SouthEnd High-Rise Projects

[davidclt]

15 hours ago, Blue_Devil said:

No Photos but 110 East has broken ground, and the Rosemont is gone along with one of the two warehouses next to the Walgreens (Artisan Station warehouse is staying). 

And thus, it begins. . .

[kermit]

6 hours ago, davidclt said:

And thus, it begins. . .

The other angle around 5 today. Moving right along…

 

 

here is demo across the street

 

Edited January 12, 2022 by kermit

[kermit]

5 minutes ago, dnlleffingwell said:

I have looked at every page. Is there a rendering for this project?

Several, just look for the giant parking garage with a few floors of office on top.

(it now occurs to me that you may have been referring to the Kingston project. I don’t believe I have seen renderings for that)

Edited January 12, 2022 by kermit

[NCMike1990]

9 minutes ago, dnlleffingwell said:

I have looked at every page. Is there a rendering for this project?

 

5 minutes ago, kermit said:

(it now occurs to me that you may have been referring to the Kingston project. I don’t believe I have seen renderings for that)

Found it on the Development Maps page. 

 

[atlrvr]

Cousins submitted their land-use plans for 306 W Tremont.

328k sq ft of office 

300 apartments

18k sq ft retail

Only 577 parking spaces which seems really low.  I guess they assume apartments/office on different schedules and will "share"

Also 37k sq ft of open space which seems huge.

 

 

[RANYC]

40 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

Cousins submitted their land-use plans for 306 W Tremont.

328k sq ft of office 

300 apartments

18k sq ft retail

Only 577 parking spaces which seems really low.  I guess they assume apartments/office on different schedules and will "share"

Also 37k sq ft of open space which seems huge.

 

 

Thanks for that update.  I do like how this is sounding.  We are really seeing the parking ratios everyone complains about falling rapidly.  Thrilled about the open space as well, and wonder if it will be an urban square or central plaza concept?  Just brilliant to see this enhance Tremont as a destination strip.

Edited January 13, 2022 by RANYC

[Blue_Devil]

1 hour ago, atlrvr said:

Cousins submitted their land-use plans for 306 W Tremont.

328k sq ft of office 

300 apartments

18k sq ft retail

Only 577 parking spaces which seems really low.  I guess they assume apartments/office on different schedules and will "share"

Also 37k sq ft of open space which seems huge.

 

 

Having a general idea of how they are planning it, I think there should be more retail, but oh well. 

 

Does anyone know if they will be doing both towers at once? The way they dug out the lot seems to indicate yes. 

Edited January 13, 2022 by Blue_Devil

[buildleft]

1 hour ago, atlrvr said:

Cousins submitted their land-use plans for 306 W Tremont.

328k sq ft of office 

300 apartments

18k sq ft retail

Only 577 parking spaces which seems really low.  I guess they assume apartments/office on different schedules and will "share"

Also 37k sq ft of open space which seems huge.

 

 

Woahhh that parking # is wild! The parking ratio is really unlike most (all?) highrises u/c now. Quite pleased with this project

[davidclt]

On 1/11/2022 at 9:02 PM, tarhoosier said:

The building at 1708 South Boulevard which was conspicuous for decades for being so well preserved yet with not an indication of the business or activity within was Boulevard Films.

Farewell Boulevard Films (building). From earlier today.

One more:

[deleted account]

I have to say, I hate losing some of these buildings...

[JRCLT]

Documentation of buildings is key! They may be gone but why let them be forgotten? : )

[davidclt]

On 1/13/2022 at 3:59 PM, davidclt said:

Farewell Boulevard Films (building). From earlier today.

One more:

One more from another angle with some remaining ice/snow today.

[Prodev]

Walgreens has notices in their store that they're closing for good in February. Surprised they're not staying open until the new store is ready.

[davidclt]

1 hour ago, Prodev said:

Walgreens has notices in their store that they're closing for good in February. Surprised they're not staying open until the new store is ready.

I never shopped at Eckerd/Rite Aid/Walgreens out of principle because it was a suburban store in what was an urban neighborhood. Looking forward to the "new" Walgreens. CVS down the street is marginally better. Mad props generally for Dilworth Drug and Canon Pharmacy for being local.

Edited January 19, 2022 by davidclt

[rancenc]

Recent aerial view of one of the newer towers gracing the SouthEnd skyline.

 

[ertley]

I know we're all less than enthused by the very upfront parking podium on the now *under construction* Stiles/Shorenstein building--and with certainty the garage screening is going to be at best underwhelming and most likely disappointing--but looking again at the rendering this morning on Axios, I thought I would point out two positive things about the design that I hadn't noticed fully before: It's set back from West Boulevard to create a nice little public square, and the building's angle is actually really pedestrian-friendly, encouraging people to walk to and from the Rail Trail to and from South and East, and the setback of the building also allows the back facade of the church to be plainly visible, which is also very nice, because it's got an interesting three-sided projecting bay and funny little chimney that are a historic element that wouldn't be re-created nowadays.   

