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The Grand River?! You mean GR has a River?

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4 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

Any yacht of any size would take hours to go from Grand Haven up to Grand Rapids. Even if they dredge it enough to not have a "no wake" zone, big yachts are not going to risk going fast up that river with all the dead heads and sh*t in it. A river as wild as the Grand is in the Spring and heavy rainfalls is going to constantly need to be dredged. 

Unless I'm missing something.

I'm not too optimistic about it either. Boats are already costly to maintain. Add the price of fuel to go down the Grand and you already have a very small percentile to work with. Not sure any business doing a "river cruise" would do to well either. "To our left, an industrial park and a wastewater plant. If you look a little further down the river, you may be able to see a castle!"

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4 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

Any yacht of any size would take hours to go from Grand Haven up to Grand Rapids. Even if they dredge it enough to not have a "no wake" zone, big yachts are not going to risk going fast up that river with all the dead heads and sh*t in it. A river as wild as the Grand is in the Spring and heavy rainfalls is going to constantly need to be dredged. 

Unless I'm missing something.

I was mostly dreaming. 

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23 hours ago, EastownLeo said:

This would only increase the possibility of flooding to the area because the river rises so high in the spring.  In many places the highway acts as a damn.

They would need a flood gate like the locks at Sault or something which can be opened for summer and closed for winter, I'd image.  No idea how costly or practical that would be.

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18 hours ago, wingbert said:

Well sure, it wouldn't all happen overnight.  The real question is whether cities like Grand Rapids and Grandville would embrace the opportunity with zoning and permitting to allow for the types of businesses with docks and tie-ups to appeal to boaters seeking food, supplies, etc.  There's tons of boat traffic on the inland waterway from Cheboygan to Indian River and beyond or from Elk Rapids to Torch Lake and back.  That's lots of river travel.  People will do it just to say they did it.  Boating in and of itself, is a rather irrational endeavor.  Sometimes you feel like it would be better to just stand at the end of the dock and throw money into the water.

Haha, that is true. People who have boats (present company included) do feel this unending guilt that they own it and should use it somewhere, anywhere. 

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It was dredged and used commercially at one point. There's no real obstacles along the way so it's a unique opportunity to utilize that most cities do not have. Saginaw still dredges and utilizes that river at a little less distance. It's obviously not necessary but would be an a some thjng for the area. 

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On 5/9/2017 at 0:56 PM, tSlater said:

They would need a flood gate like the locks at Sault or something which can be opened for summer and closed for winter, I'd image.  No idea how costly or practical that would be.

Those "ponds" on both sides of the freeway from Grandville to Market street are old gravel pits. The underlying material is gravel, very "porous" that lets the ground water flow back and forth plus there are culverts under the freeway.

Next spring notice the water elevation in the ponds follows the river elevation.

As for no wake zones, they are in place where there's a number boats tied up at docks or where the banks are eroding. There are a number of non no-wake zones. I've boated up to the Bass River area and have not seen any logs or dead heads in the summer.

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The "Coldbrook Edge" trail had a ribbon cutting recently. This is the extension North of Canal Park up to Leonard. Other than the big ugly power lines, it's pretty nice.

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45 minutes ago, joeDowntown said:

Impromptu skatepark (skateboarding is not a crime). :)

Joe

Already peeped on Instagram some friends skating it. Same thing with the MSU spot.

:ph34r:skateboarding is not a crime:ph34r:

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3 hours ago, GR_Urbanist said:

They could have at least not had an electrical pole sticking right in the middle of it! :rofl:

 

Stay classy, GR. :lol:

That's called artistic license. :)

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I forgot to add these of the new project on Monroe. It's actually tucked into a very nice setting (red winged blackbirds swooping at walkers notwithstanding).

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28 minutes ago, GRDadof3 said:

I forgot to add these of the new project on Monroe. It's actually tucked into a very nice setting (red winged blackbirds swooping at walkers notwithstanding).

 

HAH!  This happened to me there Saturday like 3 times.  It also happened to me two nights ago near the labor fountain by the Ford Museum.  Why are the birds in that area so aggressive right now??

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2 minutes ago, MJLO said:

HAH!  This happened to me there Saturday like 3 times.  It also happened to me two nights ago near the labor fountain by the Ford Museum.  Why are the birds in that area so aggressive right now??

Always have been.  My wife walks the bridge to in between the Amway and DeVos Place and people have been bleeding from the birds!!

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4 minutes ago, MJLO said:

HAH!  This happened to me there Saturday like 3 times.  It also happened to me two nights ago near the labor fountain by the Ford Museum.  Why are the birds in that area so aggressive right now??

Me too! A bird followed all the way along the Van Andel Museum last week. Attacked the top of my head whenever I was facing away from it.

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I don't really know if this is the "real real deal" or not, because there have been so many updates and non-updates on this project, but on the Design Team agenda for the 28th, there's an item for a $35 Million project to restore the rapids in the Grand River. Presenters are Matt Chapman from Grand Rapids Whitewater and Quinn Donnelly of RiverRestoration.org. (link added to see their portfolio of similar projects). Timeline in the packet:

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13 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

I don't really know if this is the "real real deal" or not, because there have been so many updates and non-updates on this project, but on the Design Team agenda for the 28th, there's an item for a $35 Million project to restore the rapids in the Grand River. Presenters are Matt Chapman from Grand Rapids Whitewater and Quinn Donnelly of RiverRestoration.org. (link added to see their portfolio of similar projects). Timeline in the packet:

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So cool. Really wish it had a more aggressive timeline. Let's get this thing done. Where's the Kickstarter page?! :)

Joe

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5 hours ago, WMrapids said:

Well wish it was 2017

They're going to start modifying the dam in 2020, that's only a couple of years away. It will go fast. 

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7 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

They're going to start modifying the dam in 2020, that's only a couple of years away. It will go fast. 

I just think bought it es funny that I remembered putting on here that they'd be in the river making changes in 2017. I posted that almost two years ago and in two years (according to these plans) they should be in the river. Time goes by so fast now.

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I'm really looking forward to this. I love stand up paddle boarding so maybe I'll have to take up river surfing! :) This is one of the projects riverrestoration.org did in Colorado. 

 

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