801 Ionia Renovation

[GRDadof3]

Assuming it does go 15-20 stories, I wonder what neighbors will say about it. However, didn't North Monroe just complete a master plan that accepted mid to high-rise development closer to the Hill? In any case they (neighborhood) set a precedent and it could be a starting point for JackBBV to reference in any future debate about the height allowances. BTW, Dad, how did you get 15-20 floors?

I can imagine going down Division and having the Hill on one side and Jack's project on the other -- sweet. Maybe Jack will poke in around here and let us know what is going on.

[MAU]

Is that right across the street from Teasers?

[tamias6]

Assuming it does go 15-20 stories,...

[DwntwnGeo]

I wonder how Ionia could be reconfigured in that area being so close to Division. Maybe division could be widened into a nice boulevard with on-street parking and Ionia can be torn up?

[MJLO]

How come it seems like BBV cannot propose something without somehow needing some kind of bass ackwards commitment on something from the city?

[Veloise]

Assuming it does go 15-20 stories, I wonder what neighbors will say about it. ...

[Rizzo]

Aren't any residential neighbors. Closest ones are dozens of feet higher on Belknap.

[tamias6]

Belkap residences might grip about a 15-20 story building ruining their view.

Aren't any residential neighbors. Closest ones are dozens of feet higher on Belknap.

[FilmMaker]

How come it seems like BBV cannot propose something without somehow needing some kind of bass ackwards commitment on something from the city?

[GRDadof3]

I didn't mention residential neighbors. I was going on the number Dad discussed earlier. Block the view of the river and people will come out the woodwork, especially when we're talking about 15-20 floors. A guy I know that lives in those apartments on the Hill overlooking Medical Mile beotches about his lost view of Downtown.

[AlexPKeaton]

Belkap residences might grip about a 15-20 story building ruining their view.

[GRDadof3]

I checked and the project is still in "conceptual" stages. Which to me means "plans are drawn up but not ready for public consumption". Jack probably doesn't want to show his hand yet, as I'm guessing there are a couple of apartment projects in the works that are all trying to beat the others.

[window washer]

I checked and the project is still in "conceptual" stages. Which to me means "plans are drawn up but not ready for public consumption". Jack probably doesn't want to show his hand yet, as I'm guessing there are a couple of apartment projects in the works that are all trying to beat the others.

[GRCityPlanner]

I'm leaning towards GRdad's guess at height. Besides, I don't think zoning laws in that area of town would allow for a building that high.

[Veloise]

USGS maps are available on Topozone.com, which is pretty easy to use.

The irregular contours shown on this map are elevation lines.

Those apartments and residences overlooking Division are at 750' elevation. The map shows a contour number near Division (the bold red line) and Sixth, and that is 631.

:kicks off shoes to count:

69 feet plus 50 more feet equals the Belknap hill ground height.

HTH

[joeDowntown]

Ah, an apartment development. Finally! I think it is just what downtown needs!

Joe

[tamias6]

^Given the current condition of the real estate market and market saturation of condos, we'll probably see alot more apartment developments at least for the next few years.

[Prankster]

One of the biggest benefits to building apartments is when the condo market finally catches up to supply, the apartments can be converted into condos, like the Berkey & Gay building.

[GRDadof3]

The Parking Commission looks to be taking up a request to build new city-owned parking at this spot. The parking apparently will help Jack Buchanan (Irish Twins) fill the old Imperial Metals Building, and provide much needed parking in Monroe North.

[Allison Slater]

Doesn't look like it's being used for much else at the moment, so I'll welcome it.

[GRDadof3]

The Parking Commission looks to be taking up a request to build new city-owned parking at this spot. The parking apparently will help Jack Buchanan (Irish Twins) fill the old Imperial Metals Building, and provide much needed parking in Monroe North.

[Allison Slater]

Again, no complaints there. Ionia is essentially useless along Division there. A waste of valuable space otherwise.

[GRDadof3]

Renderings of this project, in the city's E-packet:

Does anyone have any pictures of the building currently? I can't seem to dig any up.

[jbr12]

Its pretty nasty... I used to work right around that area. Here's some Bird's Eye shots and Google Street View

I do like the Initial Design quite a bit. Very nice manipulation of the existing building to get natural light inside. I would be worried about the Glass Box on the south side tho...

[Veloise]

... I would be worried about the Glass Box on the south side tho...