Queensbridge Collective - 1 tower, maybe 2

[KJHburg]

I  suspect they have a tenant in mind.  The company itself said some of its national clients are leading it here.  Hmmm   Bank of America is one of their clients in Chicago.   But could be a relo looking for an urban location from a very suburban small town in the northeast or somebody from out west in a very high cost market.   Lots of possibilities but I do believe they have some people in mind.   40 plus stories for office I am hearing.  800K min. so said the company.   Yes 2024 for the first tower likely the office which even more tells me they have an anchor they are talking to NOW.  

speaking of the Riverside site here are some Before photos hard to imagine such tall buildings here.    No more little College St cut off which is fine. 

Edited November 5, 2021 by KJHburg

[Cadi40]

Oh for Christ sakes just say Wells Fargo 

Edited November 5, 2021 by Cadi40

[InSouthPark]

7 minutes ago, Cadi40 said:

Oh for Christ sakes just say Wells Fargo

If you say Wells Fargo 5 times into a mirror, a 600' skyscraper will appear. 

[TheRealClayton]

3 hours ago, RANYC said:

Cap or current Transit Plan?  Also, if a cap looks increasingly likely or doable, should we think about using funds for the rail-trail bridge in a different way?

nah, the cap wouldn't make it to the pedestrian bridge. It would likely be between Church and College, there are significant grade issues once you get to "The Francis" and Camden Grandview's Townhouses.

[RANYC]

1 hour ago, TheRealClayton said:

nah, the cap wouldn't make it to the pedestrian bridge. It would likely be between Church and College, there are significant grade issues once you get to "The Francis" and Camden Grandview's Townhouses.

 

1 hour ago, TheRealClayton said:

nah, the cap wouldn't make it to the pedestrian bridge. It would likely be between Church and College, there are significant grade issues once you get to "The Francis" and Camden Grandview's Townhouses.

bummer

Edited November 5, 2021 by RANYC

[CLT @❤️]

This link may have already been posted here? 
 

https://riversideid.com/news/union-station-tower-aka-bmo-tower-begins-ascent-n6ap5-28khy-jltj2-azwn8-dwczk-h2n2d-9xkeg-mc62h-4bdmf-ms245-dxasm-34dsr-fh367 

Edited November 5, 2021 by CLT @❤️

[kermit]

“Aka BMO”?

Did someone forget to take that out of the url?

[InTheYear2000]

48 minutes ago, kermit said:

“Aka BMO”?

Did someone forget to take that out of the url?

BMO Harris is the Chicago based US arm of Bank of Montreal. That would track given the developer's primary market. 

Edit: Also this Chicago project https://riversideid.com/portfolio/union-station-tower is named BMO Tower

Edited November 5, 2021 by InTheYear2000

[Blue_Devil]

Damn BMO Harris would make sense. 

[Guest]

No this is an incorrect url that is from the BMO Chicago project. Why would it reference a union station?

Edited November 5, 2021 by Guest

[MarcoPolo]

TheRealClayton is correct.  The CAP of I-277 will occur,  forever hiding from view (at least for the stretch in discussion) the abysmal design vomited upon the urban fabric of the State's largest city.  I mean, really....the section the NC State grades at the NCDOT produced for the JBelk is as rural in design as the hometowns in eastern NC from which they mostly hail.   The cap will be an act of redemption for everyone passionate about urbanism and place making.  

Alas, one fly in the ointment of the metropolitan minded is the portion of the Grandview townhome development along South Blvd that spills down grade at its rear, to hug the JBF a mere 50 ft or so from the exit lanes....and only 10 ft or so above the traffic they carry beyond the chain link fence and grass verge.   These would never have been permitted if attentive minds to the constant improvement of the City held more sway here.  The opportunity to reach across and heal the open wound stretching from just north of S. Church St, to just south of South Blvd (including an exit there more appropriate to its context), would be less "hairy" were it not for the 13 homeowners who now have a voice in the discussion, and we all know how that may potentially unfold.   Unless they can be "bought-out-right" some manner of compromised design will result.  And, long after the passion to save the little guy from the onslaught of progress flames out and the townhomes that fanned the flames succumb to the inevitable property value decline suffered from their awkward placement are demolished, the site they held will remain; an intruder reminding everyone of what could have been.

Better to just remove JBF in its entirety...from I-77 to Independence, and replace with an urban Boulevard, I say  

[KJHburg]

when you live in the big city live high enough to have your view never blocked or don't whine. I do think it is interesting the townhome resident was not complaining.  He faced a diner now will face tall high rises.  Dittos down at the coast for the ocean view.  

Mixed Views: South End neighbors unsure about new mixed-use development obstructing Uptown skyline (fox46.com)

Edited November 5, 2021 by KJHburg

[CLT2014]

10 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

when you live in the big city live high enough to have your view never blocked or don't whine. I do think it is interesting the townhome resident was not complaining.  He faced a diner now will face tall high rises.  Dittos down at the coast for the ocean view.  

Mixed Views: South End neighbors unsure about new mixed-use development obstructing Uptown skyline (fox46.com)

This person should just quit their job in journalism now for writing that headline.

Person that actually lives in townhome with view blocked: "“There was no way that view wouldn’t be blocked,” he said. “We knew at some point it was going to be blocked. We enjoyed it to this point, but it’s changing and we’ll see what it looks like when it’s done. It’s not the end all be all for being right here, though.”

Random person they interviewed walking down the street that does NOT live in the adjacent townhomes: “If I lived here, I’d be upset,” said Michael Cruso. “I wouldn’t want the skyline to be blocked. It’s one of the advantages— I wouldn’t be for that at all.”

