Captial Plaza III

[bic]

The Monarch is a really slick looking building....and the Church/Eola is pretty nice too. But I'm really hoping that an iteration or two of the design of Capital Plaza III will turn it around cause right now it's not doing anything for me.

The rapid transformation of Eola South into this hip urban neighborhood full of 20-story residential buildings is almost shocking to me. I wonder if North Eola will undergo similar development.

[prahaboheme]

Capital III isn't doing much for me either, the driveway seems really unnecessary.

[Dale]

I guess this is the image from South Street.  So yes, east of the parking garage.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I've been worried to death about where I was going to land my helicopter.

[firemick]

Thats the new BBARCH visor/helo landing pad. It seems they want to compete with Ridgley's Lear Jet ownership plan.

[Dale]

Thats the new BBARCH visor/helo landing pad. It seems they want to compete with Ridgley's Lear Jet ownership plan. 

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'd forgotten about the Lear Jet deal. Now I'm really torn. B)

[firemick]

I likey alotty, i cant wait to find out more about Monarch Tower. Its got that Waverly resemblence but a litttle bit taller and with a pool deck and its not really that wavy but like a trapezoidal design.

Edited July 1, 2005 by firemick

[streetscaper]

I'm thoroughly impressed with downtown Orlando's boom, it's gonna be wicked in a few years B)

[sunshine]

Lakelander

the streetcar system was in the Orlando masterplan

[UPSDAN]

Edited July 2, 2005 by UPSDAN

[Jaybee]

That's so ugly I can barely stand to look at it. What's that on the bottom, a monkey cage or a parking garage?

Edited July 2, 2005 by Jaybee

[bic]

That's a pretty drab design, but looking at the Cooper Carry web site (coopercarry.com) shows that at least this architectural firm has tons of design experience with hugely significant projects. Not only that, but their other designs are actually quite nice.

It seems to me like this overly conservative design has the potential to blossom into something much greater after some reevaluation.

[sunshine]

This is just about the same plan as the Plaza.

Anyway, is there any secret projects gonna replace the Plaza at Lutheran projects?

[UPSDAN]

This Capital Plaza III is pretty boring. Looks like it was designed with LEGO's. I don't think it will go good even with Capital Plaza I and II, not to mention Tradition Towers across the street.

[cwetteland]

I think it might clean up well with a little more design work. It needs a bit more business look than Monarch or Paramont which are primarily residential. The building in the back has a CNL look to it; which I like but I hope it doesn't stay white. I like the rose marble that CNL used. It looks like they are putting in retail on the ground floor of the two Rosalind facing buildings. The architects talk the new urban people-connection language. We'll see if it's just talk.

[prahaboheme]

But can anyone answer my question, what is the purpose of the driveway if these people are so urban?

[cwetteland]

But can anyone answer my question, what is the purpose of the driveway if these people are so urban?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The people in the condo, yes, urbanites. But you can't expect all the office workers in the office building to be from down the block.

[cwetteland]

And since you have what looks like a condo and a hotel ... It makes for a good place for taxis to drop off and pick up. Embassy suites has a driveway for taxis.

[prahaboheme]

There are ways to create drop off/pick up points without this sort of execution (the Westin Grand Bohemian for instance). Seems like a huge waste of valuable space.

Edited July 3, 2005 by prahaboheme

[cwetteland]

I see a lot of trees in that corridor. I don't have a problem with trees. I think trees are kinda nice. I don't see making room for trees as a waist at all. And if you can provide a dual use of using it for drop offs then that's just a bonus.

[accatt2204]

The dropoff area appears to me to appear almost as a side street, as I expect it to have retail space around there which would improve the urbanity in that area in my opinion.

[prahaboheme]

Well from what I see I don't agree. The "street" looks like a dead end.

[accatt2204]

Well, if they put homes or something I would agree, but since it is a plaza style, wall of concrete type dead end, it only allows for more restaurants and retail similiar to wall street plaza area. But I can see where youre coming from as far as it catering to vehicles in a way.

[sunshine]

That block is not really that big. The driveway will more than likely very narrow. Just same as the plaza project, when we see the rendering, everybody was complaining about the small "plaza" area in the center, but now when it is being built, it looks very small compare to the rendeing.

If they are gonna have shops and restaurant on both side of the driveway, I think it will be really good. If the driveway is as big as it showed, the building at the end of the drieway must be extremely narrow.

[UPSDAN]

^Is the building at the end of the driveway on top of the existing garage?

[cwetteland]

^ Agree. Capital Plaza II did a good thing by putting in a Sam Snead's. Hopefully CP III will expand on that.