Jump to content

The Coronavirus thread

Vitamin_N

By Vitamin_N
in Charlotte Coffee House

 Share

Recommended Posts


  • Replies 1.6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

TCLT
TCLT

This forum desperately needs downvotes back smdh.

Richhamleigh, DC
Richhamleigh, DC

Commence rant.  Thank you, Governor Cooper, as a Democrat in a purple state, you may have the crappiest job in the nation right now.   The governor is responsible for the health, safety and welf

kermit
kermit

Off the top of my head: Uniform scientifically-based recommendations for states to follow A federal entity which holds states accountable for not following recommendations (to the extent

Posted Images

Dale City

Dale

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, tozmervo said:

That is the most obscene thing I've ever read on Urban Planet. Averaging out a human life over a total population to downplay the destructive toll the virus has had on families and communities across the country? That is vile. 

Confirmed: virtue signal received. What is truly vile is your cower-in-place advocacy which effects will almost certainly kill more than the virus. Don’t like my numbers ? Wait until we see your numbers! 

1 minute ago, UrbanCharlotte said:

I guess it ultimately boils down to how many lives were actually saved long term by the measures that were implemented... And how many more will be lost globally as a result of the economic destruction caused by shutting down. 

Pennsylvania ...

More COVID deaths over age 100 than under age 45. 

More COVID deaths over age 95 than under age 60.

More Covid deaths over age 85 than under age 80.

Rationale: have to destroy economy to save Grandma.  Result: destroyed economy AND killed Grandma.


 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Popular Post
Madison Parkitect Burg

Madison Parkitect

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted
2 hours ago, Dale said:

Had we done nothing, I mean NOTHING, each American might have lost 2 to 5 days of life, on average, would still have their jobs and 401k’s and not beholden to the modern day equivalent of duck-and-cover drills. That would have put people like me 2 to 5 days closer to heaven with Pandemians losing just 2 to 5 days of knowing what’s best for others. Of your ‘success stories’, Germany is likely to pay a heavy price for its lockdowns. Oh, and Brave New World: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/health/germany-south-korea-easing-coronavirus-measures-intl/index.html

Had we done nothing we'd have over half a million dead, bodies literally stored in gymnasiums and parking lots, photos of that on every newspaper front page in the country, a nationwide public revolt, and the possible collapse of American society. But sure, keep thinking the way you are and we'll keep seeing what you value. 

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Popular Post
Synopsis101 Whistle-Stop

Synopsis101

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted
39 minutes ago, Dale said:

Confirmed: virtue signal received. What is truly vile is your cower-in-place advocacy which effects will almost certainly kill more than the virus. Don’t like my numbers ? Wait until we see your numbers! 

Pennsylvania ...

More COVID deaths over age 100 than under age 45. 

More COVID deaths over age 95 than under age 60.

More Covid deaths over age 85 than under age 80.

Rationale: have to destroy economy to save Grandma.  Result: destroyed economy AND killed Grandma.


 

 

 

 

 

 

What happened to being pro life?

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites
nicholas Burg

nicholas

Posted
Posted (edited)

NC will move to Phase 2 on Friday evening.

Quote

...restaurants can open indoor dining areas and hair and nail salons, barbershops, spas, tattoo parlors and gyms can reopen as long as they limit the number of people inside to 50 percent of their allowed capacity.

Also in phase 2, the statewide stay-at-home order will be lifted and people can gather in small groups of more than 10 people. Public playgrounds and public pools will be able to reopen, and entertainment venues and places or worship can operate at a limited capacity.

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/restaurants-salons-plan-to-reopen-this-weekend-but-gyms-bars-must-remain-closed/19106007/

EDIT/UPDATE:

Quote

Gov. Roy Cooper announced Wednesday that North Carolina will enter the second stage of a three-part plan to resume business and social activities during the coronavirus pandemic on Friday, but earlier plans for the stage have been scaled back.

While restaurants can open indoor dining areas and hair and nail salons and barbershops can operate at half of their allowed capacity, bars, fitness centers, movie theaters and other indoor entertainment venues and playgrounds must remain closed for at least another five weeks.

