Prediction & Speculation Thread

[Luvemtall]

Agree, both should be held accountable. And I truly believe Murfreesboro/ Rutherford is definitely prime for relocations and new high rise development. But , I do not count Wilson out completely. Sooner or later the old establishment will be replaced and new faces will bring be ideas and hopefully new development to Lebanon/ Wilson County.

[downtownresident]

As far as 20 story outside the 440 loop, I could see one in Green Hills, or maybe the Elm Hill Pike area out by the former Bridgestone building. Maybe Metrocenter, or along the downtown loop next to Dickerson near the Oracle campus.

I think our only shot of a 20+ story tower outside of Davidson Co is in Williamson Co, and it won't be any time soon. I could see a 20+ being built as the old sea of parking is slowly redeveloped along Carothers Pkwy. 

My predictions:

- We see at least two new tallest(over 617') announcements by the end of the year, with one starting construction in late 2022/early 2023. Both of these will be in the general Nashville Yards area, with an outside shot at one of the empty lots along KVB.

- The Ritz Carlton main tower will be at least 600' tall, with an outside shot at being taller than 617'.

- We will have 45 cranes up in Davidson County at the end of 2022.

- We will land at least 1 500+ job relocation by Q2 2022. 

- We will see at least 2 new multi-tower announcements before the end of the year. 

[smeagolsfree]

15 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

As far as 20 story outside the 440 loop, I could see one in Green Hills, or maybe the Elm Hill Pike area out by the former Bridgestone building. Maybe Metrocenter, or along the downtown loop next to Dickerson near the Oracle campus.

I think our only shot of a 20+ story tower outside of Davidson Co is in Williamson Co, and it won't be any time soon. I could see a 20+ being built as the old sea of parking is slowly redeveloped along Carothers Pkwy. 

My predictions:

- We see at least two new tallest(over 617') announcements by the end of the year, with one starting construction in late 2022/early 2023. Both of these will be in the general Nashville Yards area, with an outside shot at one of the empty lots along KVB.

- The Ritz Carlton main tower will be at least 600' tall, with an outside shot at being taller than 617'.

- We will have 45 cranes up in Davidson County at the end of 2022.

- We will land at least 1 500+ job relocation by Q2 2022. 

- We will see at least 2 new multi-tower announcements before the end of the year. 

I am in on all of the above predictions, but I will raise you one on the multi-tower development and say 3.

[donNdonelson2]

There is a large parcel of land near the airport, north of I-40 between Donelson Pike & Stewart’s Ferry Pike, dubbed Buchanan Point. It’s development has languished for nearly a decade. Any chance it could finally see some movement as other “near Nashville” sites become more scarce? I’m sure it being in an airport takeoff zone would limit height on at least a portion of the site. Any rumors floating out there? Speculation welcome! Factual information would be nice, too. Could there be a 20 story future over there?

photo from Matthew’s Company website

Edited August 10, 2021 by donNdonelson2
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[smeagolsfree]

There is already a little movement on that front. I saw some permits or some other type of Metro docs for those parcels not long ago that makes me think The Mathews Cos.are trying to breath new life back into this project. I think the timing may be a little better now.

Not much I don’t have my nose stuck into.

[Mr_Bond]

7 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

They came within 2 floors of the with Vertis and will be within 3 with Eden House, but the two remaining parcels on that block ae zoned for 15. It could happen but I don't think so. It would take a change of minds adn hearts in that neighborhood. Probably have to be a high-rise full of retired nuns or something like that.

 

It was samsonh that suggested Green Hills.  My guess is Metro Center, sans nuns.  I want everyone to know where I put my money in case I'm correct and win the office pool.  

Edited August 10, 2021 by Mr_Bond

[Hey_Hey]

I agree with Green Hills as the most likely, but I would also add the Harding Pike/White Bridge-Woodmont area as another contender. Rents there can support a high end development, and there’s already some mid rises in that area. 
 

I would also agree with Wilco being the most likely, although I think downtown Franklin is the more likely place inside Williamson. There’s not much of a reason at this point to build over 20 stories in Cool Springs, but I think there is a good reason to do it downtown. 

[smeagolsfree]

I will also say that downtownresident may get a hold of my magic 8 ball from time to time and may be learning the craft of building his own crystal ball. He will be getting a few more lessons in the craft of predictions soon.

