New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

[Sean blackdog]

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NFL: Tennessee Titans

Updated 6 hrs ago

Total cost:  $2.1 billion (Groundbreaking fall 2023, to open in 2026)

State Cost: $500 million

State Benefits: The Titans will make annual payments to the Nashville Needs Impact Fund over the term of the lease totaling at least $47 million. Funds will support nonprofits serving Nashville and Davidson County for public education, public transit, gender equity in sports and affordable housing.

The Tennessee Titans were the beneficiaries of a stadium deal gone bad back in the mid-1990s. The Houston Oilers, owned at the time by Bud Adams, wanted to replace the aging Astrodome. But just as he began pressuring local and state authorities for help on the deal, the Oilers fell apart on the field. Houston finished 12-4 as AFC Central champions in 1993, but won just two games the following season, finishing 2-14 on the year. That amounted to the biggest one-season regression in NFL history.  As a result,  Adams' multipurpose downtown stadium proposal fell on deaf ears. So instead of forking out more cash to get it done, Adams moved the team to Nashville in 1997. Soon thereafter, Nissan Stadium construction began. And after one year in Memphis at the Liberty Bowl and the 1998 season at Vanderbilt's home stadium, the Titans saw the Nissan Stadium open its doors. 

While the location has suited the franchise, Nissan Stadium's amenities and revenue opportunities haven't aged well. A newly approved stadium, set to open in 2026, will be state of the art. The slightly smaller, weatherproofed stadium will have a translucent roof and terraces with panoramic views of the city.s.The location will also open up prime waterfront real estate opportunities for both the city and developers. The signed deal will also create a 12,000-square-foot community plaza adjacent to the stadium that will be used for "educational opportunities, non-profit events, and other community-minded purposes," according to the Tennessee Titans.

Additional community benefits include a large payment from the franchise to the Nashville Needs Impact Fund. Over time the Titans will contribute $47 million to the fund, which will allow nonprofits serving Nashville and Davidson County to aid public education, public transit, gender equity in sports and affordable housing.

The NFL, the Titans and personal seat license (PSL) sales will cover at least $840 million for the construction cost overruns per their signed agreement. A PSL is essentially a premium price fans pay to secure a seat, granting them first access to that seat for any events the stadium will host. A one-time state contribution of $500 million is a part of the deal as well as $760 million coming from revenue bonds issued by the Metro Sports Authority. The $760 million will be repaid by revenue generated primarily by hotel visitors and new stadium guests. The new stadium's location will also create value for the city according to its mayor, who sees opportunities for building more public parks, affordable housing, and a transit hub.

[WebberThomas4]

After a very lengthy meeting (ended around 1:48 am), the council voted on a one meeting deferral on the 2nd reading. However, not before voting 19-18-1 in favor of an amendment regarding team rent payments for non-NFL events. It will be interesting to see what comes of this as it could have an impact on how the Titans were planning to fund their share of the project.  I’m sure we’ll see more today about it.

 

Edited April 5, 2023 by WebberThomas4

[PaulChinetti]

They deferred it to the 3rd reading or deferred the 2nd reading?

[WebberThomas4]

5 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

They deferred it to the 3rd reading or deferred the 2nd reading?

Deferred the 2nd reading 

[nashvylle]

The 2nd meeting was deferred to the 18th and the third will be a specially called meeting prior to the end of the month. 

[markhollin]

An ambitious rendering for the new Titans Stadium. Would not create enough additional income in the massive footprint, as well as being more expensive in design/construction.

More behind The Tennessean paywall here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2023/04/10/will-nashvilles-new-tennessee-titans-stadium-architecture-buck-the-futuristic-trend-nfl/69986783007/
 

[smeagolsfree]

I am glad I am not the only one that was not overly impressed with the current design. Thank you, Ryan Thewes!!!!

[Sean blackdog]

36 minutes ago, markhollin said:

 

Edited April 10, 2023 by Sean blackdog

[Sean blackdog]

 I’m not paywall Tennessean. What they said?  

[markhollin]

16 minutes ago, Sean blackdog said:

 I’m not paywall Tennessean. What they said?  

When Nashville modern architect Ryan Thewes saw the renderings for the proposed new Titans stadium, he felt it was, "overly plain and safe."

Thewes told The Tennessean, "It's definitely not progressive, iconic or memorable. As a student of architecture and design, I hoped that the stadium would be more forward thinking and that Nashville might follow the trend of other new high-design modern stadiums like So-Fi."

The last three NFL stadiums to be built; SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, California, Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada and Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia all have futuristic architecture that sets them apart from their older, more traditional counterparts.

The Mercedes-Benz stadium was the first in 2017, opening the door to football stadiums having more of an architectural footprint beyond being just a bowl.

As Nashville eyes being one of two NFL hometowns preparing to build their football franchise a new stadium — along with the Buffalo Bills — the renderings presented for the new Titans stadium look more Fifth and Broadway than futuristic and brazen.

While the Titans organization declined to comment on how the architecture team landed on the current renderings, it's worth looking at how other teams and cities in the league are redesigning the look of their NFL structures.

Nissan Stadium, built in 1999, is showing its age, and according to two expert facility assessments, needs about $1.8 billion in repairs. The proposed new stadium comes with a $2.1 billion price tag.

The Tennessean previously reported Titans officials have said they are working with three major goals: to find a better stadium-lease agreement for the city, build sustainable funding sources and construct a community destination that can host a variety of events, expanding the area's tax base and enhancing its culture.

But the Titans and Metro are partnering on what will be one of the most influential downtown attractions that will be there for at least 45 years, according to the lease terms. Will this design live up to the hype?

