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krazeeboi Gigalopolis

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Obviously "metropolitan university" is a technical term. The second link was to a site of member universities of the Coalition of Urban and Metropolitan Universities. Several universities located downtown in their respective cities aren't listed (which would truly make them "urban universities"), including USC.

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RestedTraveler Metropolis

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Thanks. Do you know if UCF ever had and affiliation with the university of Florida? I'm still trying to understand. I guess I'm questioning a USC Upstate being an affiliate of USC, and then also having multiple campuses. Could this be laying the ground-work for separating from the USC system and simply becoming Upstate University.

No. There has never been any direct affiliation with the University of Florida. At one time, the state of Florida's University System had one board of regents oversee the entire state university system, of which both schools are members. However, the system is now set up to where each individual school has its own board of regents.

The University of Central Florida (UCF) was chartered in 1963 and was originally named Florida Technological University (FTU), not to be confused with the Florida Institute of Technology (FIT) in Melbourne. The name was changed to UCF by an act of the Florida State Legislature in 1978 in an attempt to make the university more regional.

I've often thought that, from a pure atheletic merchandising perspective, the name should change to "the University of Florida at Orlando" (UFO) and that the atheltics mascot should be an Alien. :silly: Who wouldn't want to be a fan of UFO Aliens? :lol:

However, the University of Central Florida's presidents (past and present) and board of regents have worked very hard to make UCF one extraordinary regional metropolitain university, and it shows. UCF now has an enrollment of something like 45,000 students majoring in 92 Baccalaureate Programs, 94 Masters Programs, 24 Doctoral Programs, and 3 Specialist Programs. For more details, CLICK HERE.

Additionally, UCF has a large research park, Central Florida Research Park (similar to RTP), next to its campus, has one of the best Computer Science programs in the country, and is currently working on establishing a new Medical School in Orlando as well.

I may be somewhat biased; however, as far as Metropolitain Universities are concerned, UCF is the one to emulate.

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Rested Traveler,

Isn't UCF building a residential campus in downtown Orlando focusing on digital media? I believe the city helped secure the buildings. If I remember correctly it will be located very close to the basketball arena (on the other side of the interstate from most of the downtown).

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RestedTraveler Metropolis

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Isn't UCF building a residential campus in downtown Orlando focusing on digital media? I believe the city helped secure the buildings. If I remember correctly it will be located very close to the basketball arena (on the other side of the interstate from most of the downtown).

Yes - as I understand it, UCF is constructing a building for their School of Film and Digital Media downtown on the West Side of I-4 (along South Street in the Parramore area), well South of the TD Waterhouse Center. Florida A&M is also building a Law College campus over in that area. If you're familiar with Orlando, you'll know what a transformation has taken place in this part of town that was once rather undesirable.

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Slightly off topic - but USC Union was mentioned, which I totally forgot was still around. According to a SC education website, Union, Lancaster, Salkehatchie, & Sumter will become Palmetto College, as part of USC's continuing education program. I don't know if their name will technically change to Palmetto College, but that name is stated.

http://pc.sc.edu/overview.html

What I wonder though - is this new 'Upstate' campus (which I would agree does appear to possibly compete with the Spartanburg campus) a sign that SC is finally getting their crap together & developing real comprehensive regional public colleges? What had always annoyed me were all those small 2 year schools serving a very rural area (except for Sumter) rather than for centralized urban areas. Essentially - I think college education should be provided to EVERYONE despite their academic background.

Rather than the Lancaster campus, USC should have a Rock Hill campus, b/c again - I can provide support for the fact that not everyone is accepted into Winthrop. Also a Charleston campus should be built. It does appear the Beaufort & Aiken campuses of USC have developed into 4 year schools, as well as Coastal Carolina (which is essentially a USC affiliated school) provides education for Florence / Myrtle Beach.

Ok - so the topic really seems to have ventured to just Rock Hill, which would be the only place where a USC affiliated college has not been established in order to provide general 4 year college education. But I'm hoping the Greenville campus is a sign that USC is strengthening their sattelite campus program into a strong regional college program.

That is not fully the case in GA, but it does appear to be the case in NC.

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krazeeboi Gigalopolis

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USC-Rock Hill...hmmm, interesting thought. I know Winthrop wouldn't like the competition, but hey, ya never know.

I'm glad SC State in Orangeburg finally got its act together; for a minute there, I thought it would turn into USC-Orangeburg.

A USC in Charleston would really be something, as Charleston is already enough of a college town--Charleston Southern, College of Charleston, the Citadel, MUSC, etc.