[donNdonelson2]

On 8/9/2021 at 8:42 PM, downtownresident said:

 

As far as 20 story outside the 440 loop, I could see one in Green Hills, or maybe the Elm Hill Pike area out by the former Bridgestone building. Maybe Metrocenter, or along the downtown loop next to Dickerson near the Oracle campus.

 

Near the former Bridgestone building at I-40 and Elm Hill Pike might be a great guess for a 20+ floor tower. The Sonesta Nashville Airport (formerly the Marriott) is cited as 18 floors on their website. (There’s some possibility that they’re skipping #13 as hotels often do, so it might really be only 17 floors.) But an additional two or three floors in this vicinity shouldn’t be problematic.

[smeagolsfree]

If the Rutledge Hill announcement could be classified a 6.5 on the Richter scale, then I will say there was also a 4.0 this morning too I cant say anything about just yet, maybe later this week.

So the rumblings under the volcano are starting to increase.

[Armacing]

On 8/9/2021 at 4:20 AM, titanhog said:

They really need to build some more “exclusive” residences in Rutherford County, though.  More in the $2 Million+ range.

I'm sure Rutherford County officials would love for that type of development to occur, but Williamson County dominates that category.  

[titanhog]

56 minutes ago, Armacing said:

I'm sure Rutherford County officials would love for that type of development to occur, but Williamson County dominates that category.  

Yeah…and that’s the main reason Rutherford doesn’t yet attract any major relocations on the corporate side.  I think they could in the future, but only after Williamson “fills up”.

[satalac]

11 minutes ago, titanhog said:

Yeah…and that’s the main reason Rutherford doesn’t yet attract any major relocations on the corporate side.  I think they could in the future, but only after Williamson “fills up”.

I think the other part of it is that planners in Williamson Co were much better at planning than Rutherford Co. I've never gotten the feeling that anywhere in Rutherford County is really planned, just more of a spur of the moment thing. The Medical Center area is as close as it's gotten to have felt planned, and it's still a hodge podge of strip malls and hotels. 

[titanhog]

39 minutes ago, satalac said:

I think the other part of it is that planners in Williamson Co were much better at planning than Rutherford Co. I've never gotten the feeling that anywhere in Rutherford County is really planned, just more of a spur of the moment thing. The Medical Center area is as close as it's gotten to have felt planned, and it's still a hodge podge of strip malls and hotels. 

Totally agree!

[tragenvol]

On 8/11/2021 at 12:01 PM, smeagolsfree said:

If the Rutledge Hill announcement could be classified a 6.5 on the Richter scale, then I will say there was also a 4.0 this morning too I cant say anything about just yet, maybe later this week.

So the rumblings under the volcano are starting to increase.

Hensler site?

Edited August 12, 2021 by tragenvol

[smeagolsfree]

The crystal ball will reveal soon!!!

[smeagolsfree]

All I will say is there are some Easter Eggs on the map and you folks have to find them.. Taylor you cant help, but you can go look for one I didnt tell you about. This is something I had speculated about several weeks ago and low and behold the developer blood in me may strike gold.

If you find these lets just keep it on the board.

[Mr_Bond]

There are two blue blocks on top of the surface parking lot at 1201 Laurel and 1211 Laurel.  Are those new?  They are blue = "proposed" but there's been no water/sewer permit pulled, has there?

[smeagolsfree]

Those are not new, but a water sewer permit was pulled early in 2020 I think for 1211 for 236 units Market Street again. No they are not forthcoming on anything.

 

The reason they are both blue is they do have eventual plans for everything they own.

I will say you are getting warm!

[Mr_Bond]

@smeagolsfree, I found one!  I think.  "something may be up"  Am I right?  Can I say where it is?

Edited August 15, 2021 by Mr_Bond

[smeagolsfree]

Oh give the man a golden Egg.

That one could be bigger and more parcels than I thought too.

Keep looking

[Mr_Bond]

2 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

Oh give the man a golden Egg.

That one could be bigger and more parcels than I thought too.

I won't say where I found it so that others can enjoy the game.  Is there more than one Easter Egg?

[smeagolsfree]

There are three!

[Luvemtall]

1 hour ago, Mr_Bond said:

@smeagolsfree, I found one!  I think.  "something may be up"  Am I right?  Can I say where it is?

Might that be near a popular eating establishment, across from a two tower project that includes a rehabilitation of a old 4 story building? 

[smeagolsfree]

Yeh, I think you found one. That one may mean a sale, which means a project. Recent surveying done for property boundaries. The corner next to it is owned by a major land holder in the area.