So the article headline is based on one random person that doesn't even live in the adjacent homes?

How does that result in this article headline other than click bait? 

[RANYC]

2 minutes ago, CLT2014 said:

This person should just quit their job in journalism now for writing that headline.

Person that actually lives in townhome with view blocked: "“There was no way that view wouldn’t be blocked,” he said. “We knew at some point it was going to be blocked. We enjoyed it to this point, but it’s changing and we’ll see what it looks like when it’s done. It’s not the end all be all for being right here, though.”

Random person they interviewed walking down the street that does NOT live in the adjacent townhomes: “If I lived here, I’d be upset,” said Michael Cruso. “I wouldn’t want the skyline to be blocked. It’s one of the advantages— I wouldn’t be for that at all.”

So the article headline is based on one random person that doesn't even live in the adjacent homes?

How does that result in this article headline other than click bait? 

NIMBY by proxy?

[KJHburg]

5 hours ago, Cadi40 said:

Oh for Christ sakes just say Wells Fargo 

I would say if Wells moves it HQ here they will designate the current DEC which they own as their HQ.  They already have a signature tower that they own.  Especially since they are pushing Duke Energy out of the top of it.  

[CLT @❤️]

53 minutes ago, CLT2014 said:

This person should just quit their job in journalism now for writing that headline.

Person that actually lives in townhome with view blocked: "“There was no way that view wouldn’t be blocked,” he said. “We knew at some point it was going to be blocked. We enjoyed it to this point, but it’s changing and we’ll see what it looks like when it’s done. It’s not the end all be all for being right here, though.”

Random person they interviewed walking down the street that does NOT live in the adjacent townhomes: “If I lived here, I’d be upset,” said Michael Cruso. “I wouldn’t want the skyline to be blocked. It’s one of the advantages— I wouldn’t be for that at all.”

So the article headline is based on one random person that doesn't even live in the adjacent homes?

How does that result in this article headline other than click bait? 

That key word “if”, and for everyone else who understand how the real world works, this is part of living in a city. Unless you own the adjacent property and the air rights, there is always a very good chance any skyline views that you may have enjoyed could be blocked at any time. 

But hey no doubt Riverside will just throw everything out the window cause random dude in front of Midnight Diner thinks the residents may object lol

[TheOneRJ]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

I would say if Wells moves it HQ here they will designate the current DEC which they own as their HQ.  They already have a signature tower that they own.  Especially since they are pushing Duke Energy out of the top of it.  

DEC will still be referred to as a Duke Energy building to majority of locals regardless of what they are building across the street. And the new building sharing a similar design doesn’t help. If Wells is moving their HQ here I think they would want a new signature tower to slap their name on. 

[Norm2]

1 hour ago, TheOneRJ said:

DEC will still be referred to as a Duke Energy building to majority of locals regardless of what they are building across the street. And the new building sharing a similar design doesn’t help. If Wells is moving their HQ here I think they would want a new signature tower to slap their name on. 

Wells Fargo owes the Feds millions in fines. I don't think they would want to build a new tower.

[Richhamleigh, DC]

9 hours ago, Blue_Devil said:

Damn BMO Harris would make sense. 

BMO stock has been very good to me.

 

[kayman]

On 11/5/2021 at 8:41 AM, SydneyCarton said:

With the development of skyscrapers in SouthEnd, Charlotte's skyline is going to start looking quite large -- kind of like Midtown and Downtown Atl. 

Truth be told, we're already over 60% of size of Metro Atlanta,  so matching them in skyline appearance makes sense. 

[49er]

There's trading floor work/expansion planned at DEC. I don't have any idea what level of activity goes on there today but it seems they're planning for something. 

[CLTranspo]

41 minutes ago, kayman said:

Truth be told, we're already over 60% of size of Metro Atlanta,  so matching them in skyline appearance makes sense. 

Actually we’re closer to 40% of Atlanta metro. Charlotte MSA is about 2.6 M, Atlanta MSA is about 6 M

[TCLT]

16 hours ago, MarcoPolo said:

Alas, one fly in the ointment of the metropolitan minded is the portion of the Grandview townhome development along South Blvd that spills down grade at its rear, to hug the JBF a mere 50 ft or so from the exit lanes....and only 10 ft or so above the traffic they carry beyond the chain link fence and grass verge.   These would never have been permitted if attentive minds to the constant improvement of the City held more sway here.  The opportunity to reach across and heal the open wound stretching from just north of S. Church St, to just south of South Blvd (including an exit there more appropriate to its context), would be less "hairy" were it not for the 13 homeowners who now have a voice in the discussion, and we all know how that may potentially unfold.   Unless they can be "bought-out-right" some manner of compromised design will result.  And, long after the passion to save the little guy from the onslaught of progress flames out and the townhomes that fanned the flames succumb to the inevitable property value decline suffered from their awkward placement are demolished, the site they held will remain; an intruder reminding everyone of what could have been.

Aren't those townhouses rentals managed by Camden? I thought they were part of the larger Grandview rental complex.

[Blue_Devil]

1 hour ago, TCLT said:

Aren't those townhouses rentals managed by Camden? I thought they were part of the larger Grandview rental complex.

They are rentals. I almost rented one 2 years ago. 2500sqft $4000 a month pre-covid. 

[Desert Power]

On 11/6/2021 at 1:00 PM, Blue_Devil said:

They are rentals. I almost rented one 2 years ago. 2500sqft $4000 a month pre-covid. 

How was the sound of the freeway standing in those?