The Republic Is Saved.

[jrs2]

if the Leftists think anything will come of this, you're nuts.  But keep on keeping on.  Go to a Vegas bookie and see what the line is on it and put your money where your mouth is.  Because until then, it's just a peanut gallery.

instead of posting anti-Trump stuff, post Pro-Left stuff for all to see how great it is to be a Leftist.  If it's so great, maybe you'll get a few new recruits.

And here's the catch:  conservatives welcome their citizens to be armed and have guns.  The Left does not.  Gee, I wonder why...

Edited October 21, 2022 by jrs2

[spenser1058]

They must have gotten a new shipment of grape Kool-Aid in at GQP HQ…

[orange87]

14 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

if the Leftists think anything will come of this, you're nuts.  But keep on keeping on.  Go to a Vegas bookie and see what the line is on it and put your money where your mouth is.  Because until then, it's just a peanut gallery.

instead of posting anti-Trump stuff, post Pro-Left stuff for all to see how great it is to be a Leftist.  If it's so great, maybe you'll get a few new recruits.

And here's the catch:  conservatives welcome their citizens to be armed and have guns.  The Left does not.  Gee, I wonder why...

This is why. Because many conservatives care more about having guns than the lives of children.

[jrs2]

49 minutes ago, orange87 said:

This is why. Because many conservatives care more about having guns than the lives of children.

nice try. I don't even know why I even try talking to Leftists.  Nice propaganda with that attachment.  typical.

I have never seen a more clueless bunch in my life.  you see an a55hole on TV getting stuck with a needle and you rush to the vaccine centers.  You know nothing about the human immune system.  The Left MSM glamorizes a shooting and you rush to protest the NRA and gun owners. Evil guns.  Evil guns gave us our freedom from the Brits if you recall.  Evil guns kept the country from being invaded during its first couple hundred years.  Lack of Evil guns allowed 8 million Russians to be executed because of the same types of thought made in the USSR  by the CCCP that Biden himself made as actual statements on TV this year about Trump supporters.  Lack of Evil guns allowed the Nazis to corral it's Jewish population without much if any resistance.

Has the SSA ever been under armed assault where a shooter got away with it?  Nope.  Why?  Because they have trained armed guards.  So your logic is to eradicate guns to end gun deaths.  Okay.  Outlaw knives too; and high fructose sugar and bad cocaine and reckless drivers and cigarettes and pesticides, drug use, drug use while pregnant, late term abortions, because the deaths caused by those things amounts to a staggering figure of perhaps 10,000 to 1 versus gun deaths (resulting from legal gun owners, mind you).

I don't see anyone picketing for better immune system health and outlawing steak knives, or protesting murder in general from getting tossed in the East River by the Mob with concrete shoes.

BTW, that's just a photo of kids being ushered through a parking lot.  Do you even realize how many times at Parkland they reenacted a school shooting the year leading up to the 'shooting', right down to theatrics and fake blood on victim actors?' Do you know how many times I had to go thru a mock evacuation when I was in school when they would do a drill?  Your photo means nothing to me.  I can counter that photo with the photos of dozens and dozens of dead Jewish citizens of Germany that were killed for no legitimate reason by that Socialist regime, known as the Nazi's, but actually by name known as The  National Socialist German Worker's Party, the political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism.

So it started as the German Worker's Party.  Then renamed The National Socialist German Worker's Party.  Wow.  Sound familiar?  "Socialist, " which is Leftist?  And they exploited the vote of the worker class for support, and they killed the economy to get that support.  Sound familiar?

All it takes is a little critical thinking; based on what I've seen, your bunch doesn't do any.  All you do is spit back out what the Left tells you to. 

[spenser1058]

Lol - I bet you think the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea is a democracy, too (you remember them, your hero Cheetohead has a bromance going with Kim Jong Il).

I can’t decide whether I should recommend a good therapist or a competent world history teacher for you. I’ll get back to you.