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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The USC system and SC's colleges in general are spread out gepgraphically, which gives more opportunities for people in the rural aras to get an education.

They say that USCS is still going to be the primary campus. It could be that the branch in Greenville will be a place to start, but finishing a 4 year degree would require you to transfer to USCS.

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All I knew about was UNC-Charlotte's campus on Harris Blvd. They have their research facilities there as well. Perhaps they have some course offerings downtown as well?

Yes, UNCC is offering classes in uptown Charlotte and they just purchased land to build a fairly decent sized building with multiple floors of classrooms. From what I read they wanted to move quickly since Johnson & Wales relocated from Charleston and Wake Forest moved their MBA classes from another side of town into their own respective spots. UNCC is also trying to be the first Charlotte area university to open a law school (before Queens College). Still, UNCC isn't claiming two campuses with the new building in uptown. They have always referred to it as just a place more convenient for those working in uptown to take classes.

Funny how in NC you can take a class/classes at a community college for no more than $700-$800 per semester, nothing more. Anyone can take up to a full load and never have to pay more than that amount at any of the CCs statewide. That is definitely not true here in SC even with the lottery's assistance, a benefit NC will finally receive too in a few years. Last year: Clemson's tuition up +51% and USC up +36%! IMO that shows all of the reason not to build a new "campus" anytime soon?

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^ Precisely why I feel it is imperitave that low-cost low-admission qualification colleges are provided, b/c a college education is no longer something to 'get ahead in life', it is an absolulte requirement for stable employment for the future. Because of that, colleges are attracting more sub-standard high school students (like I was) so more colleges that can assist those in major urban areas & regional locations that are easy to get to from all rural locations is important. It should be VERY easy for SC to provide this service.

In GA, in the past 10 years we have seen more 4 year public colleges develop into larger schools, mostly in suburban Atlanta:

Perimeter College

Kennesaw St University

Clayton St University

& now Gwinnett St College

So even in Columbia, it may be ideal to develop another 4 year college.

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RestedTraveler Metropolis

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I saw that piece, too. It looked pretty nice. They're building four garden style apartment buildings with apartments for over 400 students. Why? Because the educational offerings at Greenville Tech are so diverse that they are now attracting students from all over the state to come to Greenville Tech. :thumbsup:

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Does anyone here think that the long-term plan is to make Greenville Tech (or at least a majority of it) a four-year university? Could USC Upstate have been brought to Greenville to eventually absorb a lot of Greenville Tech's programs/classes with the long-term goal of becoming a public four-year university?

Just a thought.

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Does anyone here think that the long-term plan is to make Greenville Tech (or at least a majority of it) a four-year university? Could USC Upstate have been brought to Greenville to eventually absorb a lot of Greenville Tech's programs/classes with the long-term goal of becoming a public four-year university?

Just a thought.

That thought very briefly crossed my mind as well; however, I'm don't believe that's what's happening here.

I believe it's just a partnership that will strengthen both schools.

To back up my belief, I have to look no farther than my very own Graduate School, the University of Central Florida. UCF has partnered with various community colleges in Florida to offer 4-year degrees by allowing students to take classes at the 2-year schools. UCF is not alone in doing this. Other universities within the Florida State University System practice this type of outreach as well. Dr. Andrew Sorensen, being a former Provost in the Florida State University System (at the University of Florida), is probably well aware of this practice and it's benefits.

By doing so, UCF has expanded it's reach throughout Central Florida and has given students at these 2-year schools that might not otherwise go on to a 4-year school the opportunity to obtain a 4-year degree.

It just makes good sense, all the way around. :thumbsup:

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Spartan Gigalopolis

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That thought very briefly crossed my mind as well; however, I'm don't believe that's what's happening here.

I believe it's just a partnership that will strengthen both schools.

To back up my belief, I have to look no farther than my very own Graduate School, the University of Central Florida. UCF has partnered with various community colleges in Florida to offer 4-year degrees by allowing students to take classes at the 2-year schools. UCF is not alone in doing this. Other universities within the Florida State University System practice this type of outreach as well. Dr. Andrew Sorensen, being a former Provost in the Florida State University System (at the University of Florida), is probably well aware of this practice and it's benefits.

By doing so, UCF has expanded it's reach throughout Central Florida and has given students at these 2-year schools that might not otherwise go on to a 4-year school the opportunity to obtain a 4-year degree.

It just makes good sense, all the way around. :thumbsup:

The 'controversy' though, is that USCS is right fown the road.....

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