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Hard Rock Hotel Biloxi

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The Hard Rock Hotel and Casino will be opening in Biloxi in September, though a "soft opening" is likely for late August. The building is less adventurous than I had hoped it might be. Still, I am curious about the interiors, as the place was designed by the Paul Steelman Group of Las Vegas. It should have more of an edge than anything else on the Coast. This is a link to the construction cam....

http://www.hardrockbiloxi.com/construction_cam.php

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The Hard Rock Hotel and Casino will be opening in Biloxi in September, though a "soft opening" is likely for late August.  The building is less adventurous than I had hoped it might be.  Still, I am curious about the interiors, as the place was designed by the Paul Steelman Group of Las Vegas.  It should have more of an edge than anything else on the Coast.    This is a link to the construction cam....

    http://www.hardrockbiloxi.com/construction_cam.php

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Although it is an interesting development and was progressing nicely the last time I was in Biloxi, I have no idea what a Mississippi casino has to do with "Alabama". ;)

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Perhaps a Mississippi forum would be in order?

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See! This just pisses me off. Ok, not at Biloxi, but at Alabama. If this state would get its nose out of the bible, we could have done this also. Mississippi scored one on us with these casinos and no offense to Mississippi, but being one upped by them ticks me off.

We are also surrounded by lotteries. We are an island of poo in a sea of money! GRRR!

/rant

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See!  This just pisses me off.  Ok, not at Biloxi, but at Alabama.  If this state would get its nose out of the bible, we could have done this also.  Mississippi scored one on us with these casinos and no offense to Mississippi, but being one upped by them ticks me off.

We are also surrounded by lotteries.  We are an island of poo in a sea of money!  GRRR!

/rant

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Great point. What makes it even more frustrating is that the anti-gamblers in our state can't seem to understand that gambling or no gambling simply isn't important enough in the grand scheme of things to fight over. Mississippi, and every surrounding state for that matter understands that it isn't their moral duty to eliminate what they consider immoral in OTHER people's lives. I guess folks in surrounding states realize they are better off tending to the issues in their own lives.

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Great point.  What makes it even more frustrating is that the anti-gamblers in our state can't seem to understand that gambling or no gambling simply isn't important enough in the grand scheme of things to fight over. Mississippi, and every surrounding state for that matter understands that it isn't their moral duty to eliminate what they consider immoral in OTHER people's lives.  I guess folks in surrounding states realize they are better off tending to the issues in their own lives.

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Everytime I go to the casino, any of them, the majority of car tags in the parking lots are from Alabama.

Same with the Georgia lottery. I pick up my tickets just outside Rome, which is only a quick little drive from Gadsden, and again, at the store I stop at to buy the tickets, Alabama people. Everywhere.

The state knows this, and yanno what else gets me? The same bible thumpers that piss and moan against gambling in Alabama, well, they are going to the casinos too.

An example. At my mom's church, every first Thursday of the month, a van leaves from the church and goes to Philadelphia. For what? Yup, to gamble, but you wait until the state proposes the lottery again, and you will hear these very same people wail like horny banshees. Hypocrits. The whole damn lot of em.

ok. /rant yet again. :P

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The next time we have a referendum for a lottery, those officials from surrounding states that run the lottery/gambling corporations will give money to keep Alabama from getting a lottery, like MS did last time. We're the only reason that TN's lottery has kept afloat. All of the top 10 TN lottery locations are right across the border from Huntsville. It's sad to see that we're funding other states' education systems, but not ours.

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Early reports indicate that the Hard Rock Casino and Hotel were both heavily damaged and will have to be completely rebuilt.

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It's sad to see that we're funding other states' education systems, but not ours.

Gambling, the lottery and other vices are no way to fund a state's education system and it is shameful that states do this. By the way, I dont see Mississippi leading the way in the Southeast (or Nevada in the West) with their legalized gambling and FL hasnt improved much from our cellar dweller education performance either due to the lottery being in FL. This is a huge myth largely perpetrated by big gambling interests such as Harrahs, etc. Everyone is worried about "big oil" but no one is concerned re "big casinos" even though casinos and gambling hurt more families than oil companies. Dont fall for this.