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/restaurants-salons-pools-can-reopen-this-weekend-but-gyms-bars-must-remain-closed/19106007/

I understand some of the scaled-back reopening, but I also think it's a little unusual to keep theaters and playgrounds closed until basically July.  From what I've read, the death rate is essentially negligible for those under 10 (which is the main age group using playgrounds), and theaters already have all viewers facing the same direction, and there is very little talking happening inside a theater (which is apparently mainly how the virus is transmitted).  Just seems strange to me.

Edited by nicholas
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
joenc Whistle-Stop

joenc

Posted
Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, UrbanCharlotte said:

I guess it ultimately boils down to how many lives were actually saved long term by the measures that were implemented... And how many more will be lost globally as a result of the economic destruction caused by shutting down. 

How are they ever going to calculate that?

Edited by joenc
remove inflammatory stuff
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SoDoSoPa Unincorporated Area

SoDoSoPa

Posted
Posted
25 minutes ago, joenc said:

How are they ever going to calculate that?

As an aside, have any of you seen Niel Ferguson's code? Evidently it's par the course for scientists trying to program.

It's truly an emperor has no clothes scenario.

What parts of his code do you have an issue with exactly? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Madison Parkitect Burg

Madison Parkitect

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, nicholas said:

NC will move to Phase 2 on Friday evening.

EDIT/UPDATE:

I understand some of the scaled-back reopening, but I also think it's a little unusual to keep theaters and playgrounds closed until basically July.  From what I've read, the death rate is essentially negligible for those under 10 (which is the main age group using playgrounds), and theaters already have all viewers facing the same direction, and there is very little talking happening inside a theater (which is apparently mainly how the virus is transmitted).  Just seems strange to me.

The only thing I can think of for playgrounds is that they're hard to sanitize between every user like restaurants etc. can, especially since most of them are just in parks with nobody policing them. Although the wording is a little ambiguous, does Cooper mean "indoor entertainment venues and playgrounds" or "indoor entertainment venues, and playgrounds" because the comma makes a big difference.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
NCMike1990 Hamlet

NCMike1990

Posted
Posted
54 minutes ago, Madison Parkitect said:

The only thing I can think of for playgrounds is that they're hard to sanitize between every user like restaurants etc. can, especially since most of them are just in parks with nobody policing them. 

^ Not only that, but how would it even be possible for every playground in NC to be limited to just gatherings of 25? They can't have someone at every playground counting people and then having to turn people away if the 25 limit is reached. Not to mention there are always plenty of adults there for b-day parties and other events as well.

So I can understand why it's probably best to leave them closed until phase 3.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
kermit Megalopolis

kermit

Posted
Posted (edited)

Quick tweeter thread on how Georgia is reporting misleading numbers on COVID infections. The thread is on the official Georgia Department of Public Health guide to "understanding the data." We are watching as "science denying" becomes outright lying. The lack of data reporting standards (a very basic job that is normally done by the federal government) has already killed thousands of people and will certainly kill tens of thousands more.

 

 

 

Edited by kermit
  • Thanks 2
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
KJHburg Ecumenopolis

KJHburg

Posted
Posted

These are just the Triangle area companies working on vaccines, treatments, etc for this virus.  And LabCorp is not even on their list with their tests.   NC is crucial in the fight against this virus. 

From the Triangle Biz Journal

Aside from the many researchers working at N.C. State, UNC Chapel Hill and Duke University – as well as the latter two's hospital systems – the region's efforts against Covid-19 include:

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2020/05/27/heres-a-look-at-the-triangle-medical-companies-fi.html

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
KJHburg Ecumenopolis

KJHburg

Posted
Posted

Gastonia based Parkdale Mills has become one of the largest Federal contractors for Corvid 19 response.  From the Biz Journal