Thewes said while a new stadium is an exciting proposition, for him, the current renderings fall short of the potential he sees for a building of this magnitude. Thewes, who is a residential architect and is not privy to any of the detailed infrastructure-type information used to draft the current renderings, designed his own conceptual vision for the type of structure he'd like to see the Titans play ball in.

He envisions something lower in profile to allow the Nashville skyline to be the wow factor.

"I didn't want the stadium to block or obscure the city skyline as you were driving past," he said. "I wanted it to be more of a gentle transition with parks and green space that is sympathetic to the environmental impact that a structure of that size has."

The existing stadium designs were created by MANICA, a Kansas City-based architecture firm. MANICA also worked on Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, according to the Titans organization.

According to a release issued by the Titans, the proposed stadium architecture is inspired by the city of Nashville and is planned to be 'complementary to the broader East Bank development plan led by the City. The design gave specific attention to multi-purpose function, in order to maximize the number and types of events that could takeplace in the building.'

According to Sportico.com, only two NFL venues, SoFi and Allegiant, have opened in the past five years. Stadium openings by the Titans and the Buffalo Bills, both expected by 2026, would be the fewest in any eight-year period in more than three decades. By comparison, between 1995 and 2003, 16 new NFL stadiums opened.

SoFi, which cost $5.5 billion, and Allegiant, which came in at $1.9 billion, are the two most expensive NFL stadiums ever built, according to Sportico.com. These venues raised the bar on the stadium experience. According to sports valuations reporter Kurt Badenhausen, they are not only two of the best venues in football, but also 'two of the premier venues in any sport around the world.'

While Nashville (and Buffalo) are still in the planning phases of their new stadiums, neither are on track to be as architecturally distinct as Atlanta, Los Angeles or Las Vegas.

“Every single one of the 30 cities is different, with a unique fanbase, unique climate, unique history, unique foods and all the way down the line,” Mark Williams, head of the sports and entertainment practice at HKS, which designed SoFi and NFL venues in Dallas, Minnesota and Indianapolis, told Sportico. “It’s about building environments and experiences so that people can experience sports entertainment at a different and deeper level. That to me is the future.”

Metro Nashville Sports Authority unanimously approved the deal to build a new $2.1 billion stadium for National Football League games and other major events downtown. This was the final decision from the Sports Authority, but Metro Council members will consider remaining amendments on April 18. The final vote is expected to occur during a special meeting in late April.

[Sean blackdog]

Any more new designs? 

[markhollin]

34 minutes ago, Sean blackdog said:

Any more new designs? 

Only the one I posted.

[PaulChinetti]

I prefer the more field house look than the extravagant designs like LA. 

Fitting it into the neighborhood is easier with those looks as well I would think.

[Luvemtall]

I tend to agree Paul, something such as above would not fit with its surroundings . I like the forward thinking and idea of something unique and different, but it also needs to not completely stand out like a sore thumb. 

[PaulChinetti]

We should just go full Colosseum and call it a day.

[MontanaGuy]

10 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:

I tend to agree Paul, something such as above would not fit with its surroundings . I like the forward thinking and idea of something unique and different, but it also needs to not completely stand out like a sore thumb.

I know what you guys are saying and it makes sense but none of those other futuristic new stadiums fit in with their surroundings either and yet people seem pretty excited by them!  For myself I'd love to have the new one, within a few years it would become a symbol of Nashville just like the Space Needle is a symbol of Seattle and it would become iconic.  That will never happen with the existing design!

[Sean blackdog]

More than 70,000 seats? 
2 biggest scoreboards? 
 

[MLBrumby]

I would still like to see the upper windows be able to open fully to give (at least) some indoor-outdoor feeling on nice days. And it wouldn't be the maintenance headache that I understand comes with the retractable roofs. 

[Sean blackdog]

Well…. 

 

[Baronakim]

3 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

We should just go full Colosseum and call it a day.

A little late Paul.  I proposed building a full size Flavian Amphitheatre off Dickerson Pike over 30 years ago.  On the extreme right of the rendering.

[PillowTalk4]

17 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

I prefer the more field house look than the extravagant designs like LA. 

Fitting it into the neighborhood is easier with those looks as well I would think.

This is the current neighborhood.

There's nothing in the neighborhood but non descript metal warehouse buildings, a metal scrap yard, parking lots and other structures of absolutely no significance.  So, why not create a new design aesthetic for the area that pushes creativity?  Also, there is nothing wrong with an eclectic mix of architecture in an area.  New York City is a prime example of that.  You have modern glass towers next to art deco buildings, next to gothic revival buildings, next to renaissance revival buildings.  Yet somehow it works.  

Edited April 11, 2023 by PillowTalk4

[PaulChinetti]

Oh I don’t disagree with that @PillowTalk4it can be done, it would be a big change for the builders here in Nashville. 

I just prefer the more original stadium look. 

[henburg]

I can appreciate the sentiment of what that guy is doing but I just don't think it would be as functional as what the team has proposed. It really reminds me of something from the 60's with the big sweeping plazas and big arches surrounding the field. It looks nice, but it will suffer from the same issues as the current stadium (wasteland outside of gamedays, no mixed use or integration into East Nashville) and who's to say how this will age aesthetically in the future? Again, it's a grand vision that's fun to look at, but the proposed design takes a drastically different design philosophy that I think is way better for the city's urban fabric.

Edited April 11, 2023 by henburg

[nashville born]

15 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

I would still like to see the upper windows be able to open fully to give (at least) some indoor-outdoor feeling on nice days. And it wouldn't be the maintenance headache that I understand comes with the retractable roofs. 

That's one of the coolest features at SoFi.  You're indoors with an absolute outdoors feel.

[nashville born]