110 East: 23 story Tower by Stiles/Shorenstein

[CLT>]

8 hours ago, jthomas said:

Here's another idea for a solution. What if the TOD zoning district mandated a minimum floor-to-floor height for all structured parking? This minimum would be set at a height (say, +/- 14 feet) that would facilitate adaptive reuse of the parking structure. This would incentivize building owners to reduce the number of people who drive to their buildings, because as parking demand fell, they could convert parking levels to leaseable space.

There are a few buildings in other places that have incorporated this concept - Google the 84.51 Center in Cincinnati for an example.

This right here. It's the first step of incremental monumental change. 

[CLT>]

7 hours ago, kermit said:

Dunno, that should be a community discussion.  Personally I would suggest 1/2 mile from stations (coincidentally this is the distance from the station to my office). Using the TOD zones that the city already designated (which I believe are 1/4 mile) would also make sense.  Fundamentally we need to recognize that its impossible to build walkability without making it harder to drive through or to those areas.

Part of the thinking in the new Charlotte 2040 Comprehensive Plan is 10min neighborhoods, everything is within 15 min via your chosen transportation mode, and as the city evolves that starts to change from 15 min in a Car to 15 min on a bike or on transit.

7 hours ago, kermit said:

I will say that (based on the renderings) the ground floor structure, with the roof overhang, will be a significant benefit to folks waiting for Northbound trains.

Until the 'security folks' of that building shoo the folks off for 'loitering on private property'

[Nathan2]

9 hours ago, CLT> said:

Part of the thinking in the new Charlotte 2040 Comprehensive Plan is 10min neighborhoods, everything is within 15 min via your chosen transportation mode, and as the city evolves that starts to change from 15 min in a Car to 15 min on a bike or on transit.

Until the 'security folks' of that building shoo the folks off for 'loitering on private property'

I think this goes back to what @kermit said. What will we do with all this space that is created for cars when the garages aren't full anymore. The comprehensive plan isn't due to go into effect until the end of 2021. Many more buildings with floors of parking garages will most likely go up by the time anything can make an impact. 

[southernnorthcarolina]

 

Put in foundations sufficient to add several additional office floors in the future, and provide for a future additional elevator or two.  As the demand for parking spaces per square foot of office space declines, you'll still have enough parking to satisfy the demand, even with additional office floors.

A few office floors on top would be much more attractive to tenants than office space lower in the structure in former garage space.

[Sigma]

Thanks RDF, I've been saying for years Camden needs to be a pedestrian / stroll district.  replace the asphalt with bricks/pavers, electronic bollards at street crossings to allow vendors / some deliveries.  Make it a street market in the spring and fall etc.

[Blue_Devil]

6 hours ago, Nathan2 said:

I think this goes back to what @kermit said. What will we do with all this space that is created for cars when the garages aren't full anymore. The comprehensive plan isn't due to go into effect until the end of 2021. Many more buildings with floors of parking garages will most likely go up by the time anything can make an impact. 

I mean, New York/sf/Chicago, garages are all full and you pay 1000s a month for a spot. I am sure if we get rid of parking requirements parking  will still be Needed and in demand. 

[CLT>]

7 hours ago, Sigma said:

Thanks RDF, I've been saying for years Camden needs to be a pedestrian / stroll district.  replace the asphalt with bricks/pavers, electronic bollards at street crossings to allow vendors / some deliveries.  Make it a street market in the spring and fall etc.

Sadly, the current CDOT policies are not at all conducive to this. Right now if you want a shared surface type of street a developer is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of any surface that's not asphalt, they won't touch it. Also the new TOD zoning is very strict about actual curbs, gutters and tree pits. Needs to be some work convincing CDOT that this is the future, and as slow as city government sometimes moves we need to start yesterday. But there should definitely be an opportunity to include shared surface streets in the new UDO.