[orange87]

1 hour ago, jrs2 said:

nice try. I don't even know why I even try talking to Leftists.  Nice propaganda with that attachment.  typical.

I have never seen a more clueless bunch in my life.  you see an a55hole on TV getting stuck with a needle and you rush to the vaccine centers.  You know nothing about the human immune system.  The Left MSM glamorizes a shooting and you rush to protest the NRA and gun owners. Evil guns.  Evil guns gave us our freedom from the Brits if you recall.  Evil guns kept the country from being invaded during its first couple hundred years.  Lack of Evil guns allowed 8 million Russians to be executed because of the same types of thought made in the USSR  by the CCCP that Biden himself made as actual statements on TV this year about Trump supporters.  Lack of Evil guns allowed the Nazis to corral it's Jewish population without much if any resistance.

Has the SSA ever been under armed assault where a shooter got away with it?  Nope.  Why?  Because they have trained armed guards.  So your logic is to eradicate guns to end gun deaths.  Okay.  Outlaw knives too; and high fructose sugar and bad cocaine and reckless drivers and cigarettes and pesticides, drug use, drug use while pregnant, late term abortions, because the deaths caused by those things amounts to a staggering figure of perhaps 10,000 to 1 versus gun deaths (resulting from legal gun owners, mind you).

I don't see anyone picketing for better immune system health and outlawing steak knives, or protesting murder in general from getting tossed in the East River by the Mob with concrete shoes.

BTW, that's just a photo of kids being ushered through a parking lot.  Do you even realize how many times at Parkland they reenacted a school shooting the year leading up to the 'shooting', right down to theatrics and fake blood on victim actors?' Do you know how many times I had to go thru a mock evacuation when I was in school when they would do a drill?  Your photo means nothing to me.  I can counter that photo with the photos of dozens and dozens of dead Jewish citizens of Germany that were killed for no legitimate reason by that Socialist regime, known as the Nazi's, but actually by name known as The  National Socialist German Worker's Party, the political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism.

So it started as the German Worker's Party.  Then renamed The National Socialist German Worker's Party.  Wow.  Sound familiar?  "Socialist, " which is Leftist?  And they exploited the vote of the worker class for support, and they killed the economy to get that support.  Sound familiar?

All it takes is a little critical thinking; based on what I've seen, your bunch doesn't do any.  All you do is spit back out what the Left tells you to. 

That's a picture from the day Sandy Hook happened, and you say it "means nothing to you"? That speaks volumes, although I'm not surprised.

BTW, you asked for proof of climate change a couple days ago, and I gave it to you. You haven't responded to it yet.

Edited October 21, 2022 by orange87

[jrs2]

56 minutes ago, orange87 said:

That's a picture from the day Sandy Hook happened, and you say it "means nothing to you"? That speaks volumes, although I'm not surprised.

BTW, you asked for proof of climate change a couple days ago, and I gave it to you. You haven't responded to it yet.

bad things happen every day to good people, but no one cares about that because Anderson Cooper didn't tell you to care about it; face it. 

Like I said, I don't see a rally and a war cry against things that kill people daily, like medical malpractice, cancer, nursing home abuse, and auto accidents- and those account for deaths in the thousands per week if not more, and they all happen at the hands of somebody's bad decisions.  You just pick and choose what you want to focus on because that's what your Party tells you to do.  You're a "cause head" and nothing more.  Ever see the movie from 1994 "PCU?"  The cause heads...they  look for an issue to back and they protest it like a crack addict that is going through withdrawal.    You think I don't love kids?  And your feigned moral high ground sympathy...tell it to the Jewish and Russian kids (and others around the world) that were slaughtered at the hands of Socialism.  Tell it to college students run over by army tanks in Tiananmen Square.  Don't even try to equate the two in an attempt to justify Socialistic ideals.  Your politics of shame do not work either.