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Amazingly the Giant Guitar Sign survived, but the hotel is bad off and the casiono looks to be a total loss.

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Ugh. I feel like crap for having made my comments now. :(

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I was surprised to learn that when the Misssissippi Legislature approved these casinos, they had a stipulation on them that no casino could be built on dry land. Hence all the casinos are on barges placed in very dangerous locations all in the name of money.

The Legislature, according to the Governer, passed the law this way to keep gambling away from the majority of Mississippieans by limiting it to the coast. This is a case of government by idealology instead of one based on common sense and science. And also one of hyprocracy when even the idealogoy bends over for the color green.

I have always wondered why Mississippi has mostly missed out on the prosperity of the rest of the south, and has lost so much population that it even lost an electoral vote after the 2000 census. (while other southern states had gains). Moves like this, start to make it clear that Mississippi really needs reset its priorities.

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I think you will find that the legislature will vote to allow casinos on land very quickly. I doubt that the state will allow their economic future to be imperiled by the devastation. The casinos have made it abundantly clear that they won't rebuild on water and the state will simply have to fall in line with this thinking. If they don't, they will stand to lose what benefits they have been receiving from the casinos. I seriously doubt that the fundamentalists upstate will be permitted to jeopardize the economic future of the entire state. I also think the necessary legislation will be passed quickly, as the area needs to be rebuilt. On the other hand, I would like to see it rebuilt with care and planning, not in a haphazard fashion. We shall see....

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I saw this Hard Rock Hotel on the news last night. It seemed from the video clip that the building had only minor damage. However, they only showed a small portion of the structure, but the guitar is still there.

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The Hard Rock hit on some hard times. It looks like they have major damage, and it will be awhile before they will open.

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I agree with monsoon. The sheer stupidity of requiring casinos to build over the Gulf of Mexico is simply beyond me. Somehow it's OK to gamble over water, but not on a land-mass. Who comes up with this stuff? This was a disaster waiting to happen. Thankfully, it didn't break loose from its mooring and float over and crush several houses like two of the other casinos did.

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The legislation was pure politics indeed....a compromise designed to assuage the sensibilities of fundamentalists in other parts of the state. While there may be yelps from that contingent this time, the legislature knows all too well where their money comes from. A compromise will likely be worked out whereupon the casinos will be allowed to rebuild on land, but only existing casinos. You won't be likely to see new casinos on land elsewhere in the state. The existing casinos wouldn't think of allowing it....The anti-gambling contingent will put on a small show, but that's all it will be. I hope the rebuilding of Biloxi will bring something significant.

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I think you will find that the legislature will vote to allow casinos on land very quickly.  I doubt that the state will allow their economic future to be imperiled by the devastation.  The casinos have made it abundantly clear that they won't rebuild on water and the state will simply have to fall in line with this thinking.  If they don't, they will stand to lose what benefits they have been receiving from the casinos.  I seriously doubt that the  fundamentalists upstate will be permitted to jeopardize the economic future of the entire state.  I also think the necessary legislation will be passed quickly, as the area needs to be rebuilt.  On the other hand, I would like to see it rebuilt with care and planning, not in a haphazard fashion.  We shall see....

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I think you're right. The Tunica casino people have already said they'll oppose any "two tier" system--casinos on the coast on land and elsewhere in the state on water. In Tunica, the casinos aren't on the river, they're on lagoons, but they say that factor prevents larger casinos and hotels actually as part of the casino building.

Tunica has more gambling revenues than the coast, so I suspect there will be land-based casinos everywhere casinos presently exist, not just the coast.

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Yes casinos in Alabama would make a diffrence on education and other things area the state....Look at Macon County it has 3 new schools an one in the planning stages. The county gets a check every mounth from Victory Land and the schools get checks them selves. Also Macon County paid for building of a 24hr urgent Care Medical center in Tuskegee from funds that were setup in the 1980s when victoryland was just getting started. Now dont get me wrong the new set up for victoryland was not properly put in place...they donot have to pay taxes on the video poker machines and only have to give out a $15,000 check for each charity organization in the Macon County area. but this is more money than the county use to receive and im glad to see the community using the money to improve the educational resources and the healthcare of the Tuskegee Macon County area

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Yes casinos in Alabama would make a diffrence on education and other things area the state....Look at Macon County it has 3 new schools an one in the planning stages. The county gets a check every mounth from Victory Land and the schools get checks them selves. Also Macon County paid for building of a 24hr urgent Care Medical center in Tuskegee from funds that were setup in the 1980s when victoryland was just getting started. Now dont get me wrong the new set up for victoryland was not properly put in place...they donot have to pay taxes on the video poker machines and only have to give out a $15,000 check for each charity organization in the Macon County area. but this is more money than the county use to receive and im glad to see the community using the money to improve the educational resources and the healthcare of the Tuskegee Macon County area

I am confused as to why everyone thinks that gambling is the answer. Everyone will say look at Mississippi and Louisiana and all the money they get for their schools from gambling... those are about the only two states we are ahead of in education. The numbers do not add up. Not to mention, pumping more money into miserably run schools is not the answer. I'd rather invest my money into something else unless they get some responsible people running education in this state. Don't waste my money...

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The next time we have a referendum for a lottery, those officials from surrounding states that run the lottery/gambling corporations will give money to keep Alabama from getting a lottery, like MS did last time. We're the only reason that TN's lottery has kept afloat. All of the top 10 TN lottery locations are right across the border from Huntsville. It's sad to see that we're funding other states' education systems, but not ours.

Same thing happened with Tennessee pursuing casinos (Tunica, MS is just south of Memphis). Mississippi casino lobbyists allied themselves with Tennessee religious groups to campaign against it.

Again, TN and AL should just legalize it all. It's here. There's no moral victory in preventing it in the state when people can just go over the border to give away the state's money, and then bring the problems home. Just legalize it across the board, and let the cities compete for the best projects and districts.

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I am confused as to why everyone thinks that gambling is the answer. Everyone will say look at Mississippi and Louisiana and all the money they get for their schools from gambling... those are about the only two states we are ahead of in education. The numbers do not add up. Not to mention, pumping more money into miserably run schools is not the answer. I'd rather invest my money into something else unless they get some responsible people running education in this state. Don't waste my money...

Valid point. Just because a school receives more money doesn't mean it will be more efficient or effective in spending it. Problems with education run much, much deeper than funding, and a lot of it has to do with the responsibility of the adults in the system.

I'm for gambling because the pandora's box has been opened. The states that keep it out receive only the burdens of dealing with the negative consequences of gambling. They receive a pittance of the benefits. For my state, if I have to already deal with the negatives, I'd like an equal shot at the positives that, say, Mississippi has gotten.

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"The states that keep it out receive only the burdens of dealing with the negative consequences of gambling."

I agree with Clobber.

I'll also add that I have taken summer vacations to Las Vegas each of the last two summers, and plan to go back this summer. I don't gamble much, but really enjoy all the restaurants and entertainment that the casinos bring in.

Tunica's a good example of this. Yes, gambling put it on the map, but now there's a nice river park and museum, a river boat, golf courses, and all the rest. The highlight for me was Corky's BBQ buffet at Sam's Town. I barely ate anything the rest of the day to save room for that one :D

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The Rebuilding Has Begun

Work was started today on the rebuilding of the ill-fated Hard Rock Casino and Hotel in Biloxi. The hotel and casino are expected to open on the 4th of July, 2007. It is interesting to note that the Roy Anderson Corp., the contractors for the project, are also co-owners.

The Sun Herald

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