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19 hours ago, vdogg said:

Hoping once all is said and done these restaurants decide to stick with the European style outdoor seating. This really works for Granby and really activates the street. Lot's of foot traffic and a surprising amount of people out.

I was always thinking that if they removed one of the parking lanes, they can install permanent seating along the entire length of granby street between brambleton, and main. Somthing like the parklets they have, but much bigger.

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You're correct, everything should be put on the table. I think it would be cool to chop it up into a town center type complex. The street grid would be narrow pedestrian/bike only with lower level sto

Pixels, the Ghent arcade bar, will open on Wednesday. This was the only interior picture I could find. 

Selden Arcade to be transformed into startup retail shops, some food stalls and a 3-D "maker studio" in association with the Slover library.  http://pilotonline.com/business/as-norfolk-makes-over

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Business Insider mag said today that “Malls will likely try to court grocery stores like WalMart and Target to replace department store anchors (“like Nordstrom and JC Penny”) in a post- pandemic world.”

It’ll be interesting to see what transpires post pandemic. 

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Interesting that Starwood Retail Partners has hired JLL to manage the mall now. Same mall manager, Mr. Wofford. Starwood lost their western and southern portfolio of 6-7 malls a while back to Israeli bond holders from what I understand. They had been acquired en bloc by Starwood for about $1.6 billion prior to a subsequent acquisition which included MacArthur Center.  When Covid hit it was reported that rent collections were down to nearly 20% of normal levels in that portfolio. These purchases were part of their infamous mall buying spree, which had many of us scratching our heads at the time. They had no prior mall ownership or management experience, and they never did seem to get the hang of it either. Amateur hour. I’m not saying that this was the only reason why they defaulted. Obviously, market trends had something to do with that as well.

By the way, I’m assuming you guys know that Richmond’s Nordstrom will never reopen. And they have no Nordstrom Racks yet either. That will leave Pentagon City and Tysons as the sole, full-line Nordstroms in the entire state of Virginia. Back to where we were in Feb. 1999 Lol.  ;-(

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On 11/21/2020 at 5:54 PM, baobabs727 said:

Bsck to where we were in Feb. 1999 Lol.  ;-(

I wish Norfolk could go back to 1999 on this sometimes and have the crystal ball on the future and build what we all envision on these forums, an improved city grid with ground floor retail and high rise apartments above.

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31 minutes ago, zeppelin14 said:

I wish Norfolk could go back to 1999 on this sometimes and have the crystal ball on the future and build what we all envision on these forums, an improved city grid with ground floor retail and high rise apartments above.

In my head, I sometimes play the “what if” game, going back to about 1995. In that game, they build the street grid with shopping and restaurants, a new arena that was proposed around that time, and VB residents approve a light rail expansion. Imagine how different this area looks 20-25 years later. A few NCAA tournaments, maybe a pro team, and I imagine bigger businesses come here because we have a robust transit system, that by 2020, goes to the airport, base, Greenbrier, and parts of the Peninsula.

I also imagine SPQ gets off the ground. 

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On 10/21/2019 at 7:04 PM, 23320 said:

The food hall is on the docket tomorrow night for approval of live entertainment. Not sure why that wasn’t taken care of earlier but have to figure it’s just behind schedule like things always seem to be. 

This project is disappointingly but understandably dead. The space is now up for lease.

https://www.pilotonline.com/business/consumer/vp-db-granby-food-hall-not-happening-20210204-wszjttlhivbv3dffaqiznt4rh4-story.html?fbclid=IwAR05_53alNO1KN4XfWipbbFHMZO915o-AlCHZ-CwgJojr0bUBgM_t2lOKaA

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Yeah...as frustrated as I am that the pandemic may have exacerbated things, they kicked the can down the road for two years. They had their chance to execute.

The more I think about it though, the more I think Waterside should've become the food hall of downtown. Wonder if one of the warehouses in Park Place/Railroad District would be interested?

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The Apple Store at MacArthur plans to close in the next 90 days. I really don't like how this article implies it's because of safety issues when stores have been leaving the mall left and right over the last five years. 

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/02/25/apple-macarthur-center-store-closing/?fbclid=IwAR1HubMebNUn1Ly3-M66T1jOyg5PYC2PupPfAIezkUz3RFjCQrIq3tFf6N8

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While certainly not the primary cause or even a major cause of the mall’s decline, such high-profile violent incidents have definitely factored in to the once-vaunted MacArthur Center’s overall viability calculus. Indeed, we can’t simply ignore the fact that there have been actual gun battles—inside of the mall—you know, as in bullets buzzing past mom, dad and baby. Retailers are keenly aware of these nefarious activities, and so too are their customers.

I used to frequent MacArthur Center nearly every day, at all times of the day, and I never felt unsafe. However, the casual customer and infrequent visitor need only hear or read about one incident like this, and they’re done. Additionally, at the risk of reinforcing gender stereotypes, I’m also a male.  Females, often highly security-conscious relative to males, predominate in shopping environments.

The myriad other reasons for the mall’s decline are real and are well-documented here, and so I won’t expound upon the subject matter. 

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Apple store closing news, plus local economist hints at the imminent  demise of Dillard’s @MacArthur Center—the Arkansas-based retailer’s official East Coast flagship store and the nicest and largest department store of any retailer between Tysons and Raleigh.  He also says that once Dillard’s goes, so goes the mall. 

https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/norfolk/apple-store-at-macarthur-center-to-permanently-close/

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