Economic Conditions - Nashville, TN, U.S., Global

[markhollin]

^ ^ ^ OK....let's not wander into pontificating about what "we" want "the government" to do or not do.  Too many varying gradations and opinions to make sweeping categorizations. 

Let's try to keep focused on how economic conditions in Nashville and Tennessee are effecting development in the area.

[Nashvillain]

FOX17 retracts story of cover up in Mayor's office. And that's a lot of views for a local story on Twitter

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by Nashvillain

[nashvylle]

The coincidence of Nashville going to Phase 3 during cooper’s son’s high school graduation then immediately back to phase 2 based on “record number of clusters” is what I can’t get over... whether it’s a cover up or not. 

[titanhog]

1 hour ago, Nashvillain said:

FOX17 retracts story of cover up in Mayor's office. And that's a lot of views for a local story on Twitter

 

Ferrier has major egg on his face after that one.  

[Jamie Hall]

On 9/17/2020 at 8:22 PM, fxvol said:

Entertainer John Rich is now floating the idea of organizing a $2 billion class action lawsuit by downtown businesses and their employees against Metro Govt.

Great. This should be wonderful for Metro's bottom line. Thanks, John.

[DDIG]

2 hours ago, Jamie Hall said:

Great. This should be wonderful for Metro's bottom line. Thanks, John.

This will not be a Nashville only battle. I suspect you'll see this attempted most everywhere  until a precedence is set.

[NashRugger]

2 hours ago, Jamie Hall said:

Great. This should be wonderful for Metro's bottom line. Thanks, John.

Good luck on trying to get that to be awarded in their favor. They can try, but I wouldn't see it going well for them given what governments are allowed to do in the public interest during a health emergency. 

But also, they want to complain now about the city seeking a tax increase for budget woes, this would potentially bankrupt the city and then you've got an entirely different f**kery at hand. 

[MLBrumby]

I have no problem with media 'news' getting it wrong, as long as it's an honest attempt and the organization follows up with clarification when they get it wrong (public apologies mean almost nothing to me, but if that's also included, then OK). I mean, according to several national polls, a very scant minority even trust news media now.  Granted, we don't know if this channel was trying to be honest in their expose, but (for a moment) let's give them the benefit of a doubt. What I mean by that is this.. news outlets must be allowed to get some things wrong if they are to feel any liberty to go after any story.  Their audience will judge them by their clarifications, and the number of times they're compelled to do it.  Don't misunderstand me... as an attorney, I value slander/libel laws and haven't met a reporter who isn't aware of them. I do know of (and personally a couple) news media people who push those limits frequently.  But standards shouldn't be just whatever a news outlet sets for its own corporate policies/procedures. If there was whiff of impropriety, then good on this news outlet (and any) for sniffing out the story (yes, I mixed a couple of metaphors... sorry, not sorry).  If they do this too much, their audience will decline. But public shame for going after a story? Sorry, I just don't fault any of them for doing that. There's too much 'group' effort in media today. They all even use the same words too many times. To this channel, there's a lesson in getting a 'story' wrong. They should hope they've learned a lesson. 

[Nashvillain]

2 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

I have no problem with media 'news' getting it wrong, as long as it's an honest attempt and the organization follows up with clarification when they get it wrong (public apologies mean almost nothing to me, but if that's also included, then OK). I mean, according to several national polls, a very scant minority even trust news media now.  Granted, we don't know if this channel was trying to be honest in their expose, but (for a moment) let's give them the benefit of a doubt. What I mean by that is this.. news outlets must be allowed to get some things wrong if they are to feel any liberty to go after any story.  Their audience will judge them by their clarifications, and the number of times they're compelled to do it.  Don't misunderstand me... as an attorney, I value slander/libel laws and haven't met a reporter who isn't aware of them. I do know of (and personally a couple) news media people who push those limits frequently.  But standards shouldn't be just whatever a news outlet sets for its own corporate policies/procedures. If there was whiff of impropriety, then good on this news outlet (and any) for sniffing out the story (yes, I mixed a couple of metaphors... sorry, not sorry).  If they do this too much, their audience will decline. But public shame for going after a story? Sorry, I just don't fault any of them for doing that. There's too much 'group' effort in media today. They all even use the same words too many times. To this channel, there's a lesson in getting a 'story' wrong. They should hope they've learned a lesson. 

There's a difference in "getting it wrong" and deliberately leaving out facts and context which contradict the story. 

[MLBrumby]

I agree... too many of the sources we should trust deliberately leave out important details. 