[Mgelbach]

Sorry to sidetrack the parking deck debate, but I got the drone out! Only  few more months until I can upgrade to something with a few more megapixels

[KJHburg]

Could not find a thread for this if there is one I apologize.   Marketing has begun for this tower according to CBRE with an advertised price of  $45/sq ft the highest in Charlotte. Construction is supposed to begin 3Q of 2020 but could be delayed looking for a fall 2022 completion as of now.    23 story with parking incorporated within the tower and 363,000 sq ft of office space plus ground floor retail. 

Here is the loopnet listing

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1812-South-Blvd-Charlotte-NC/18753745/

Here is some information from Shorenstein

https://shorenstein.com/properties/    and from Cushman and Wakefield

https://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/united-states/news/2020/03/clt-03-east-west-station

 

[eastsider]

https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/topic/119572-23-story-east-west-tower/#comments

[KJHburg]

10 hours ago, eastsider said:

https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/topic/119572-23-story-east-west-tower/#comments

sorry about that I looked and looked and could not find that thread.  well the name is now been revealed East West Tower.   Maybe the moderator can merge the threads I could not find it

[CLT1]

They were out drilling geotech borings in the parking lot this morning. 

[Norm2]

I am glad this project seems to still be alive. I was worried it would be shelved due to.....current events

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, norm21499 said:

I am glad this project seems to still be alive. I was worried it would be shelved due to.....current events

it is shelved... as far as I know. Core sampling has me confused.

[JHart]

16 hours ago, Tyree Ricardo said:

it is shelved... as far as I know. Core sampling has me confused.

A lot of projects that initiated design will finish that portion since most of the money has already been allocated/paid, it wouldn't surprise me if the preliminary sitework was already scheduled. Cheaper to finish the design and have a budget ready for when capital becomes available than restart the design phase again.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, JHart said:

A lot of projects that initiated design will finish that portion since most of the money has already been allocated/paid, it wouldn't surprise me if the preliminary sitework was already scheduled. Cheaper to finish the design and have a budget ready for when capital becomes available than restart the design phase again.

thats kinda what I was thinking. 

[Guest]

Well What do you know, it has filed a presubmit.

[Norm2]

33 minutes ago, Tyree Ricardo said:

Well What do you know, it has filed a presubmit.

Yaaaay! I wonder if they have an anchor tenant or if it still spec. I would imagine someone must have signed on.

[Madison Parkitect]

3 hours ago, Tyree Ricardo said:

Well What do you know, it has filed a presubmit.

Legitimately shocked

[Blue_Devil]

8 minutes ago, Madison Parkitect said:

Legitimately shocked

There must be a corporate tenant. No way they build on spec in this climate

[KJHburg]

  Maybe a Moodys or even a Better Mortgage which is growing rapidly.    Shorenstein does have DEEP pockets so they could go spec. 

Edited August 12, 2020 by KJHburg

[Guest]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Hmm US Bank as I was told they are absolutely NOT going into BofA Plaza unless that was a diversion tactic.  They leaves them floating out there but I still think  they will stay uptown.  Maybe a Moodys or even a Better Mortgage which is growing rapidly.    Shorenstein does have DEEP pockets so they could go spec. 

lol, I told you that because I wasn't told not to share it. In fact the person who told me unequivocally is likely reading this thread.

[Nick2]

19 hours ago, KJHburg said:

  Maybe a Moodys or even a Better Mortgage which is growing rapidly.    Shorenstein does have DEEP pockets so they could go spec. 

If you think about it, once there is a vaccine the rapid growth will continue. And if they time it right, this will finish construction just as normalcy returns and the demand for new office space begins to skyrocket again.

[j-man]

3 hours ago, Nick2 said:

If you think about it, once there is a vaccine the rapid growth will continue. And if they time it right, this will finish construction just as normalcy returns and the demand for new office space begins to skyrocket again.

You know I was thinking about that last part of what you said before reading this and I do believe that if there is a sudden answer and vaccine for the coronavirus that things will get kicked into overdrive and place like Charlotte will bounce back stronger than ever. 

[KJHburg]

your before photos from today.  soil testing.