Pearl District - Atrium/Wake Forest School of Medicine

[Reverie39]

On 12/2/2022 at 5:32 PM, SydneyCarton said:

They should go back to CMC.  I liked that, and it reflects the region.

Two of my kids were born there, so I quite like it.

They should've taken the opportunity while Christian McCaffrey was still in town.

[Hushpuppy321]

Atrium seems to have filed for Building Permits for the 12 Story Patient Bed Tower.  Once completed it could make this location the Largest Hospital (by Licensed Patient Beds) in the State by 2027.  I’ve attached an overhead Map of where the Construction Site will be.

[DMann]

Did they tear down that decrepit parking lot next to the main entrance one that has all the parking spaces designed to house in 1952 Nash rambler I will say hallelujah!

[Reverie39]

14 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Atrium seems to have filed for Building Permits for the 12 Story Patient Bed Tower.  Once completed it could make this location the Largest Hospital (by Licensed Patient Beds) in the State by 2027.  I’ve attached an overhead Map of where the Construction Site will be.

Curious, what is the largest currently? WakeMed?

[#1Son]

9 minutes ago, Reverie39 said:

Curious, what is the largest currently? WakeMed?

Top ten largest hospitals in North Carolina by bed size in 2021 (hospitalmanagement.net)

Duke University Hospital as of 2021 

[Hushpuppy321]

On 12/13/2022 at 12:29 PM, Reverie39 said:

Curious, what is the largest currently? WakeMed?

Yep Duke it is.  Atrium will be the largest by several hundred Licensed Beds (2027) if Duke doesn’t implement any large expansion plans themselves.  I don’t foresee that since both WakeMed & UNC Hospitals have the Triangle region blanketed with Level 1 Trauma Care and a ton of other Specialties.  The Charlotte Metro only has One (1) Level 1 Trauma Hospital which covers the entirety of the Western half of North Carolina along with Baptist Hospital in W-S.

Edited December 14, 2022 by Hushpuppy321

[kermit]

CBJ reports groundbreaking for the Pearl was today and the first med school class will enroll in 2024.

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2023/01/17/med-school-innovation-district-groundbreaking.html

The story also features one of the worst Charlotte-specific typos I have ever seen. I have screenshotted it for posterity. OOPS! (Dollar General is not the company that Levine  sold to Dollar Tree for $9.5 billion)

Edited January 18, 2023 by kermit

[atlrvr]

Looks like the "final" version is different than any other version for the taller tower.  Not quite as unique as the initial version, but better than the subsequent 2 versions we've seen IMO.

 

 

[drawscape]

4 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

Looks like the "final" version is different than any other version for the taller tower.  Not quite as unique as the initial version, but better than the subsequent 2 versions we've seen IMO.

 

 

Wow, looks like Morehead is going to be completely transformed into a canyon of 10 story buildings 

[CLT2014]

Very cool transformation. I hope CATS is planning a large enhancement in bus service to what will be a major employment center and destination for patients between the Pearl and the CMC Hospital Campus. We will need buses running every 10 - 15 minutes to the East / West light rail stop for commuters heading south, to the CTC for commuters heading north, to the McDowell Gold Line stop, and Express Buses to South Park, the future Silver Line, down Providence Road, to East Charlotte, et.... otherwise this is going to be an area choked in traffic. It doesn't need to be that way if CATS figures out how to connect it to the rail system....  but 30 minute or 1 hour bus frequencies only to the CTC won't cut it. People will just drive.... and the road infrastructure over there can't take much more. 

Edited January 18, 2023 by CLT2014

[Madison Parkitect]

1 hour ago, CLT2014 said:

I hope CATS is planning a large enhancement in bus service

LOL

[videtur quam contuor]

Atrium will start their own service and connect everywhere that is needed. Including to CATS lines and stops.  They will show what passenger responsive transportation can be.

[kermit]

On 1/18/2023 at 1:52 PM, tarhoosier said:

Atrium will start their own service and connect everywhere that is needed. Including to CATS lines and stops.  They will show what passenger responsive transportation can be.

at this point I would not be surprised to see Atrium talk the city into a gondola from their campus to Stonewall station (just like at OHSU). Of course they could  just remove ##$%#!! 277 and largely solve the transit problem.

Edited January 21, 2023 by kermit

[CLT2014]

45 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

Atrium will start their own service and connect everywhere that is needed. Including to CATS lines and stops.  They will show what passenger responsive transportation can be.

"Welcome to the City of Charlotte, sponsored by Atrium Health." 
The Advocate / Atrium Health Board of Directors becomes the new city council with Gene Woods as Mayor. 

[Matthew.Brendan]

1 hour ago, kermit said:

at this point I would not be surprised to see Atrium talk the city into a gondola from their campus to Stonewall station. Just remove ##$%#!! 277 for god's sake!