Like I told the other political hacks on these boards, talk to immigrants and ask them whether they want Socialist ideals governing this country, the country they flee to--the people you guys claim are victims- oh, wait, but they're not victims of the Socialist tyrannical regimes of their home countries, rather, they are victims of Donald Trump.  So laughable.  Ask them if they want the US to become Leftist where the government goes completely unchecked because of do-gooders tricking an unwitting population with PC  shaming into passive capitulation.  Not if I can help it.  So you guys just sweep immigrants under the rug because that reality contradicts your pathetic narrative.

And as for climate, I saw a commercial today where they said this summer storm season was the worst in 20 years but was supposed to be the worst in 400 years.  Think of how stupid that sounds.  They just fart this stuff out every day like it's an undeniable fact yet nobody asks who was keeping track of storms back when the Spanish owned Florida, and when the French owned Louisiana, and when the US was at war with Britain twice (and with Spain). Use your common sense.  

Your political party has no useful purpose without causes and identity politics.  That is the only reason the Left exists.  Go travel and see the effects of Leftism today in other countries and educate yourself.  You guys claim the intellectual high ground too, right?  Prove it.  

It is laughable that I would even have to justify common sense to you people.  You would rather argue till you're blue in the face than gain one iota of common sense.

[JFW657]

1 hour ago, spenser1058 said:

Lol - I bet you think the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea is a democracy, too (you remember them, your hero Cheetohead has a bromance going with Kim Jong Il).

I can’t decide whether I should recommend a good therapist or a competent world history teacher for you. I’ll get back to you.

 

1 hour ago, orange87 said:

That's a picture from the day Sandy Hook happened, and you say it "means nothing to you"? That speaks volumes, although I'm not surprised.

BTW, you asked for proof of climate change a couple days ago, and I gave it to you. You haven't responded to it yet.

I can't believe anybody is still wasting their time attempting to have rational conversations with obviously brainwashed Trump cultists. 

I just gave up on it. 

I figure I'd have better success going downtown and striking up a conversation with one of those street people who stand on the corner babbling and arguing with themselves.   

[spenser1058]

Well, I guess what I’m trying to figure out with folks like this is whether they actually believe this stuff (and since the topic constantly varies in any discussion, which part they actually believe), or if this is just another huge game for them and all that matters is winning. If the democracy is destroyed in the process, that would just be an oops! with collateral damage because they think it will all just reset at the end of the game. I have noticed the political rants are not dissimilar from the ones they give on college football, as if they were the same thing.

Edited October 21, 2022 by spenser1058

[JFW657]

1 minute ago, spenser1058 said:

What I guess what I’m trying to figure out with folks like this is whether they actually believe this stuff (and since the topic constantly varies in any discussion, which part they actually believe), or if this is just another huge game for them and all that matters is winning. If the democracy is destroyed in the process, that would just be an oops! with collateral damage because they think it will all just reset at the end of the game. I have noticed the political rants are not dissimilar from the ones they give on college football, as if they were the same thing.

I think part of it is the fun of trolling and "owning the libs".

Which is also a yuge part of Trump's appeal to his adherents.

Their main goal is to anger and upset the left, which they accomplish by electing the likes of Trump but also by making themselves look like buffoons.

Right-wingers look at themselves as being oh so very clever, which in turn makes them feel that they have this superior mental ability which enables them to bait liberals and get them upset by making the outrageous comments they're known for.

Or at east that's what they like to believe they're doing.

In reality they just make themselves look unhinged, low class and possessed of very low moral standards.  

[orange87]

13 hours ago, jrs2 said:

And as for climate, I saw a commercial today where they said this summer storm season was the worst in 20 years but was supposed to be the worst in 400 years.  Think of how stupid that sounds.  They just fart this stuff out every day like it's an undeniable fact yet nobody asks who was keeping track of storms back when the Spanish owned Florida, and when the French owned Louisiana, and when the US was at war with Britain twice (and with Spain). Use your common sense.  