Edited January 27, 2022 by ertley

[deleted account]

2 hours ago, ertley said:

I know we're all less than enthused by the very upfront parking podium on the now *under construction* Stiles/Shorenstein building--and with certainty the garage screening is going to be at best underwhelming and most likely disappointing--but looking again at the rendering this morning on Axios, I thought I would point out two positive things about the design that I hadn't noticed fully before: It's set back from West Boulevard to create a nice little public square, and the building's angle is actually really pedestrian-friendly, encouraging people to walk to and from the Rail Trail to and from South and East, and the setback of the building also allows the back facade of the church to be plainly visible, which is also very nice, because it's got an interesting three-sided projecting bay and funny little chimney that are a historic element that wouldn't be re-created nowadays.   

Really depends on the rendering to determine my reaction. One is fine, one is marginal and one is awful. Fingers crossed that it looks like the first one and not the second one here.

[Madison Parkitect]

3 minutes ago, JBS said:

Really depends on the rendering to determine my reaction. One is fine, one is marginal and one is awful. Fingers crossed that it looks like the first one and not the second one here.

Those renderings are just front side vs. back side, right? It'll end up looking like both.

[deleted account]

Just now, Madison Parkitect said:

Those renderings are just front side vs. back side, right? It'll end up looking like both.

Well sure, but look at the color of the screening and glass in the two renderings.  Pretty significant difference in my opinion. 

[go_vertical]

The top rendering with the garage and office looking more uniform is the original one released when the tower was announced. The second (and in my opinion the uglier) rendering is the most recent that was made public. I'm willing to bet what is built will look more like the second. 

[deleted account]

12 minutes ago, go_vertical said:

The top rendering with the garage and office looking more uniform is the original one released when the tower was announced. The second (and in my opinion the uglier) rendering is the most recent that was made public. I'm willing to bet what is built will look more like the second. 

Agreed!

[CTiger]

How often do we think parking garage screening turns out better than the rendering?  Ever?  For a building thats entire lower half is parking deck screening, I'd be willing to bet it comes out way worse than the rendering, and the rendering is already fugly.  The retail on this thing better be awesome because that is probably going to be its only saving grace.  

[TheRealClayton]

3 hours ago, Madison Parkitect said:

Those renderings are just front side vs. back side, right? It'll end up looking like both.

The difference is literally lighting and backdrop. A blue building against a hazy blue sky is going to look washed out, a blue building on a bright day against a warm landscape is going to look more vibrant. Pretty simple. I was at the groundbreaking and the building will look fine. Honestly people are just making stuff up now. Agreed that the deck is too big but literally not going to stop having big decks until we have an actual transit plan.

Edited January 27, 2022 by TheRealClayton

[deleted account]

59 minutes ago, TheRealClayton said:

The difference is literally lighting and backdrop. A blue building against a hazy blue sky is going to look washed out, a blue building on a bright day against a warm landscape is going to look more vibrant. Pretty simple. I was at the groundbreaking and the building will look fine. Honestly people are just making stuff up now. Agreed that the deck is too big but literally not going to stop having big decks until we have an actual transit plan.

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by JBS

[Nathan2]

18 hours ago, TheRealClayton said:

The difference is literally lighting and backdrop. A blue building against a hazy blue sky is going to look washed out, a blue building on a bright day against a warm landscape is going to look more vibrant. Pretty simple. I was at the groundbreaking and the building will look fine. Honestly people are just making stuff up now. Agreed that the deck is too big but literally not going to stop having big decks until we have an actual transit plan.

 

I'm sorry, the constant grandstanding for development that continues to go against the cities vision and will continue to choke off the city and prevent good place-making has got to stop. Everyone knows that renderings, especially for parking garages never turn out positively, we see that with almost every project in charlotte. The excuses for these monstrosities are insane, we are all supposed to just roll over and let the financers do as they please. They aren't the ones who will have to deal with the repercussions of bad development, they are just looking for a quick way to make a buck. Obviously the city is in no place to do away with parking completely, especially with charlottes terrible track record with getting transit projects across the finish line. Though there are other options than just throwing up giant structures like this, it just takes will power and a little creativity. One option is general use parking garages that can be built on the outskirts of south end so most of the commuting traffic does not have to clog the incapable streets of southend, especially streets that are increasingly being used by pedestrians (someone is going to get killed). A short walk from one of these structures to the interior of southend is not that bad. Why should pedestrians and the thousand living in southend suffer so suburbanites can have the convenience. It doesn't matter if transit is ever built or expanded now as charlotte has already dug itself into a hole that ensures cars will dominate southend for generations to come.  https://twitter.com/dotexperiment/status/1486698812114710529?s=20&t=1wjm4EekNM-XWNNANiFxSg