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2021 INFRA Grants (the grants formerly known as TIGER (and BUILD))


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I hope that folks with CATS & CDOT know about this.  I wonder if this could also be used to help fund not only the Greenways but also the Rail Trail Bridge over I-277 and the Publix Station Construction on the Blue Line or better yet - expanding the existing Blue-Line Stations to fit Three (3) Car Trains.

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Greenways as transit routes would be great. Would the new Park and Ride stations up 77 express route be eligible? I wonder if some quick hit projects like that up North could lead to more support from the north towns for the overall transit plan. 

And is the cross Charlotte trail bridge over Independence dead? I know they applied for the TIGER grant in the past with that cool design.

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12 hours ago, jjwilli said:

And is the cross Charlotte trail bridge over Independence dead? I know they applied for the TIGER grant in the past with that cool design.

The separated greenway bridge is dead. They are connecting it along 10th street and it will cross Independence on the Central Ave. bridge. Should be done later this year!

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Pages/XCLT7thto10th.asp

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If the city is going to continue building bike lanes separated by plastic bollards on busy roads they need to figure out a way to keep cars from running them over and leaving the lanes totally in disrepair. The plaza bike lane is constantly covered in filth and the E 12th street bike lane is almost always unusable. They need a more permanent solution. 

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Press release says prioritized funding to rural areas and improving local economies to create jobs. Looking through the list of winners, almost all of the dollars are going to coastal and inland port improvements, interstates, and critical bridges at the end of their useful life. There were two projects that are corridor "improvements." Nothing like a greenway won money. Very little to bikes either. Mainly big commerce.

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48 minutes ago, jjwilli said:

The least they could do is submit a few greenway projects, right? Not sure how “transformative” these projects need to be but I’d love to see the Irwin Creek Greenway gap from West Blvd to Wesley Heights completed. 

Just guessing but I suspect that individual greenways proposals probably won’t get much attention, but efforts to build connections which will create bike and ped networks / commuter routes will do much better.

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As someone who has worked in transportation planning for a long time, one thing that is an unspoken rule about the federal government has about discretionary grants is that they don't give one area multiple ones in a short time. Charlotte has been awarded 2 discretionary grants already in the past 12 months both going to CATS (1 for the CTC redevelopment and mixed use towers and another for furthering BRT planning across the CATS service area footprint). Another consequence of the Charlotte area planning is nearly all of the major regional transportation planning are controlled by the City of Charlotte instead of actual independent, regional transportation planning entities (a regional transit authority and an independent metropolitan planning organization) with responsibilities separate from the auspices of the COC City Council's political influence.  Unfortunately, the federal government seems to see that everything locally until things changes as all the City of Charlotte in paper as the applicant as the sole applicant. This notion adds to this bias of not wanting to award multiple discretionary grants to the entity, the City of Charlotte, in this case. 

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As someone who has worked in transportation planning for a long time, one thing that is an unspoken rule about the federal government has about discretionary grants is that they don't give one area multiple ones in a short time. Charlotte has been awarded 2 discretionary grants already in the past 12 months both going to CATS (1 for the CTC redevelopment and mixed use towers and another for furthering BRT planning across the CATS service area footprint). Another consequence of the Charlotte area planning is nearly all of the major regional transportation planning are controlled by the City of Charlotte instead of actual independent, regional transportation planning entities (a regional transit authority and an independent metropolitan planning organization) with responsibilities separate from the auspices of the COC City Council's political influence.  Unfortunately, the federal government seems to see that everything locally until things changes as all the City of Charlotte in paper as the applicant as the sole applicant. This notion adds to this bias of not wanting to award multiple discretionary grants to the entity, the City of Charlotte, in this case. 

Don’t see how them (CATS) being separated from COC would change the fact that it would help them get more grants. Unless you mean CATS should become an Metro transportation authority with operations in most of the metro cities and towns. Then isn’t that still giving one area multiple grants in short span anyways? Simply because it’s not directly to a city and instead a separate authority presiding over a larger area.
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6 hours ago, CarolinaDaydreamin said:

Atlanta metro got 2 $25m projects. It helps when you have 2 forward thinking senators (doesn't hurt to be in the presidents party, or the two who decided the majority admittedly), but once again NC doesn't prioritize CLT. 

