the numbers next to them are the maximum height of the obstacle in feet above sea level.

[markhollin]

Manek Management announces that the hotel brand will be Radisson RED, and will feature 116 rooms, plus a basement speakeasy-style bar, and the aforementioned rooftop bar.  DAV Construction will be the contractor. A Nov. 1, 2021 opening is planned. 

Founded in 2015, the Radisson RED brand has hotels in Minneapolis, Portland (Oregon), Lima (Peru) and Campinas (Brazil), Cape Town (South Africa) and Glasgow (United Kingdom), among other cities. There are also RED hotels under development in Miami, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Two new renderings below.

More at The Nashville Post here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21128010/radisson-red-set-for-downtown-building

And behind the NBJ paywall here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2020/04/13/office-building-to-morph-into-10-story-hotel.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

[nashvylle]

not sure I like the red, especially in this area, but I won't complain. 

[GreenHillsBoy]

There is an apartment complex on Charlotte near Sylvan Park that has red like this and in less than two years, it is a very light pink color.  I don't understand how these architects and developers use things that will easily fade.  A similar situation occurs where they use natural wood to accent and only use a stain or sealant, not paint, and in less than a year, the wood looks like crap.  

[markhollin]

A $120,000 permit has been granted for interior demo of the 4 story base structure for the hotel project. Tiny's Construction will handle the work. 

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21130688/boutique-hotel-project-progresses-downtown

[Bos2Nash]

On 4/24/2020 at 3:38 PM, GreenHillsBoy said:

There is an apartment complex on Charlotte near Sylvan Park that has red like this and in less than two years, it is a very light pink color.  I don't understand how these architects and developers use things that will easily fade.  A similar situation occurs where they use natural wood to accent and only use a stain or sealant, not paint, and in less than a year, the wood looks like crap.  

Nine times out of ten the architect specifies something that really won't fade. There are many many many products out there that are thru colored and/or warrantied against fading. It is developers trying to cut corners and raise profit when they sell the building. The one in sylvan park you mentioned i believe either sold or went under new management so it is clear the developers don't really care about the building quality. Architects are the easy ones to blame, but these multi-family projects are so owner/developer driven that things like finish materials always get chopped down.

Wood is a natural material and is incredibly sustainable, but requires more upkeep. Terrahouse has a wood wall in the pool area and they take care of it every couple years with cleaning and re-staining.

[markhollin]

Interior demo work underway.

Looking SE from intersection of Union St. and 4th Ave. North:

[markhollin]

Outer skin taken off.

Looking SE from intersection of Union St. and 4th Ave. North:

 

[markhollin]

Gutting and prepping outer skin of lower levels continue.

Looking SW from Union St., 1/2 block east of 4th Ave. North:

 

[markhollin]

Slow progress on gutting the base structure.

Looking SE from intersection of Union St. and 4th Ave. North: