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4 hours ago, I am Reality said:

I won't get too much into specifics about the hospital rankings, other than to say Florida Hospital does not have a reputation as a world-class medical facility.  It just doesn't.

Having said that, it's a fine hospital and I have no problem with it.  I am comfortable going there (as my father just was; he got excellent care).  But I will also tell you my family has travelled elsewhere several times for better medical care while living here.  (Langone, Emory, CHOP).

As far as the college rankings, I agree that the best university here is UF.  But Rollins is also a fine school.  I personally have no love for smaller regional schools.  But for what it is, Rollins is top-notch.  I give it credit for focusing laserlike on its strengthes.  It hasn't grown  too much, doesn't try to be everything-for-everybody, and hasn't added programs outside if its core competency.  If I have one criticism of Rollins . . . it lacks a large local impact.  But that does not take away from what it has accomplished.

 

 

Likewise, I have no problem with Rollins.  I think Cleveland Clinic rides on  the coattails of it's mother campus in Cuyahoga.  Same with Mayo I think.  I don't necessarily think that FH is a super good health center, although it's FH South campus is awesome.  You are correct about reputation and I agree.  But even on that, Shands' reputation far exceeds Tampa General's.  And perhaps Jackson memorial with UM's Med School might also as well.  I'm no expert by any stretch...but it looks like reputation far exceeds actual infrastructure in these rankings. IMO, you're not going to have good or great infrastructure if the facility stinks.  I dislike hospitals in general, but that aside, you know, these rankings are...interesting...to say the least.

BTW, I saw Shands' newest additions not too long ago.  In the words of Darth Vader to Luke Skywalker in ESB..."Impressive...most impressive..."  That master plan construction is in full swing.  They've been at it for the past 6 or so years.  It's so insane it's silly.  They've got a lot of cash too.

3 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Adventist Health has always been the name of the parent company.

I'm guessing they just want to get away from a location-specific name while also dropping the word hospital, in order to sound like a more all encompassing type of health organization.

It's like Shands… Now they are UF Health... And, technically, like ORMC or ORHS or Orlando Health

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4 hours ago, jrs2 said:

It's like Shands… Now they are UF Health... And, technically, like ORMC or ORHS or Orlando Health

I think they are all getting away from the word "hospital" in their titles and replacing it with the term "health". Probably creates a more positive impression. I guess hospital negatively implies a place where sick people go, whereas health sounds positive, like a place where people go to get healthy.

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A great look by Scott Maxwell at Amendment 3, the latest run at casino gambling in Florida:

Disney, Seminole Tribe team up with $26 million to keep casino competition out of Florida
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-casino-ban-florida-disney-seminoles-scott-maxwell-20180813-story.html

From the Sentinel

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On 8/15/2018 at 9:49 PM, JFW657 said:

I think they are all getting away from the word "hospital" in their titles and replacing it with the term "health". Probably creates a more positive impression. I guess hospital negatively implies a place where sick people go, whereas health sounds positive, like a place where people go to get healthy.

The negative association of "hospital" is part of it, as is the idea that a hospital is a building. A lot of these health care systems increasingly rely on their network of affiliated and/or employed physicians  as their primary pipeline for getting patients. Slapping the name "hospital" on the shingle of a neighborhood primary care physician can be confusing. Saying Dr. Smith is part of Orlando Health or Adventist Health is more easily understood than saying they or their office are part of a "hospital". 

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8 minutes ago, mdeancherry said:

The negative association of "hospital" is part of it, as is the idea that a hospital is a building. A lot of these health care systems increasingly rely on their network of affiliated and/or employed physicians  as their primary pipeline for getting patients. Slapping the name "hospital" on the shingle of a neighborhood primary care physician can be confusing. Saying Dr. Smith is part of Orlando Health or Adventist Health is more easily understood than saying they or their office are part of a "hospital". 

Welcome to the Orlando forum - glad to have you witrh us!

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On 8/14/2018 at 2:34 PM, spenser1058 said:

New name coming for Florida Hospital in 2019: AdventHealth. Wonder what the new signage will look like?


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/health/os-adventist-health-system-new-brand-20180813-story.html

From the Sentinel

So we have a logo:

https://adventhealth.com/florida?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=brand_brand_fl_cs_na&utm_term=advent health&utm_content=64902153104&hcmacid=a054100000hkybz

I must say it's an improvement over the one for Florida Hospital, which didn't seem to mean anything to anyone but the graphic artist who created it. They do seem to be playing up their ties to the Adventists more so than they have in years.

