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Even the most fervent of proponents of LR around this area have to admit that the Norfolk Tide starter line does not a proof of concept make.  Indeed, ridership levels are low, the project is hemorrhaging cash, and any assertion of a direct, causal link between LR and development/re-development in DT would be specious, at best. 

Of course no one's talking about all of that. Oh, the details, the details.  They are thorny little buggers, aren't they....

Nay, this thread has more or less devolved into a city planner/public transit-wonk type of a discussion that is likely of little to no concern to the vast majority of our local population.  And although I am quite interested in the subject and was once a vocal proponent of extending LR to the Beach, I have always had serious doubts that the attendant, positive economic benefits that pro-mass transit wonks so breathlessly ascribe to LR will actually come to fruition in HR.

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Norfolk starter line is only half of the original concept. I think it's unfair to assess the Tide as a failure. It was supposed to be a link between the two cities, so much of the ridership and development that we're not seeing today would have potentially come from the Beach's side. Its hard to judge, because it was built and envisioned to end at least at Town Center which it doesn't.  

 

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Norfolk is at least putting the idea out there, and residents here are a lot warmer to the idea than VB. I get the financial reservations, but this area, spread out as it is, needs to depend on something other than just cars/trucks/vans, esp. if they want to lure jobs that are "millennial-friendly". Most tech jobs or something like Amazon are going to require better public transit.

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And then there were two...

https://pilotonline.com/news/local/transportation/proposed-norfolk-light-rail-routes-to-naval-base-would-go/article_ffc8932a-44ad-5af3-a66d-ae31600b883d.html

HRT has narrowed down the 14 potential plans to just two. One goes through Park Place to Hampton Blvd., the other is straight down Church St. IMO, they would be insane to not select the option that goes through ODU.

If approved, it could be up and running by 2027.

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21 hours ago, BFG said:

And then there were two...

https://pilotonline.com/news/local/transportation/proposed-norfolk-light-rail-routes-to-naval-base-would-go/article_ffc8932a-44ad-5af3-a66d-ae31600b883d.html

HRT has narrowed down the 14 potential plans to just two. One goes through Park Place to Hampton Blvd., the other is straight down Church St. IMO, they would be insane to not select the option that goes through ODU.

If approved, it could be up and running by 2027.

Hopefully they don't mess it up, Alternative 7 is the only good option now.

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