DC region got several totaling $60M. In addition to the $50M awarded in July for Dulles airport terminal expansion. 
 

I think you’re right on N.C. not prioritizing Charlotte. Which is sort of evident from the first round of Infrastructure bill funding. And even then, it seems like the majority of money is simply going to highway and bridges. If you follow Buttigieg, he’s said many times they’re prioritizing projects that can get enough federal $’s to start transformative projects that are sustainable, equitable green and rebuilds neighborhoods that were cut off by highways. 

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8 hours ago, JeanClt said:


Don’t see how them (CATS) being separated from COC would change the fact that it would help them get more grants. Unless you mean CATS should become an Metro transportation authority with operations in most of the metro cities and towns. Then isn’t that still giving one area multiple grants in short span anyways? Simply because it’s not directly to a city and instead a separate authority presiding over a larger area.

Huh?

There would because CATS or a regional public transit would be an ACTUAL, independent, metropolitan transit authority not an entity of the City of Charlotte (COC).  

The reason why many of things are stagnant outside of the COC is because the COC wants to control everything with little to not regard to outside input.

If you want more highly competitive proposals then we must get more regional buy-in possibly multiple local funding sources from the surrounding counties, and even possibly the 2 South Carolina counties (York and Lancaster). Furthermore, the federal government looks at the competitiveness of discretionary grants applications by the ability to pool together regional resources of funding to elevate and the level of regional impact rather than looking like one jurisdiction is doing everything for itself.

Regionalism is key to be more competitive for Charlotte with discretionary grants.

 

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12 hours ago, AirNostrumMAD said:

DC region got several totaling $60M. In addition to the $50M awarded in July for Dulles airport terminal expansion. 
 

I think you’re right on N.C. not prioritizing Charlotte. Which is sort of evident from the first round of Infrastructure bill funding. And even then, it seems like the majority of money is simply going to highway and bridges. If you follow Buttigieg, he’s said many times they’re prioritizing projects that can get enough federal $’s to start transformative projects that are sustainable, equitable green and rebuilds neighborhoods that were cut off by highways. 

Yeah, NC (because of the NCGOP-led,  General Assembly) doesn't want to support an increasingly racially diverse, growing place like Charlotte. It doesn't fit their narrative nor base of support. 

18 hours ago, CarolinaDaydreamin said:

Atlanta metro got 2 $25m projects. It helps when you have 2 forward thinking senators (doesn't hurt to be in the presidents party, or the two who decided the majority admittedly), but once again NC doesn't prioritize CLT. 

Actually, the Atlanta area only got one (the one for the Five Points MARTA transit station).  Athens is apart of the Atlanta CSA, & basically what Hickory is to Charlotte.  The Athens project is a complete streets project. 

Fun fact: the many discretionary grant funded projects awarded to the Atlanta area in the past 4 years were the MARTA Clayton County BRT study and the MARTA Summerhill BRT project. 

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44 minutes ago, kayman said:

Huh?

There would because CATS or a regional public transit would be an ACTUAL, independent, metropolitan transit authority not an entity of the City of Charlotte (COC).  

The reason why many of things are stagnant outside of the COC is because the COC wants to control everything with little to not regard to outside input.

If you want more highly competitive proposals then we must get more regional buy-in possibly multiple local funding sources from the surrounding counties, and even possibly the 2 South Carolina counties (York and Lancaster). Furthermore, the federal government looks at the competitiveness of discretionary grants applications by the ability to pool together regional resources of funding to elevate and the level of regional impact rather than looking like one jurisdiction is doing everything for itself.

Regionalism is key to be more competitive.

 

To be fair, the surrounding counties are so red and there is a lot of contention, I think, with some surrounding counties and Mecklenburg. The politics don't mesh well with Charlotte.  Particularly we saw this flair up when GOP had their redistribution of wealth bill that pit Meck versus the surrounding counties. Or the Airport Authority drama. Unfortunately mass transit & sustainability is a partisan issue in most places. 

If Mecklenburg had the neighbors that Wake does, regional cooperation would work better probably. Metrolina is way more blue-collar red than the Triangle which is fairly liberal.

 

Edit: And agreed to your last post.

 

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