What on Earth does this have to do with my explanation of climate change? Per your request, I gave you a brief explanation about climate change and provided supporting data, and you come back with "I saw a commercial..." You are willfully ignorant.

[jrs2]

13 hours ago, JFW657 said:

I think part of it is the fun of trolling and "owning the libs".

Which is also a yuge part of Trump's appeal to his adherents.

Their main goal is to anger and upset the left, which they accomplish by electing the likes of Trump but also by making themselves look like buffoons.

Right-wingers look at themselves as being oh so very clever, which in turn makes them feel that they have this superior mental ability which enables them to bait liberals and get them upset by making the outrageous comments they're known for.

Or at east that's what they like to believe they're doing.

In reality they just make themselves look unhinged, low class and possessed of very low moral standards.  

Well, trolling doesn’t exist in a politics sub forum.  And commenting on political issues, and history, last I checks doesn’t and shouldn’t evoke your commentary on the subject above.  I think at the heart of the issue is that the Left doesn’t and didn’t expect to be intellectually challenged on anything.  And when they lose on logic, like they always do, they just continue with character attacks.  Bravo!

[jrs2]

1 minute ago, orange87 said:

What on Earth does this have to do with my explanation of climate change? Per your request, I gave you a brief explanation about climate change and provided supporting data, and you come back with "I saw a commercial..." You are willfully ignorant.

 My bad.

What do you want me to tell you about your “supporting data”  etc?  I wasn’t there, I didn’t compile the data myself, I didn’t verify it, so what am I supposed to say to it, when one political party or corporate interests rely on it to push their agenda that they claim is some moralistic crusade while at the same time the Elite in the industries that benefit from it make out like bandits?

Just think about the statement “the data shows…”. Just by saying that, a false presumption of fact is created and then everyone expends energy trying to meet some burden of proof to prove it wrong, when it was never even proven right to begin with; no matter what the issue is.  But people believe it simply because of how it was presented to them.

It’s like Windows 11…literally forcing everyone to upgrade even 2-3 yo gaming machines, mind you, with better hardware, because the “hardware” isn’t up to spec.  well, they made it to be not up to spec so that they can force you to buy new hardware.  Same with cell phones.  It’s business.  With this climate BS, they use “data” and morality to get you to listen, then they shut down local industries to make it easier to push new tech on everyone.  The power companies get you to take out a second mortgage for solar panels on your roof, and you don’t get paid back power or have the benefit of self sufficiency unless you buy the battery power wall, requiring a mortgage as well.   And solar puts money in the pockets of the power companies (as usual), the big banks (as usual), and foreign companies that manufacture the hardware.  

And it’s all made easier when you are climate shaming people.  They sit back and laugh because it is free marketing for them.  Do you really want to be somebody’s stooge?

There is a cause and effect for everything.  And this is a big money making scheme shrouded in good intentions.

[spenser1058]

“…(P)rogress comes when Americans recognize that all, not just some, possess common rights and are due common respect.” 

- Jon Meacham, “And There was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle” (2022, Random House)

An interesting thought to come from a biography of the first American president of the political party that seems to have forgotten such a concept exists…

Edited October 23, 2022 by spenser1058

[jrs2]

21 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

“…(P)rogress comes when Americans recognize that all, not just some, possess common rights and are due common respect.” 

- Jon Meacham, “And There was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle” (2022, Random House)

An interesting thought to come from a biography of the first American president of the political party that seems to have forgotten such a concept exists…

common respect goes both ways.

Up until now, these threads have been nothing but finger pointing and name calling against the Right, the Center, and anyone that supports them, which shows anything but common respect. It is a one way Leftist street.

And the reason I keep saying "Leftist" is because that is what you all are.  And why is that important?  Because you all parade like you are centrists.  How do I know this?  Because you view the mere concept as civic pride or national pride as a Right wing phenomenon.  Seriously?  In what reality is that a Right wing phenomenon?  A country exists, does it not?  Yes, so how is national pride a Right wing phenomenon?  And who is labeling it that?  Leftists that hate this country or the political system or anyone that is not Leftist.

