VeLa Pie Town/601 Lafayette (32 stories/360', 367 apartments, 4,795 sq. ft. restaurant, 396 capacity underground garage)

[smeagolsfree]

My guess is they will go for around 30. I found that rendering on a Raleigh discussion board and they are doing one a little taller in Charlotte. At least it looks to be a little taller. I didn't count.

I will be happy if we get something as nice here as the Raleigh building. The Charlotte one I am not a blown over by.

VELA | Real Estate Development Company (veladev.com)

 

 

[titanhog]

4 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

My guess is they will go for around 30. I found that rendering on a Raleigh discussion board and they are doing one a little taller in Charlotte. At least it looks to be a little taller. I didn't count.

I will be happy if we get something as nice here as the Raleigh building. The Charlotte one I am not a blown over by.

VELA | Real Estate Development Company (veladev.com)

 

 

Yeah…I like the Raleigh one.

I’ll be disappointed if a pie shop doesn’t set up business on the first floor. 

[donNdonelson2]

16 minutes ago, titanhog said:

Yeah…I like the Raleigh one.

I’ll be disappointed if a pie shop doesn’t set up business on the first floor. 

They could at least put up a historic marker to honor all the great pie shops that were there in decades past, giving rise to the name of the neighborhood.

(After all, Nashville IS somewhat famous for tearing down historic buildings and installing  markers to acknowledge their loss.)

[PostRural]

7 hours ago, markhollin said:

601 Lafayette will be called VeLa Pie Town looks like it will be at least 25 stories.  VaLa Development, which has ties to the Post Road Group (who bought the land) has several similar type towers going up in Charlotte, Raleigh and Phoenix.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/details-emerge-for-tower-eyed-for-pie-town/article_6be68be8-5612-11ed-8c8f-a3c177f00ca5.html

Here is VeLa design for Raleigh, NC (30 stories):

Great looking building for Raleigh. Please don't put those letters on top. 

[UrbanWes03]

I’m really excited for something this size there! Seems to be the trend of towers moving towards the interstate boundary and onward to WeHo!! As I’ve said repeatedly at this point lol. It’s just great to see so many underutilized and surface parking lots redeveloped. Any area with them around Nashville is almost certain to be redeveloped, which always keeps us on our toes.  

[Deangelo]

I look forward to seeing the renderings for this building. With this proposal being across from the nashvlle rescue mission and all the development that's happening near it I think the mission should be moved so the site can be redeveloped. That would lead to  more towers, restaurants and retail stores being built.

[smeagolsfree]

21 minutes ago, High Rise Lover said:

I look forward to seeing the renderings for this building. With this proposal being across from the nashvlle rescue mission and all the development that's happening near it I think the mission should be moved so the site can be redeveloped. That would lead to  more towers, restaurants and retail stores being built.

It is only a matter of time from what I have been hearing. Two years maybe.

[sambo]

15 hours ago, UrbanWes03 said:

I’m really excited for something this size there! Seems to be the trend of towers moving towards the interstate boundary and onward to WeHo!! As I’ve said repeatedly at this point lol. It’s just great to see so many underutilized and surface parking lots redeveloped. Any area with them around Nashville is almost certain to be redeveloped, which always keeps us on our toes.  

every time I walk around downtown and see a parking lot, I get excited because I know it will be developed eventually

[KJHburg]

On 10/27/2022 at 3:31 PM, smeagolsfree said:

My guess is they will go for around 30. I found that rendering on a Raleigh discussion board and they are doing one a little taller in Charlotte. At least it looks to be a little taller. I didn't count.

I will be happy if we get something as nice here as the Raleigh building. The Charlotte one I am not a blown over by.

VELA | Real Estate Development Company (veladev.com)

 

 

Yes Charlotte's is 32 stories and I do like the Raleigh tower better.  It is on a curving lot so it has an unique look.  It is 335 feet 30 stories and on the new New Bern Ave.  Bus Rapid Transit line. 

these all look better than the Skyhouses Novare Group out of Atlanta built in multiple southeast cities.  

 

[carolina1792]

On 10/29/2022 at 7:47 PM, KJHburg said:

Yes Charlotte's is 32 stories and I do like the Raleigh tower better.  It is on a curving lot so it has an unique look.  It is 335 feet 30 stories and on the new New Bern Ave.  Bus Rapid Transit line. 

these all look better than the Skyhouses Novare Group out of Atlanta built in multiple southeast cities.  

