1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million

[smeagolsfree]

20 hours ago, nashville born said:

Saw a population list for 2023.  Didn't realize Nashville has risen to number 20 in the country by population.   It got me to thinking about other relevant, trivial facts, including where we rank in terms of tallest height (as measured by a city's tallest).  According to my list, Nashville sits at 33.  The Y tower will move us up a good number of spots to 19 (dependent on what other cities' new tallest projects top out, of course). 

Here's what I was able to cull together from multiple outlets, sources, and such.  This was compiled in a non-scientific manner so please accept it as such.  Just having fun with where we currently sit and where this project will put us.

Tallest U.S. Cities (by tallest building - not including under construction) 

1. New York City 1,776'

2.  Chicago 1,450'

3. Philadelphia 1,121'

4. Los Angeles 1,100'

5. San Francisco 1,070

6. Atlanta 1,023

7. Houston 1,002

8. Cleveland 947'

9. Seattle 937'

10. Dallas 922'

11. Jersey City 900'

12. Charlotte 871'

13. Miami 868'

14. Oklahoma City 844'

15. Pittsburgh 841'

16. Indianapolis 811'

17. Minneapolis 792'

18. Boston 790'

19. Mobile 745'

20. Las Vegas 735'

21. Detroit 727'

22. Denver 714'

23. Atlantic City 710'

24. New Orleans 697'

25. Austin 690'

26. Tulsa 667'

27. Cincinnati 665'

28. Omaha 634'

29. Des Moines 630'

30. Columbus 624'

31. Kansas City 623'

32. Jacksonville 620'

33. Nashville 617'

34. Milwaukee 601'

35. St. Louis 593'

36. Albany 589'

37. Tampa 579'

38. Fort Worth 567'

40. Louisville 549'

41. Portland 546'

41. Little Rock 546'

41. San Antonio 546'

44. Raleigh 538'

45. Hartford 535'

46. Baltimore 529'

47. Buffalo 529'

48. Virginia Beach 508'

49. San Diego 500'

50. Fort Lauderdale 499'

51. Phoenix 483'

52. Tysons, VA (DC) 470'

 

Off the top of my head, I think Nashville, Austin, Raleigh, Tampa, & maybe Denver will move on this list. I do not remember for sure.

[nashville born]

39 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

Off the top of my head, I think Nashville, Austin, Raleigh, Tampa, & maybe Denver will move on this list. I do not remember for sure.

Austin and Miami for sure are two that will move up as both have two towers underway that will eclipse their current tallest.  And, with the taller of the two projects in each city,  the 1,000' mark will be eclipsed.

[Rick Dalton]

1000 feet in Miami makes me nervous, I wouldn’t live in that tower.

[smeagolsfree]

I just checked and Denver, Tampa, & Raleigh do not have any new tallest proposed or under construction. I thought that they could have, but without looking one never knows.

[Luvemtall]

4 hours ago, natethegreat said:

1000 feet in Miami makes me nervous, I wouldn’t live in that tower.

100 feet in Miami should make people nervous, 1000 feet.. stupidity.

[PillowTalk4]

Mobile - No. 19

Nashville - No. 33

Crowns do matter.  

[Binbin98]

On 1/24/2023 at 2:16 PM, Luvemtall said:

100 feet in Miami should make people nervous, 1000 feet.. stupidity.

Despite all the concerns about hurricanes Miami is one of the fastest growing cities in the country. I have lived in both Nashville and Miami before, the pace of Miami’s growth is insane and a bit overwhelming

[Plasticman]

11 hours ago, Binbin98 said:

Despite all the concerns about hurricanes Miami is one of the fastest growing cities in the country. I have lived in both Nashville and Miami before, the pace of Miami’s growth is insane and a bit overwhelming

I wonder about the rock  layers and whether the buildings are setting on solid ground so to speak.   I would imagine the engineers figured all that out but I do wonder.

