901 King Blvd. (33 stories/375', 250 residential units)

[Bos2Nash]

1 hour ago, PillowTalk4 said:

I wish Embassy Suites had done the same on the Broadway side of their building.

Unfortunately it all comes down to money haha. Steinway is selling units between 18 and 66 million dollars. Embassy Suites Downtown is renting rooms tonight for $250. 

[Baronakim]

1 hour ago, PillowTalk4 said:

Bos2Nash, I was really trying to understand why windows could only be on two sides of a proposed building for this site because I've seen the Steinway Tower in NYC which is the tallest skinny building in the world and I remember seeing windows on each side and the lot it sits on is about 60 feet wide.  But, I found diagrams below and after reading about the building materials used, it helped me understand that some glass is incorporated into the cladding  on the east and west sides of the building but actual window space is very limited.  I wish Embassy Suites had done the same on the Broadway side of their building.  

Thanks for your insight!

Sorry but a multistory tower is not going to be approved with only one stair exit

[Armacing]

4 hours ago, PillowTalk4 said:

Bos2Nash, I was really trying to understand why windows could only be on two sides of a proposed building for this site because I've seen the Steinway Tower in NYC which is the tallest skinny building in the world

As I understand it, all of the Tall & Skinnies in NYC were made possible by the developer purchasing extensive air rights for all the surrounding shorter buildings (a possibility that Bos2Nash suggested)... So that would definitely be a means for Tony to increase the utility of his land by controlling the air above his neighbors.  He might not even need to control all the air rights over TSU... just enough to produce the desired effect around his new tower.

[smeagolsfree]

He may not need to go tall enough for bonus height from what I am think now. I think the base zoning is 30 but not sure. Bos2Nash will know for sure. I do not think he will go taller than that since it will be affordable housing. The taller you go the more expensive you get. With affordable, you have to keep cost in line.

[Archibum]

20 hours ago, Baronakim said:

Sorry but a multistory tower is not going to be approved with only one stair exit

The plan actually shows a scissor stair, so two stair exits intertwined, like a DNA strand. I think its allowed by code in NY because of the constraints placed on many of the super slender towers. I haven't looked into whether the code adopted in Nashville allows for a scissor stair.

[Bos2Nash]

36 minutes ago, Archibum said:

The plan actually shows a scissor stair, so two stair exits intertwined, like a DNA strand. I think its allowed by code in NY because of the constraints placed on many of the super slender towers. I haven't looked into whether the code adopted in Nashville allows for a scissor stair.

I've actually had conversations with codes recently regarding interlocking stairs (essentially scissor stairs, but fire separated). Scissor stairs are not allowed by the code (NYC probably has and amendment allowing it), because they deem them as two stairs within a single shaft. So if one stair is compromised, then the whole shaft is essentially compromised. If the scissor stairs are separated at the same fire rating at the shaft enclosure, then the code deems these two stairs that are interlocked. Codes hasn't liked this in the past (so I am told), but seemed amenable to utilizing them presuming all diagonals and exit isolations are met when discussing it recently.

[Baronakim]

1 hour ago, Bos2Nash said:

I've actually had conversations with codes recently regarding interlocking stairs (essentially scissor stairs, but fire separated). Scissor stairs are not allowed by the code (NYC probably has and amendment allowing it), because they deem them as two stairs within a single shaft. So if one stair is compromised, then the whole shaft is essentially compromised. If the scissor stairs are separated at the same fire rating at the shaft enclosure, then the code deems these two stairs that are interlocked. Codes hasn't liked this in the past (so I am told), but seemed amenable to utilizing them presuming all diagonals and exit isolations are met when discussing it recently.

A possible solution.  Not a  great one, but possible I admit.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Baronakim

[colemangaines]

 

The video on Giarratana's website shows a stand-in rendering for this site. I'm sure it isn't representative of what it'll end up looking like but it's still cool to see a tower on that lot.

[markhollin]

Screenshot enlargements from the video mentioned above show this initial rendering at 33-34 stories.  May simply be an initial massing concept, so we shouldn't put too much emphasis on the final design...although it does seem to echo the style of the Snodgrass Tower to the east.  Also interesting that it is widows on all 4 sides.  Perhaps there has been an agreement with TSU Avon Campus that if they are to build vertically they will leave enough space between towers to alleviate fire code concerns. 
 

[Bos2Nash]

I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this design. Probably just a placeholder. If TSU was making an agreement, I'm pretty sure that would've been made public as that is a public institution and selling off their air rights would drastically harm their property value. 

[titanhog]

We can name it “Snoddy” or “Baby Snod"

[donNdonelson2]

1 hour ago, titanhog said:

We can name it “Snoddy” or “Baby Snod"

In the fashion of the day, it could be “Lil Snoddy.”

[markhollin]

A rendering showing the structure at 33 stories and about 355' (although design details are still not finalized by architect Goettsch Partners), plus info on how the tower's financing package could  include a new local tax incentive designed to quickly create housing developments that offer a broader range of rents. 

