1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million

[Bos2Nash]

@Luvemtallalluded correctly to the FAA height map is a guideline. Similar to how ADA is federal law, but not a building code. The FAA can look at projects on an individual basis and give their opinion, but the biggest factor is insuring the building. Similar to how banks and finance corporations don't like to finance buildings without parking or they say "the market" demands a shit ton more parking than the zoning laws do, the insurance companies are reliant on a number of variables such as the FAA for insuring a finished high rise. If the FAA says no, than plain and simple the insurance companies wont insure the building. If the FAA says yes, that is hurdle that has been cleared, but the insurance may still say no.

Every city is unique and some such as New York may benefit from the orientation of the runways of all the surrounding buildings. Boston on the otherhand is hurt by the orientation of their runway as that is why the Seaport neighborhood looks like a flat top haircut with all the buildings at the same height. 

Many, many, many, many, many variables go into these tall projects. I genuinely believe I wont be around to see Nashville coming close to 1,000'.

[Luvemtall]

34 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

I genuinely believe I wont be around to see Nashville coming close to 1,000'.

Well , let’s hope for the best my friend. I feel the same , but hold on to the dream. 

[MontanaGuy]

I know that this question about the FAA and height restrictions has been addressed over and over again but there's one question that Luvemtall has brought up that hasn't been clearly answered.  Is it true that the Signature Tower had been approved and was scheduled to begin construction with a height that was over 750 feet?  And if it was approved then could someone explain how that could happen and how the issue of insurance was dealt with?  I clearly remember that the original design was over 1,000 feet but all of the news reports from those days made it sound like it was definitely going to happen and that it would have happened if the economy hadn't been hit with a major downturn.  I've never heard a clear explanation of those events and I've wondered about it for years.  Thanks!   

[UrbanWes03]

1 hour ago, MontanaGuy said:

I know that this question about the FAA and height restrictions has been addressed over and over again but there's one question that Luvemtall has brought up that hasn't been clearly answered.  Is it true that the Signature Tower had been approved and was scheduled to begin construction with a height that was over 750 feet?  And if it was approved then could someone explain how that could happen and how the issue of insurance was dealt with?  I clearly remember that the original design was over 1,000 feet but all of the news reports from those days made it sound like it was definitely going to happen and that it would have happened if the economy hadn't been hit with a major downturn.  I've never heard a clear explanation of those events and I've wondered about it for years.  Thanks!   

I was just wondering the same thing after reading the other posts!

[Luvemtall]

Here is a post from 2007 right before construction was to begin. So take it for what it’s worth, it was actually approved and ready to go.

[Armacing]

4 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

Here is a post from 2007 right before construction was to begin. So take it for what it’s worth, it was actually approved and ready to go.

I wonder what ever happened to "Scorcher"?

[Licec]

19 minutes ago, Armacing said:

I wonder what ever happened to "Scorcher"?

Maybe "Scorcher" got Fired.

Edited February 25, 2022 by Licec

[donNdonelson2]

18 hours ago, Licec said:

Maybe "Scorcher" got Fired.

I’m sure he went out in a BLAZE of glory!

[downtownresident]

Shell permit applications for the tower and YMCA were applied for. 
 

Tower permit: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4113819

YMCA: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4113828

Hoping we see some movement on this one before the original start date of 2023! 

[titanhog]

17 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

Shell permit applications for the tower and YMCA were applied for. 
 

Tower permit: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4113819

YMCA: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4113828

Hoping we see some movement on this one before the original start date of 2023! 

All I’m thinking is WHAT other land can Tony buy in DT and put another tall tower on it?!! 

[Skyscrapergeek]

Wow! Happily surprised. Of course I’m a big fan of Tony and give him a huge amount of credit for jumpstarting the downtown building boom in Nashville but I’ve been skeptical of this tower happening for a few reasons. The biggest one being the lead time. I sure hope it doesn’t meet the same timing fate as Signature. Sorry. Positivity! Carry on. 