Edited January 26, 2023 by Plasticman

[Luvemtall]

10 hours ago, Binbin98 said:

Despite all the concerns about hurricanes Miami is one of the fastest growing cities in the country. I have lived in both Nashville and Miami before, the pace of Miami’s growth is insane and a bit overwhelming

Actually, that’s my point. Everyone just sees the surface of the situation, the coolness of the Miami vibe. The insane growth , you mentioned is going to be it’s nightmare. I know that many will mock me , say I’m a bit foolish and just blow over my post. But that’s ok, because I understand that most people live for today, don’t worry about tomorrow , grab life by the horns and take what they can get. It’s not just hurricanes that will be Miami’s worries, South Florida is not a stable firm base on which to build. Just up the road a good example exists, near Port St Lucie back in the 1980’s they sold 100’s of acres for what was to become the paradise of retirement, not thinking about the aquafir that runs underneath all of South Florida. So they started the infrastructure, and quickly found out the land wasn’t stable to hold the weight , luckily they realized this before any homes were built. I know this because my parents were among those that Purchased a lot there.same holds true for most of the state except the northern most regions. I’m not picking on Miami in general, the overbuilding of Florida spreads far and wide . As I mentioned before, I lived there for 19 years. Spent a lot of time studying the history and geography of the state, and that was a major factor in our decision to move to Tennessee. I still have family that lives in Florida, and I keep trying to convince them to move, but to no avail. 

[Rick Dalton]

I much prefer sitting on limestone 

[jjbradleyBrooklyn]

On 1/24/2023 at 9:33 AM, natethegreat said:

1000 feet in Miami makes me nervous, I wouldn’t live in that tower.

Swampy, water-prone foundation. Agreed, something about Miami skyscrapers seems riskier than other places. 

23 hours ago, PillowTalk4 said:

Mobile - No. 19

Nashville - No. 33

Crowns do matter.  

That Mobile skyscraper is so out of scale and place in a city like Mobile, in general, I think. When Mobile has a taller building than San Diego, Baltimore and Portland, OR, it is head-scratching for sure. Kind of looks like a tourist feature for Mobile. 

[Skyscrapergeek]

 

This thread…

Edited January 26, 2023 by Skyscrapergeek

[Luvemtall]

36 minutes ago, Skyscrapergeek said:

 

This thread…

Yeah, your right . Sorry bout that, sometimes it’s hard to remember what the original thread is. Back to 1010 Church Street . 

[Auntie Yock]

I wouldn't object to dismantling many of the Miami skyscrapers and relocating/rebuilding them in Nashville's solid-limestone bedrock downtown. 

[Armacing]

7 hours ago, jjbradleyBrooklyn said:

That Mobile skyscraper is so out of scale 

I see this an an absolute win.  I hope I get to see the day when someone levels such criticism against a skyscraper in Nashville!

[UTgrad09]

3 hours ago, Armacing said:

I see this an an absolute win.  I hope I get to see the day when someone levels such criticism against a skyscraper in Nashville!

It was already happening when Siggy was proposed.

[MontanaGuy]

On 1/23/2023 at 2:39 PM, natethegreat said:

Need the view photo

I'll get it done soon.  It's complete chaos in my place now and I'm having new floors put in tomorrow but I'll get to it as quick as I can.  I've also got friends and relatives waiting for it!  So far I really like it here but it's even louder outside than I expected, even at 3:30 AM!   OK, I finally took a photo from my living room.  The 1010 Church St building will be just a couple of blocks away on the left side of the photo in front of Amazon 2. 

Edited January 28, 2023 by MontanaGuy
more info

[markhollin]

More demo of YMCA structures.

Looking east from intersection of Church Street Viaduct and Upper 10th Ave. North (Platform Way):

Looking NE from Church Street Viaduct, 1/4 block east of Platform Way:

[MLBrumby]

Several questions imbedded here...

This is going to be a question that may elicit a "duh!" from some here; and I understand that reaction. Have to ask howerver if I read correctly way back when this plan was announced that the YMCA planned to keep the new portion open while this is under construction. IIRC, the part they just demo'd here contained the locker rooms I think I used when I worked out there years ago. 