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On 8/19/2018 at 3:20 PM, spenser1058 said:

So we have a logo:

https://adventhealth.com/florida?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=brand_brand_fl_cs_na&utm_term=advent health&utm_content=64902153104&hcmacid=a054100000hkybz

I must say it's an improvement over the one for Florida Hospital, which didn't seem to mean anything to anyone but the graphic artist who created it. They do seem to be playing up their ties to the Adventists more so than they have in years.

 

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People come here for all sorts of reasons but usually because they believe there's a good future to be had, in this case up in Lake Mary:

Another sign Seminole County is booming: 'Nothing Bundt Cakes' comes to town
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/audience/shannon-green/os-ae-nothing-bundt-cakes-opens-in-lake-mary-20180823-story.html

From the Sentinel

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OK, if you've been putting it off or just waiting like JFW for the big party, today's the day! Polls are open 7am-7pm and not only are there races that require you to be registered as a Democrat or Republican, there are also huge nonpartisan ones like OC Mayor that everyone can vote in.

So, if you haven't, GO VOTE!

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Rent is higher for Orlando apartments than Tampa or Jax but Tampa continues to build more apartments:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/business/Tampa-Bay-leads-Orlando-and-Jacksonville-in-apartment-construction_171698145?template=amp

From the St. Pete Times

The Times makes the case Tampa Bay is larger (which it is) but Orlando's growing faster (TB 11% vs Orlando 17.5%).

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23 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

Rent is higher for Orlando apartments than Tampa or Jax but Tampa continues to build more apartments:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/business/Tampa-Bay-leads-Orlando-and-Jacksonville-in-apartment-construction_171698145?template=amp

From the St. Pete Times

The Times makes the case Tampa Bay is larger (which it is) but Orlando's growing faster (TB 11% vs Orlando 17.5%).

I was in Tampa last week, between downtown and Ibor, and I noticed a lot of those mid-rise apartment building projects that have been built the past decade and more recently, and some that were u/c.  Per capita, it does make sense; Hillsborough is growing too.  

it's a little scary that there are so many renters versus homeowners.  wasn't that the case in the Late '90's. when they built Waverly then began converting it to condos when the condo trend was occurring?  Maybe it's a cyclical thing...

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14 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

I was in Tampa last week, between downtown and Ibor, and I noticed a lot of those mid-rise apartment building projects that have been built the past decade and more recently, and some that were u/c.  Per capita, it does make sense; Hillsborough is growing too.  

it's a little scary that there are so many renters versus homeowners.  wasn't that the case in the Late '90's. when they built Waverly then began converting it to condos when the condo trend was occurring?  Maybe it's a cyclical thing...

Apartments seem to work ok for the most part. It's when they go condo that things seem to crash and burn. I assume it's because, as long as you're growing, it's easy to evict and replace. Also , with apartments one firm is tending to things instead of the silly battles of HOAs.

As far as growth goes, Orlando is growing 1/3 faster than Tampa (truth be told, it's probably more now.) If we were Ocala and growing that fast, that would be one thing. With 2.5 million folks, that's YUGE.

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Orlando Weekly picks up on an article from Forbes about the state of buying, selling and renting in the metro.

Another interesting stat in the article is that we grew even faster from 2013-2018 (14%) than the Census Bureau thinks we did from 2010-2017 (13.7%) Watch for us to break into the Top 20 MSA's for the 2020 census! 

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/09/17/its-a-perfect-time-to-be-a-slumlord-in-orlando?media=AMP+HTML

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Bulletin-18-04.pdf

OMB has updated its MSAs and CSAs. There were a few slight changes in general. Orlando’s MSA wasn’t touched but on page 140, its CSA added Wauchula and Lakeland’s MSAs, which adds close to 750,000 people to Orlando’s CSA. Combined statistical areas are irrelevant to me but it’s still pretty interesting that Lakeland is viewed by the White House as more in sync with Orlando than Tampa (which doesn’t have a CSA for some odd reason).

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The Orlando Weekly takes a deep dive into how the Downtown Ambassador Program is going and how that's affecting panhandling in the core:

https://m.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/orlando-is-throwing-money-at-the-aggressive-panhandling-problem-but-is-it-a-boon-for-the-public-or-just-a-way-to-keep-the-chronically-home/Content?oid=18876674o

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