I should have prefaced my comment as a general statement... not a defense of this particular station on this particular story.  Nobody knows better than I that news media sucks. I had a client whose career was completely destroyed by local media here in Chattanooga.

[Nash_12South]

What to expect next Thursday Oct. 1.

[nashvylle]

Nashville Election Commission voted 3-2 to send the Nashville Taxpayer Protection Act to chancery court to determine the legality of the proposed amendment. I believe the court had to have a verdict by September 30th. 

[LA_TN]

Hmmmmmm.....

 

[downtownresident]

11 minutes ago, LA_TN said:

Hmmmmmm.....

 

John Cooper is an absolute disaster as far as Economic Development. It’s any wonder that developers are planning office space here. 

[MLBrumby]

But who didn't know that before he was elected? Duh! I live a 150 miles away, and I knew that!

[downtownresident]

This tweet of Councilman O’Connell’s is interesting: 

 

[smeagolsfree]

Maybe we will see the mayor leaving office soon as well. I think he will be a one termer now that he has effectively committed political suicide with the tax increase and  the controversy over COVID. There are no winners as far as how you handle the pandemic. Half will like it and half will not.

I really think the voters will want someone fresh and taller next time around.

[titanhog]

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

Maybe we will see the mayor leaving office soon as well. I think he will be a one termer now that he has effectively committed political suicide with the tax increase and  the controversy over COVID. There are no winners as far as how you handle the pandemic. Half will like it and half will not.

I really think the voters will want someone fresh and taller next time around.

Who is the next Democrat built in the persona of a Bredesen / Dean?  Someone who comes across as the man / woman in control...mostly non-partisan (at least publicly)...and gets the big picture?  Surely there's someone built in that style...right?  I can't think of either a Dem or Rep in the city off hand.  I hope they're out there.  I would even love to see someone like Butch Spyridon run for mayor.  I was in Leadership Music with him back in 2007...and he's an all-around good guy.  Have no idea of his politics...but he has a love for Nashville...I think he "gets it."  However...I'm not sure he'd be interested in running the city.  I think he likes where he is.

[MLBrumby]

3 hours ago, downtownresident said:

This tweet of Councilman O’Connell’s is interesting: 

 

Granted, nothing has been made "official", but didn't what O'Connell predicts above already happen? 

[smeagolsfree]

My guess is that Freddie makes a run or one of the other smarter well spoken council persons. I am sure Steve Glover will try and fail. He showed his rear making false claims on Fox news with the Fox 17 story. Freddie is pretty liberal though.

Good or bad, when you exploit a false news item for political benefit and it comes back to bite you in the rear, most folks remember that. I recognize Cooper is a baffoon but so it Glover! I cover both sides of the political spectrum here. I just do not like extremism. II am a middle of the road voice of reason person. That is why Bredesen was popular.

[downtownresident]

7 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

My guess is that Freddie makes a run or one of the other smarter well spoken council persons. I am sure Steve Glover will try and fail. He showed his rear making false claims on Fox news with the Fox 17 story. Freddie is pretty liberal though.

Good or bad, when you exploit a false news item for political benefit and it comes back to bite you in the rear, most folks remember that. I recognize Cooper is a baffoon but so it Glover! I cover both sides of the political spectrum here. I just do not like extremism. II am a middle of the road voice of reason person. That is why Bredesen was popular.

Freddie is pretty level headed and pragmatic. I could see him or Bob Mendes make a run for it. 

[markhollin]

After Independence High School closed earlier this week due to Covid-19, now Page H.S. (also in Williamson County) is closing as well.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/williamson/franklin/2020/09/30/williamson-page-high-school-closes-covid-19/3589621001/

[Rockatansky]

18 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

and taller next time

Really? Do we need to result to insults and put downs?

6 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Freddie makes a run

I'd think he'd test the waters first by running for an at-large CM seat.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Rockatansky

[titanhog]

5 hours ago, markhollin said:

After Independence High School closed earlier this week due to Covid-19, now Page H.S. (also in Williamson County) is closing as well.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/williamson/franklin/2020/09/30/williamson-page-high-school-closes-covid-19/3589621001/

That's the thing to take into consideration.  Once temps drop below 77 degrees, viruses aren't as easily killed by the sun (and temperature...of course)...part of the reason viruses spread so easily in the fall, winter and spring, even outdoors (according to an epidemiologist friend).  So...we're possibly going to start seeing this thing worsen before we get vaccines.

Btw...I had two relatives in Arkansas who died of Covid last week. 

[markhollin]

13 minutes ago, titanhog said:

 

Btw...I had two relatives in Arkansas who died of Covid last week. 

Sorry for your loss, titanhog.  Grace and peace to you and yours.