Did I misunderstand the YMCA's plan to operate while this is being built? If a piece is still open, where are the lockers?  Would a building that much demolished even be allowed to be occupied?  If the YMCA is completely closed, where's the closest location to downtown? Does Giarratana have full financing lined up for the new tower?  

[smeagolsfree]

20 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

Several questions imbedded here...

This is going to be a question that may elicit a "duh!" from some here; and I understand that reaction. Have to ask howerver if I read correctly way back when this plan was announced that the YMCA planned to keep the new portion open while this is under construction. IIRC, the part they just demo'd here contained the locker rooms I think I used when I worked out there years ago. 

Did I misunderstand the YMCA's plan to operate while this is being built? If a piece is still open, where are the lockers?  Would a building that much demolished even be allowed to be occupied?  If the YMCA is completely closed, where's the closest location to downtown? Does Giarratana have full financing lined up for the new tower?  

I know the Y did some preliminary remodeling of the back half of the building in order for this to start. I do not go to the Y so I cannot answer your question as to where the lockers are. There is a large portion of the building that was part of the YMCA expansion back in 2008 or so that is wide open.

As for the loan I do not recall, but I am sure Tony has it lined up otherwise he would not be starting it. With it being an apartment / condo mix the apartments will be the easy part to finance and my guess is that he may have a number of presales in place already. If I know Tony, he has repeat customers that will move from existing towers to this tower for the upgrade. He has a couple of years to get more presales done too.

[Edgefield D]

On 1/29/2023 at 11:16 AM, MLBrumby said:

Several questions imbedded here...

This is going to be a question that may elicit a "duh!" from some here; and I understand that reaction. Have to ask howerver if I read correctly way back when this plan was announced that the YMCA planned to keep the new portion open while this is under construction. IIRC, the part they just demo'd here contained the locker rooms I think I used when I worked out there years ago. 

Did I misunderstand the YMCA's plan to operate while this is being built? If a piece is still open, where are the lockers?  Would a building that much demolished even be allowed to be occupied?  If the YMCA is completely closed, where's the closest location to downtown? Does Giarratana have full financing lined up for the new tower?  

I’m still a member of the downtown Y. The older portion housed the locker rooms, basketball gym, racquetball courts, spin studio, pools. They completely blocked off the old portion before demo. They were closed one day while they did the electrical disconnect. They relocated the spin studio, day care and temp locker rooms to the new area. I have to say that the temporary locker rooms are a joke. One small room with 6 showers and ten lockers for the men. I got so sick of standing in water to change out of my work clothes I now use one of the private restrooms to change. I will say, it’s less crowded now. Which is good because the only parking is the garage now. There are several images on the wall and it looks like it will be nice. I’ll try to take pictures and post them. The next closest Ys are East and Green Hills.

Edited January 30, 2023 by Edgefield D

[Edgefield D]

On 1/30/2023 at 2:25 PM, Edgefield D said:

I’m still a member of the downtown Y. The older portion housed the locker rooms, basketball gym, racquetball courts, spin studio, pools. They completely blocked off the old portion before demo. They were closed one day while they did the electrical disconnect. They relocated the spin studio, day care and temp locker rooms to the new area. I have to say that the temporary locker rooms are a joke. One small room with 6 showers and ten lockers for the men. I got so sick of standing in water to change out of my work clothes I now use one of the private restrooms to change. I will say, it’s less crowded now. Which is good because the only parking is the garage now. There are several images on the wall and it looks like it will be nice. I’ll try to take pictures and post them. The next closest Ys are East and Green Hills.

Here are the image boards from the lobby showing some of what the new portion will look like. 

[MLBrumby]

What is the name of the firm on those renderings?  The stylized lettering makes it difficult to read. I recall that Goettsch  is the architect, but that doesn't look like their name.  

[Edgefield D]

9 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

What is the name of the firm on those renderings?  The stylized lettering makes it difficult to read. I recall that Goettsch  is the architect, but that doesn't look like their name.  

I think this is the firm

https://www.smilodoncg.com/contact

Based in Shanghai?

[Rick Dalton]

Big city project