Metro's mixed-income PILOT program simplifies the complex affordable-housing financing landscape. Nashville will forgo most of the property taxes on certain new residential developments for 15 years, provided they serve a mix of incomes and include a significant number of units priced below market rate. There is a $3 million annual cap on the discount.

"The Mixed-Income PILOT (payment-in-lieu-of-taxes program), with its initial investment of $3 million, not only creates much needed units; this tool also prioritizes housing within economically-integrated communities," said Metro Planning spokesperson Richel Albright.

The PILOT program requires participating residential developers to rent a percentage of units to people whose salaries are below the area's median income, which, for example, is $96,700 for a family of four in Nashville. In return, the developer gets a property-tax discount. The tax break is only good on newly created tax revenue from the development, so the deal is designed to only add to Metro's existing streams of income.

Developer Tony Giarratana commissioned a rendering of the mixed-income high-rise but hasn't yet finalized design details. His deal with Metro would require that 40% of the building's apartments be rented to people who earn 75% of the area-median income.

More  behind The Tennessean paywall here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2022/09/12/new-nashville-tax-break-aims-quickly-expand-below-market-rents/8027361001/


And behind The Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/image-released-for-high-rise-planned-for-downtown/article_f9a2da48-32bf-11ed-adea-3ffc6e38ccca.html

[nashville born]

Nice.

[Deangelo]

16 minutes ago, markhollin said:

A rendering showing the structure at 34 stories (although design details are still not finalized), plus info on how the tower's financing package could  include a new local tax incentive designed to quickly create housing developments that offer a broader range of rents. 

Metro's mixed-income PILOT program simplifies the complex affordable-housing financing landscape. Nashville will forgo most of the property taxes on certain new residential developments for 15 years, provided they serve a mix of incomes and include a significant number of units priced below market rate. There is a $3 million annual cap on the discount.

"The Mixed-Income PILOT (payment-in-lieu-of-taxes program), with its initial investment of $3 million, not only creates much needed units; this tool also prioritizes housing within economically-integrated communities," said Metro Planning spokesperson Richel Albright.

The PILOT program requires participating residential developers to rent a percentage of units to people whose salaries are below the area's median income, which, for example, is $96,700 for a family of four in Nashville. In return, the developer gets a property-tax discount. The tax break is only good on newly created tax revenue from the development, so the deal is designed to only add to Metro's existing streams of income.

Developer Tony Giarratana commissioned a rendering of the mixed-income high-rise but hasn't yet finalized design details. His deal with Metro would require that 40% of the building's apartments be rented to people who earn 75% of the area-median income.

More  behind The Tennessean paywall here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2022/09/12/new-nashville-tax-break-aims-quickly-expand-below-market-rents/8027361001/
 

Definitely a nice design, It looks like a 300 footer or 400 footer and if it gets built it would expand the nashville skyline 

[jjbradleyBrooklyn]

Very sleek aesthetic and design. It's so "NYC" the way Giarratana seems to pick oddly shaped,  smaller lots, and focus on building towers there.

I like his thinking to utilize tighter space in unique ways by going vertical. This should be the thinking for much more dense development in all cities. Most in the sunbelt and in Nashville's tier of cities, don't build that way, consistently.

So it's awesome to see a developer doing this.

 

[UrbanWes03]

It’s also great to see this has no parking! That’s why he can develop a lot of these uniquely shaped lots. Love to see it. Even though these renderings aren’t final, they look great. 

[rolly]

It's quite swell, but I kinda liked when it looked like an ode to Snodgrass tower.

[smeagolsfree]

21 hours ago, jjbradleyBrooklyn said:

Very sleek aesthetic and design. It's so "NYC" the way Giarratana seems to pick oddly shaped,  smaller lots, and focus on building towers there.

I like his thinking to utilize tighter space in unique ways by going vertical. This should be the thinking for much more dense development in all cities. Most in the sunbelt and in Nashville's tier of cities, don't build that way, consistently.

So it's awesome to see a developer doing this.

 

That is very astute of you to notice that. It sort of came up in another conversation somewhere else in a tower far far away.

[markhollin]

NBJ coverage of the announcement:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/09/21/giarratana-metro-affordable-housing-program.html

[bnacincy]

Nothing spectacular, but decent enough.

[subkyle]

Crappy pic but it looks like they are tearing down the one story structure on the property 

 

[Luvemtall]

26 minutes ago, subkyle said:

Crappy pic but it looks like they are tearing down the one story structure on the property 

 

Is this one that far along , that demo is already taking place? Have permits showed up regarding grading, foundation? 

[donNdonelson2]

18 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:

Is this one that far along , that demo is already taking place? Have permits showed up regarding grading, foundation? 

Foundation permits have been issued! Read about it on the November 1 post on the thread for that project.

[lmc123]

Perfect timing

! 

Edited November 7, 2022 by lmc123