Woven - West Greenville Village

[vicupstate]

[GvilleSC]

Happy to see urbanizing projects proposed for the Village. I assume, and hope, that those spaces fronting Pendleton are studios or retail spaces. Looking forward to hearing more on this proposal! 

[vicupstate]

[GvilleSC]

Wow! That's not at all what I was expecting. I appreciate the artful play on the balconies, though I wish they'd incorporate more whimsical elements (through art, murals, pops of color). 

[vicupstate]

 

Woodfield is the developer, which did The Greene and is building the 408 Joe Jackson project now under construction. 

 

12-13k SF for commercial use.

Morgan House at 6 Smith Street will be moved across the street to 9 Smith Street.  May be used for artist space and will be a transition from the 5 story project's height to the 1 story mill housing on Smith. There will also be a public green space to also provide transition.  

5 commercial bays of 400-500SF each will be rented at below market rates for artists and non-profits.  

36 public parking spaces in the garage. Negotiating with the city for the city to manage the garage.

10% will be affordable housing at 80% average income.  Under negotiations now to change to 20% at 60% average income. 

DRB was unanimously favorable in its comments in today's Informal review.  One member mentioned to be more liberal with 'artistic elements' given it is in an artist district already. 

 

[GvilleSC]

This all sounds rather impressive and quite good. Thanks for attending/tuning in and reporting back! 

[GVLer]

Nice!

[Asheville_Bob]

How about a map that allows the viewer to zoom in and out.  For example, I'd like to see the streets that border the new development.

[Horatio Nelson]

4 hours ago, Asheville_Bob said:

How about a map that allows the viewer to zoom in and out.  For example, I'd like to see the streets that border the new development.

 

[SVL]

https://greenvillejournal.com/community/woven-could-be-the-first-major-development-in-the-village-of-west-greenville-sc/

[vicupstate]

[vicupstate]

Lots of opposition at Planning Commission. They voted to recommend denial to council. I THINK the developer make changes and resubmit to PC, but I was really fuzzy on that. 

[gman430]

19 minutes ago, vicupstate said:

Lots of opposition at Planning Commission. They voted to recommend denial to council. I THINK the developer make changes and resubmit to PC, but I was really fuzzy on that. 

Sad that the commission caved to the NIMBY’s especially seeing how this same commission recommended approval according to the pdf document. Hopefully city council thinks otherwise and sees that this project is worth approving even with the naysayers. 

Edited July 21, 2022 by gman430

[vicupstate]

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ad that the commission caved to the NIMBY’s especially seeing how this same commission recommended approval according to the pdf document.

That was the DRB. 

[distortedlogic]

I might be in the minority but I'm kinda glad it did not get approved in it's current form. The project may a be a bit too large for the area, especially at this time when it would be the first new building in the village. I also think the architecture is wrong for the area; it really needs to be a bit more traditional  with more character; that modernist stuff will look way out of place.

[chuckyvt]

1 hour ago, vicupstate said:

That was the DRB. 

The city staff recommended the planning commission recommend approval.   Write your city council rep if you want to help get it approved.  

[gman430]

1 hour ago, vicupstate said:

That was the DRB. 

https://www.greenvillesc.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/9839?fileID=54199 

Staff recommendation for the planning commission on the first page of the document attached says approval with conditions.

Edited July 22, 2022 by gman430

[gman430]

1 hour ago, distortedlogic said:

I might be in the minority but I'm kinda glad it did not get approved in it's current form. The project may a be a bit too large for the area, especially at this time when it would be the first new building in the village. I also think the architecture is wrong for the area; it really needs to be a bit more traditional  with more character; that modernist stuff will look way out of place.

Not sure what you mean. Brandon Mill is literally right across the street from this site and it's right around the same size and height as what this project would be. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by gman430

[vicupstate]

6 hours ago, gman430 said:

https://www.greenvillesc.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/9839?fileID=54199 

Staff recommendation for the planning commission on the first page of the document attached says approval with conditions.

That's correct. The staff though, not the commission.  The DRB gave an informal review with the comments provided to the commission, which were pretty much all positive. 

[GvilleSC]

With the amount of stuff planned for The Village, this will not be 'out of place' for very long (though, I don't believe that to be an appropriate criticism currently). If they discourage the density, then the gentrification and affordability challenges will only be made worse. 

I support the DRB's comments that developers should take opportunities for creativity within the Village. The arts district will lose its charm and character if we inject neoclassical buildings. 

[PuppiesandKittens]

Some of those buildings are very attractive, but the ones with the aqua/green boxes around windows aren't--why in the world would anyone think that will look nice in 20 years?

[distortedlogic]

11 hours ago, gman430 said:

Not sure what you mean. Brandon Mill is literally right across the street from this site and it's right around the same size and height as what this project would be. 

It means what it says. I think the massing of this building will look out of place for where it will be. The Mill is not right there as you drive down that little main st, it is set back. This building as proposed would overwhelm the other little buildings there. And... I don't like the architecture. I think it would be nice for the village to have a more artistic and character driven feel to it's architecture; there's enough of this boxy modern stuff everywhere else.  JMO.

[gman430]

7 minutes ago, vicupstate said:

Woven rezoning

As expected, Woven is on the Planning Commission agenda for August. 

That’s not Woven. This is the Mosiac project. 

[vicupstate]

16 minutes ago, gman430 said:

That’s not Woven. This is the Mosiac project. 

Fixed. Thanks. 

[vicupstate]

City Council approved on first reading with AMENDMENTS.  High likelihood that changes may be made on the ordinance at 2nd reading.  Voting for were Brasington, Stall, DeWorken and Mayor White.  Gibson and Dowe voting against. I  couldn't hear how Fleming voted. 

Amendments included all the staff's recommendations, an expended pocket park and I believe a step-back on the top floor in the rear, a separate review of the public spaces.      

The developer has already agreed to expand the pocket park to include 10 Saco St. to the already included 9 Smith Street.