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I wanted to ask a question to see what people think. For quite a while Arkansas has really pushed to land a major plant at a 'supersite' at Marion. Although that's never really come about they have attracted some companies to locate to that area. But I was wondering if people from Ft Smith feel left out. Do people think that perhaps the state should better represent Ft Smith? Should the state try to locate a major plant around Ft Smith? I think most of us know the state has been pushing Marion because it's in a rather economically depressed area of the state. But maybe Ft Smith would be a more attractive location to some companies. I've never heard anyone complain. Are there any forward thinking people that would try to set up a 'supersite' around Ft Smith? Perhaps one of the problems is the city not showing enough leadership. I don't think you can rely on the state to do everything. Especially if the city doesn't make much of an effort to get things started. I admit I'm not very knowledgeable about Ft Smith, but it's the general impression I've gotten. Ft Smith is growing and it's not all gloom and doom. I just think sometimes it gets overlooked because of the success of NWA. But I've still had a hard time seeing the city make much of an effort aside from the US Marshall's Museum. I see some early signs of problems that hit Pine Bluff several decades ago and now look at it. I can't say Ft Smith will end up like Pine Bluff, but I think it would be foolish to simply dismiss it also.
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The people of Ft. Smith would not want such a development here. They have already tried to bring in a Toyota plant, an IBM plant, and countless ameneties and the city and its leaders just said NO. The US Marshall's Museum fits in well with the history and heritage of this town, so that is why it was fought for. There are 2 major reasons such a development would not be welcomed with open arms in Ft. Smith.

#1. While the chamber of commerce is pro-growth, the mayor and city administrators along with a HUGE segment of the population are very anti-growth and don't want to see change of any kind.

#2. It would not be in the best interest of the manufacturing plants already here. Ft. Smith employers pay much lower than employers do in most places, and if new jobs were to come in and offer higher wages, they would be forced to increase their wages to compete.

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One of my pet peeves about Ft. Smith is the way people drive here. On I-540 in NWA, you have a lot of speeders pushing 80-85. In Ft. Smith, most people drive at least 10 mph UNDER the speed limit! The traffic flows at about 50-55 and if you go the speed limit, you pass everybody like they are sitting still. Do these people not know how to push the accelerator?
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You seem to just want to attack me personally but you don't know me or know my circumstances or anything.

EVERYBODY I know who has moved to Ft. Smith from another metro comments about the slow drivers when they first arrive until they get used to it. Slow drivers are probably typical of retirement communities in general, not just Ft. Smith.

About the casino, if the Chamber of Commerce and the council both support it, why have opponents been so successful in getting it blocked?

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You seem to just want to attack me personally but you don't know me or know my circumstances or anything.

EVERYBODY I know who has moved to Ft. Smith from another metro comments about the slow drivers when they first arrive until they get used to it. Slow drivers are probably typical of retirement communities in general, not just Ft. Smith.

About the casino, if the Chamber of Commerce and the council both support it, why have opponents been so successful in getting it blocked?

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LMAO...dude...if you don't like Fort Smith, you have your right to that opinion. However, many of the things you say make no sense and have no basis in reality. Fort Smith is not a retirement community. The median age is 35...that is far from being in the range of a retirement community. Bella Vista and Hot Springs Village are retirement communities. The median age in Hot Springs Village is 67. So, there is a huge difference. Fort Smith is a vibrant, growing city with a median age of 35. Please don't try passing your opinions off as fact.
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I forgot to mention that a few weeks ago Staples finally opened up in Ft. Smith. This has been the biggest thing (besides job loss) to happen here in years. Rumor has it that Circuit City will be coming back as well, locating over by the new Target shopping center if it ever gets off the ground.

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As usual I have to disagree with you...I have been to NWA mall many times and in fact worked at JC Penney there in 1998 while I was in school. The NWA mall has nothing to offer that Central Mall does not. Plus the mall is much narrower and is hard to get around in especially around the food court. Don't know about the outdoor mall in Rogers
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Aldo Shoes

Banana Republic

Charlotte Russe

Express

Eddie Bauer

Gap/GapKids

FYE

Disney Store

Talbot's

Gymboree

Hounstooth

Spencers Gifts

New York and Company

Major top tier stores that are in NWA mall but not in Central. That isn't even mentioning the better food court offerings NWA mall has and just the overall higher class feel to the mall. Central has come a long ways from where it was just a few years ago though.

The Promenade in Rogers is an upscale mall in a league even above NWA mall, and craps on just about everything else in the state.

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ok...literally speaking there are actually some stores in the NWA Mall that are not in Central Mall...just like Central Mall has some stores that NWA Mall does not like Candy Craze, Champs, Coach House gifts, DEB, Hibbett Sports, Lilly pad, Limited Too, Maurices, Revelations, Rue 21 Sixth Scents, Spirit Zone Waldenbooks, the Woodsman...My point is that there is not any reason to travel to NWA Mall just to shop there instead of Centrall Mall unless you want a Mickey Mouse toy. Now the Rogers mall is different and I can see going there for the different experience, but still it's main anchors are Penneys and Dillards. Sure they may have a few stores that Fort Smith does not, but it's not like they have Macy's, Parisian, or Bloomingdales up there.
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