[smeagolsfree]

The magic 8 ball has seen!!!!!  And knowsss!!!

[Luvemtall]

14 hours ago, titanhog said:

All I’m thinking is WHAT other land can Tony buy in DT and put another tall tower on it?!! 

I’m thinking that parking lot at the corner of Church & Rosa L Parks & Polk. Would be a great spot for his Paramount…. Or Siggy

10 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

The magic 8 ball has seen!!!!!  And knowsss!!!

Guess we have to wait , to find out what that little black ball knows. Or perhaps take you out for a bit of adult beverages 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Luvemtall

[subkyle]

14 hours ago, downtownresident said:

Shell permit applications for the tower and YMCA were applied for. 
 

Tower permit: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4113819

YMCA: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4113828

Hoping we see some movement on this one before the original start date of 2023! 

Pardon my ignorance but I thought there would be other permits applied for before a shell permit. Is a shell permit usually applied for before a demolition or infrastructure permits?

[Bos2Nash]

Because this is such a large building and there is such a back up within the permitting/codes department, they may have submitted the application just to get in the queue. No drawings were received according to that permit so it is more or less a Letter of Intent to move forwards with the project. There is demolition, stormwater, foundation. Most likely we have plenty of time to go, but this may be the project team trying to stay ahead of the game.

[jjbradleyBrooklyn]

This seems like very positive news and moving in the right direction for shovels in the ground for this.

It's a hotspot area right there by Nashville Yards for development in general, and I think a 750 foot skyscraper will fit in amazingly WELL for Nashville's skyline overall, and general infill density and height for that neighborhood.

I would not be surprised at all to see another 700 + footer going up by 2030 either. 

I'd LOVE to see Nashville ultimately land a supertall downtown too.  

[downtownresident]

1 hour ago, Bos2Nash said:

Because this is such a large building and there is such a back up within the permitting/codes department, they may have submitted the application just to get in the queue. No drawings were received according to that permit so it is more or less a Letter of Intent to move forwards with the project. There is demolition, stormwater, foundation. Most likely we have plenty of time to go, but this may be the project team trying to stay ahead of the game.

They’ve applied for the stormwater, and as best as I can tell, the utility plans have been filed. They’ve also started the process to have easements abandoned and the lot subdivided, so it’s definitely moving along. 

[nashville born]

Wow...

[rolly]

Financial guys I follow predict a recession in 3Q.  

Hopefully that doesn't derail too much of this momentum. 

[samsonh]

1 hour ago, rolly said:

Financial guys I follow predict a recession in 3Q.  

Hopefully that doesn't derail too much of this momentum. 

Tough to see that honestly, and none of the guys I follow are predicting that. Consumer is exceedingly strong, employment growth is great, and recessions typically don’t appear out of nowhere. Fuel is more expensive, but our economy has been growing less oil intensive for decades. 

[Rick Dalton]

No one can accurately predict recessions. Bears have predicted 10 out of the last 5 recessions.

[downtownresident]

Mass grading permit was applied for today: https://epermits.nashville.gov/#/permit/4118878

[MLBrumby]

Grading permit?  Wait! What?  This one is getting underway?  I'd expected a demolition permit for the YMCA first. 

[downtownresident]

31 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

Grading permit?  Wait! What?  This one is getting underway?  I'd expected a demolition permit for the YMCA first. 

Grading permits take longer to review than a demolition permit. We’ll know this is close to starting once Demo is applied for. 

[jjbradleyBrooklyn]

29 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

Grading permits take longer to review than a demolition permit. We’ll know this is close to starting once Demo is applied for. 

This certainly sounds VERY promising, moving towards "shovels in the ground" ever so steadily. 

With Giarratana behind this one, it makes me much, much more confident that it will rise from the ground. If it is mostly residential (I can't recall?), then the demand is also heavily there in downtown Nashville, making this more of a solid plan. 

Excited to watch this once closely.