Parkdale Inc. is the U.S. government’s fifth-largest contractor for emergency Covid-19 supplies in the nation, with the Gastonia-based textile company producing $543.8 million worth of protective and testing equipment.   News organization ProPublica published a database on May 27 of the $14.7 billion worth of federal contracting for supplies and services tied to the pandemic. The database details the contracts made by several federal agencies and is searchable by state, companies and the agencies granting them.  According to the database, North Carolina is eighth in the nation for the value of Covid-19 emergency materials to be produced. That is on the strength of contracts by Parkdale and its subsidiary, U.S. Cotton, with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. The $642.7 million in contracts awarded to North Carolina-based companies represent 4.4% of the contract value awarded nationally.  The biggest single N.C. contract is $531.9 million for 60 million reusable isolation gowns for medical workers and first responders, which Parkdale signed April 23.   Davis Warlick, executive vice president of Parkdale, says the company was first approached by Peter Navarro, director of trade and manufacturing policy for the Trump administration, who has been given the assignment to enlist U.S. industry in meeting the need for pandemic supplies.

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2020/06/01/parkdale-inc-wins-540m-worth-of-covid-19-supplies.html

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Nick2 Burg

Nick2

Posted
Posted
On 5/27/2020 at 6:09 PM, KJHburg said:

this is an interesting way to look at the deaths dividing them into thirds and look how concentrated they are in the northeast.

COVIDMapb.png

Holy crap this map is very telling. I wonder if it will change in the coming months.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
navigator319 Burg

navigator319

Posted
Posted (edited)

Oh boy the graphics departments must be working overtime today to prepare for the fear mongering that's to come tomorrow when this rolls over to nice round number.  Maybe need some special theme music scored to your rise repeat trash that called local 'news'

 

254227293_Screenshot(2).thumb.png.a3c293f3f7e363f90e19fddc575f7143.png

Edited by navigator319
  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
videtur quam contuor Town

videtur quam contuor

Posted
Posted (edited)

Edit:  I should have titled this  House Calls  (L'esprit d'escalier)

The good news about corona virus (Good news? There is good news?) is that my wife has several medical conditions for which she sees specialists. At this time they prefer consultation and follow up visits to be by phone rather than in person unless a physical examination is mandatory. The phone behavior of her doctors is far different from before the pandemic. Now the doctor him/her self calls. Prior to this on the rare occasions a doctor used the phone it was the nurse or PA who called and  said "Hold for the doctor please." Once connected there is an extended conversation, much longer than the 5-10 minutes of the in-office consultation previously. She senses the doctor(s) is/are bored in an office devoid of patient flow and they wish for patient contact of some kind. It is a more human interaction with a bit of small talk, general conversation about past and present, suggestions for maintenance and monitoring, some personal news, discussion of the institutional situation in these times and a slow good bye.

Edited by tarhoosier
  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
kermit Megalopolis

kermit

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, XRZ.ME said:

Looks like Mecklenburg plays an important role in recent NC case up tick.

Yea, the reopening does not seem to be going well here. Based on incubation and progression times, we might begin to see some positive tests from the protests gatherings next week and, if they were spreader events hospitalizations starting to tick up around the middle of the month at the soonest.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
tozmervo Metropolis

tozmervo

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, kermit said:

Yea, the reopening does not seem to be going well here. Based on incubation and progression times, we might begin to see some positive tests from the protests gatherings next week and, if they were spreader events hospitalizations starting to tick up around the middle of the month at the soonest.

True based on raw counts, but once you flip over to per capita - Mecklenburg is definitely not the worst spot. (via https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard)
Notably, Durham county shows up on the high end of both per-capita AND raw count.

image.thumb.png.ddc0cf9694fe2fc737587b526bfe727e.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kermit Megalopolis

kermit

Posted
Posted (edited)

^ Thanks for pointing that out. I was only taking a shallow view of the direction of change in diagnosed cases -- they are going up. I did not intend to suggest we were the worst of all (its been a while since I have seen any county numbers from outside Meck). Rowan appears to be a hot spot, but I am surprised that Anson hasn't become a disaster with all of its poultry processing. 

Edited by kermit
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.