 

30 stories due to arbitrary zoning restrictions (property was rezoned DX-40 but limited to 30 floors before it was sold to a developer). There's no real reasons for this project could have not gotten taller but developers in Raleigh know that adding arbitrary conditions/restrictions helps process rezonings faster.  However recently one of the city councilmembers mentioned that the current 40 story max zoning for downtown is ridiculous. Why not 60 stories or more? The current 40 story limit was set in 2015 by a very conservative city council so likely this restriction will end sooner or later. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by carolina1792

[markhollin]

New details, renderings, and diagrams on 601 Lafayette:

- Will be 32 stories, 360'

- 411 apartment units

- 5,715 sq. ft. of ground level retail

- 373 capacity garage 4 levels below grade

- Johnston Marklee and Lamar Johnson Collaborative will partner on the architectural design

- Kimley Horn will handle land planning and engineering

- The property is zoned to accommodate a building of up to 16 floors with basic bonus height. VeLa will seek additional height from the Metro Planning Department Downtown Code Design Review Committee. Bonus height can be granted for projects that incorporate exceptional design, LEED certification and more parking than required, for example.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/images-released-for-tower-planned-for-pie-town/article_238a8db2-7274-11ed-be7d-639fa9596d0d.html


And at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/12/06/vela-development-partners-pie-town-tower-apartment.html

[downtownresident]

This rendering is incredible, hoping all of the roundabout projects materialize: 

This tower is fine, major upgrade over the lot it will replace, but a solid meh in terms of design, imo. 

[Nash_12South]

Just my opinion, but this is an incredibly boring design. 

[Brichar4]

The density here makes me so excited, hopefully most of not all actually come to fruition! 

[UrbanWes03]

2 hours ago, downtownresident said:

This rendering is incredible, hoping all of the roundabout projects materialize: 

This tower is fine, major upgrade over the lot it will replace, but a solid meh in terms of design, imo. 

Agreed. Why is it that their Raleigh tower can look as good as it does, but that their Nashville proposal is very lacking in the design department. Sometimes I feel as if Nashville gets skimped on design when compared to its peer cities, but I don't get why. More and more of the newer projects proposed are getting better with not doing this, but nonetheless, it is still happening  This is still a very welcome addition though! 32 stories for that area is so so great to see! And the way they address the street, especially with all that retail and the neat glass overhang is nice.
 

[Rick Dalton]

Are you guys serious? That’s a really good looking tower on a previously unused lot. It’s sleek and impressive.

[UrbanWes03]

1 hour ago, Brichar4 said:

The density here makes me so excited, hopefully most of not all actually come to fruition! 

And this as well. Seeing all of these proposals rendered out and the density it's gonna bring is so exciting. Hopefully Circle South will survive and all of this will happen. It's really jaw dropping to see, and this doesn't even include other proposals in the area. This side of downtown, Midtown, and the East Bank, if all populated with current proposals, will literally make Nashville unrecognizable and move us into an entirely different category as a city!

[Nash_12South]

Elevated design, prettier buildings, often happens where there is competition. Where developers are competing against the other guy building a few blocks away. In Nashville, for good or bad, we have no trouble filling new housing/hotel rooms, so why spend more on better design?  It's part of the reason our office buildings are looking better, competition is more prevalent. 

Edited December 5, 2022 by Nash_12South

[UrbanWes03]

8 minutes ago, Nash_12South said:

Elevated design, prettier buildings, often happens where there is competition. Where developers are competing against the other guy building a few blocks away. In Nashville, for good or bad, we have no trouble filling new housing/hotel rooms, so why spend more on better design?  It's part of the reason our office buildings are looking better, competition is more prevalent. 

Great point. I guess that's one downside to Nashville's explosive growth and abundant vacant land. Maybe incorporating higher design standards could help with that? That doesn't seem like too much to ask for considering how much investment and development we have right now.

[MontanaGuy]

If there was a competition for dull this building would be pretty tough to beat!

[nashmoney]

Wait...is this a state office building? I'm confused. Where are the balconies? I've never understood urban living without some kind of balcony or Juliette window. Just an enclosed cold gray concrete and glass box you're living in. 

Looks depressing, because most time floor to ceiling windows do not open. They could have at least put more than one person in that render lol. 

Edited December 6, 2022 by nashmoney

[Nashville Cliff]

On 8/11/2022 at 9:33 AM, natethegreat said:

Please move the rescue mission. This area is no place for the homeless to gather.

Why is this place any worse than any other?  They need to be near social and government services, etc.

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Nashville Cliff

[henburg]

On 12/5/2022 at 8:11 AM, markhollin said:

 

The renderings are truly stunning, but there is clearly something way off with either the scale of the proposals shown, or the height figures provided in this chart. The Ritz Carlton is by far the tallest building in every angle, yet is listed at 396' and dwarfs the neighboring Circle South at 445' and 800 Lea at 600' tall. It's not perspective tricks either, because even in the distanced shots from Fort Negley, the Ritz is clearly illustrated as the tallest building in the shot. 

[MLBrumby]

The taller Ritz tower will be 570’.

[Luvemtall]

Although not the best looking tower design, it’s not exactly the Haven either! Not much could get worse then that multicolored mess. This is a great improvement from the current use. I’ve heard rumors about the possibility that City Winery site , might turn into another tower project, does anyone have any intel on that?