At least the Socialist Canadians hang the Canadian flag from their office windows in tall office buildings.  Do that here and they'll vandalize your property, call you a racist and Trump wackadoodle.

[orange87]

I know I speak for everyone on this forum when I say that we hope Michelle Obama is our next President after Joe Biden. She's classy, intelligent, and a natural born leader.

[spenser1058]

Sadly, she has always hated politics and has no desire to run. Besides, after Joe, it’s gonna be Secretary Mayor Pete!

[orange87]

"Nationally, Democrats are far outpacing Republicans in the early vote so far, according to TargetSmart, a voter analysis firm. Democrats have cast 55% of early ballots so far, compared to 34.5% early ballots by GOP voters and 10.4% for unaffiliated voters."

Article: https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2022-10-24/democrats-have-edge-in-early-voting

[JFW657]

Could next Tuesday really mark the beginning of the end of Democracy in America? 

In a couple of years when the Reich-wing Trumpublicans forcefully and finally seize permanent control of the government, and all non-Republican political party affiliations are either outlawed or rendered meaningless via manipulation of the system, and after the QAnon affiliated Christian Nationalist ayatollahs begin to force their beliefs on the rest of us under threat of some form of sanctions, we won't be able to say that we weren't warned. 

 

Buh bye 'Murica.....  

[aent]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

In a couple of years when the Reich-wing Trumpublicans forcefully and finally seize permanent control of the government, and all non-Republican political party affiliations are either outlawed or rendered meaningless via manipulation of the system, and after the QAnon affiliated Christian Nationalist ayatollahs begin to force their beliefs on the rest of us under threat of some form of sanctions, we won't be able to say that we weren't warned. 

 

Biden and his cronies are the ones who have literally been arresting their political opponents over the past couple years, investigating Trump, trying to impeach him over and over again, and arresting his supporters without actually giving them charges and due process, saying its too dangerous to allow his political opponents to have free speech, and we're supposed to believe that the Republicans are the ones who are gonna outlaw the other side? Give me a break.

Edited November 5, 2022 by aent

[JFW657]

11 minutes ago, aent said:

Biden and his cronies are the ones who have literally been arresting their political opponents over the past couple years, investigating Trump, trying to impeach him over and over again, and arresting his supporters without actually giving them charges and due process, saying its too dangerous to allow his political opponents to have free speech, and we're supposed to believe that the Republicans are the ones who are gonna outlaw the other side? Give me a break

100% Mierda ^^^^^.

To say there is a mountain of evidence against Trump and his cronies would be a gross understatement.

There is an entire MOUNTAIN RANGE of evidence against Trump, his J6 co-conspirators and their fellow treasonous, traitor criminals.  

There has never been such a volume of damning and compelling evidence against a high level government official in history.

But of course, you being such a staunch supporter of those traitors, criminals and the treasonous, criminal acts they committed, I would not expect you to admit or acknowledge any of it. 

Lie and deny.

The Trumpublican game plan.

It is what it is.   

[orange87]

7 minutes ago, JFW657 said:

100% Mierda ^^^^^.

To say there is a mountain of evidence against Trump and his cronies would be a gross understatement.

There is an entire MOUNTAIN RANGE of evidence against Trump, his J6 co-conspirators and their fellow treasonous, traitor criminals.  

There has never been such a volume of damning and compelling evidence against a high level government official in history.

But of course, you being such a staunch supporter of those traitors, criminals and the treasonous, criminal acts they committed, I would not expect you to admit or acknowledge any of it. 

Lie and deny.

The Trumpublican game plan.

It is what it is.   