[Reverie39]

On 1/18/2023 at 11:23 AM, atlrvr said:

Looks like the "final" version is different than any other version for the taller tower.  Not quite as unique as the initial version, but better than the subsequent 2 versions we've seen IMO.

 

 

This is stunning. Looks similar to some very upscale neighborhoods I have been to in larger cities.

[carolinaboy]

On 1/20/2023 at 1:05 PM, Reverie39 said:

This is stunning. Looks similar to some very upscale neighborhoods I have been to in larger cities.

If the final product is anything like the two buildings are shown in the video that will be amazing. Very beautiful buildings.

[RANYC]

Every time I get irritated by decisions made by the City and Council, I think back on public funding for this research & innovation project, and I feel an incredible amount of grace. 

Jacksonville, FL just approved $130 million in incentives for a new Four Seasons Hotel and Office Building on the city's waterfront, built by the owner of the Jaguars.  Total project value is $320 million.  

Between Charlotte Council & Meck County Commission, $75 million in public funds were given to a $1.5 billion research and innovation district.  Just strikes me as such a starkly superior set of priorities here, even though I know we're not necessarily above publicly funding something similar to what Jacksonville is funding, but I'll bask in the glow of our current priority for the time being.

Edited January 23, 2023 by RANYC

[tozmervo]

1 minute ago, RANYC said:

Every time I get irritated by decisions made by the City and Council, I think back on public funding for this research & innovation project, and I feel an incredible amount of grace. 

Jacksonville, FL just approved $130 million in incentives for a new Four Seasons Hotel and Office Building on the city's waterfront, built by the founder of the Jaguars.  Total project value is $320 million.  

Between Charlotte Council & Meck County Commission, $75 million in public funds were given to a $1.5 billion research and innovation district.  Just strikes me as such starkly superior set of priorities here, even though I know we're not necessarily above publicly funding something similar to what Jacksonville is funding, but I'll bask in the glow of our current priority for the time being.

I'm surprised Four Seasons would diminish their brand like that.

[kermit]

19 hours ago, tozmervo said:

I'm surprised Four Seasons would diminish their brand like that.

White Lotus Duval!

Wealthy European hotel guests are in town to enjoy the spectacle of the Georgia-Florida game (the White Lotus corp marketed the game in Europe as "Florida's Octoberfest") when one of them gets mysteriously run over by a speeding Camero (with T-tops)  when riding a rented moped to see the new subdivision were the Skynyrd Hell House once was in Green Cove Springs.

 

Edited January 24, 2023 by kermit

[tozmervo]

For all those with confused reacts: we are taking cheap potshots at Jacksonville. 

[CLT2014]

4 hours ago, tozmervo said:

I'm surprised Four Seasons would diminish their brand like that.

Four Seasons has so far refused to say they are associated with the project and won't confirm their name will be on it. The government subsidies include clawbacks if the developers don't manage to land a 4 or 5 star brand, but there is a risk Four Seasons doesn't sign on the dotted line with the developers and they end up with a 4 star Westin. 

[RANYC]

6 minutes ago, CLT2014 said:

Four Seasons has so far refused to say they are associated with the project and won't confirm their name will be on it. The government subsidies include clawbacks if the developers don't manage to land a 4 or 5 star brand, but there is a risk Four Seasons doesn't sign on the dotted line with the developers and they end up with a 4 star Westin. 

Sort of like reserving hotel rooms on Hotwire.  You bid on a certain caliber of hotel at an unbelievable rate, then commit and purchase and end up with whatever they have in inventory.

[videtur quam contuor]

30 years ago when the Panthers and Jerry Richardson were petitioning the NFL for our football team there were several other bidders for a team. Jacksonville was one of them. Also Memphis, St Louis and Baltimore. There were other less serious bidders and Jacksonville was considered to be better placed in that "less serious" class. The decision was to be announced on a certain day and on that date Charlotte was chosen but there was a delay on the other franchise. The remaining cities refreshed their offers. Some time later the final announcement came: Jacksonville. The overwhelming response was "WHAA?." I have no gif to express how incomprehensible that announcement was, both here, where we safely had our franchise, as well as elsewhere. That general response has been justified over time.

This is but one of the many reports from that time which has some information about the cities under consideration.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-10-17-sp-46673-story.html

[TheOneRJ]

53 minutes ago, CLT2014 said:

Four Seasons has so far refused to say they are associated with the project and won't confirm their name will be on it. The government subsidies include clawbacks if the developers don't manage to land a 4 or 5 star brand, but there is a risk Four Seasons doesn't sign on the dotted line with the developers and they end up with a 4 star Westin. 

It sounds like Four Seasons has already signed the contract and is just keeping quiet yet still no signs of a Charlotte hotel.