If Trump inciting a coup attempt carried out by his supporters doesn't open someone's eyes, then nothing will. At this point, they can't be reasoned with. The only option is to politically defeat them and uphold our nation's laws. Just keep arresting them when they break the law. Keep defeating them at the ballot box. Keep stopping their poison/propaganda from being spread. Just like Hitler is long gone and Naziism is essentially dead. Trump, nearly 80, won't be around for much longer, and the MAGA movement will fade away too. The same useful idiots with fascistic tendencies will always exist until the next dictator rises to lead them. Every fascist dictator failed, and we'll make sure their losing streak continues.

[JFW657]

39 minutes ago, orange87 said:

If Trump inciting a coup attempt carried out by his supporters doesn't open someone's eyes, then nothing will. At this point, they can't be reasoned with. The only option is to politically defeat them and uphold our nation's laws. Just keep arresting them when they break the law. Keep defeating them at the ballot box. Keep stopping their poison/propaganda from being spread. Just like Hitler is long gone and Naziism is essentially dead. Trump, nearly 80, won't be around for much longer, and the MAGA movement will fade away too. The same useful idiots with fascistic tendencies will always exist until the next dictator rises to lead them. Every fascist dictator failed, and we'll make sure their losing streak continues.

Well, I hope you're right, but I have my doubts.

IDK if you watched the Bill Maher video or not, but if the 300 Trumper election deniers currently running get elected, they'll never certify another Democrat win . Then they'll appoint more Trumper election deniers in key positions to continue the Republican lock on power into perpetuity. And even after Trump is gone, there will be others as bad or maybe even worse. 

The Wisconsin Republican Gubernatorial candidate has stated that if he's elected, no Republican will ever lose another election there.

These are truly frightening times.  

[jrs2]

3 hours ago, orange87 said:

If Trump inciting a coup attempt carried out by his supporters doesn't open someone's eyes, then nothing will. At this point, they can't be reasoned with. The only option is to politically defeat them and uphold our nation's laws. Just keep arresting them when they break the law. Keep defeating them at the ballot box. Keep stopping their poison/propaganda from being spread. Just like Hitler is long gone and Naziism is essentially dead. Trump, nearly 80, won't be around for much longer, and the MAGA movement will fade away too. The same useful idiots with fascistic tendencies will always exist until the next dictator rises to lead them. Every fascist dictator failed, and we'll make sure their losing streak continues.

Spoken like a true Leftist.  Not a Democrap, rather, a true leftist. Useful idiots?  Roll up your sleave and take another booster.  Put on a mask while driving.  Put money in china's pocket while going green.  Cut another check to Paris.  Pay for illegal immigrants' Medicaid while US citizens can't afford affordable healthcare.  Brainwash third graders.  Brainwash college students.  Seek the comfort of your echo chamber because society rejects your anti-societal policies.  

Fascist tendencies?  Ah, so you must also be a  censorship denier too, huh?  Twitter, Facebook, etc.  You cannot hide the facts.  You can ignore them, but I'll make sure everyone is reminded of them.

Maybe you need to take your head out of your a55 and watch the video.  FYI, every time I see a new reference to an insurrection I am going to post this video...again...again...and... again.

While you're upholding the nation's laws, start by arresting Hillary.

And I wouldn't worry about the election. You guys are pros at ballot stuffing, rigging elections, having dead people vote, having unidentified people vote multiple times, pay for play with illegals, and then trying to overthrow the existing system of elections.

I think I'm gonna repost that Malcom X video again...

[JFW657]

Anyone who'd take seriously a word that comes out of the fat, lying gob of Ted Spews, needs their head examined.

Of course, if a doctor shined a flashlight in said person's ear, the light would pass right through anyway so, waste of time,

But back to Ted Spews.... he is a lying piece of "mierda" as they say in his home state.

The same home state he got on a plane and left for Cancun, Mexico from, as that state and his constituents were freezing their rear ends off due to a power grid failure in the freezing cold of February, 2021, rather than stay home and at least look like he was trying to do something. . 

Yeah, right.

Like I'm gonna listen to anything that scumbag has to say.