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Not sure if this has been discussed anywhere but had the chance to try the newly opened "Cavo's" (original Graffiti) on Washington.  Have to say their limited menu was fantastic and I'd definitely go

Tried Russell’s last night for happy hour, just a couple apps and drinks. They’ve done a fantastic job with the space, the wall by the lake is all windows and provides an incredible sunset view overlo

The funny part, I suppose, is what ersatz verbal constructions these are. "Thornton Park" did not become a thing until the late '80's (it was basically a name pulled out of the subdivision records by

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what restaurants are still open around DT to wow the LA social elite who will be descending on our little town for the finals? I just saw bothe Sanctuary restaurants are closed.

It really sucks that The Beacon closed at the the Sanctuary, that's really devastating to me since we were getting so much restaurant and bar action in the Thornton Park/SoEo area. Does anyone know if it was lack of business or the reason the restuarant closed. I heard a couple new ones were opening downtown buth I don't remember what or where they are downtown. I hope the cinema cafe survives. If St. Pete can support a downtown movie complex, then Orlando should have a strong chance. I'm sure many restuaurants have closed on the Westside in LA, down Santa Monica Blvd, Melrose , etc. but there are so many it's not as noticable I'm sure. They have a crappy economy in CA also because of the mortgage crises out there also, I believe they have a higher unemployment rate than us, can you believe Orlando is at 10.2%?! Tampa Metro is a little worse at 10.5%. I think the Florida metro with the best economy right now is Jacksonville with Orlando in 2nd place. We'll judt have to suck it up. The Tijauana Flats, and Hue and the restuarants in Thornton Park and the CBD and Orlando is supposedly famous for its homade oriental noodle houses in Colonial Town and College Park, and maybe some of them will venture into Winter Park and Maitland. I'm we have plenty in the downtown vacinity but we'll probably get an attitude on our nightlife from the SoCal crowd anyway. After all, there Metro is like 4 times larger than ours. Is the Clubhouse sportsbr still open in the Solaire area? Anthing else new downtown that I can't think of? :dontknow:

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It really sucks that The Beacon closed at the the Sanctuary, that's really devastating to me since we were getting so much restaurant and bar action in the Thornton Park/SoEo area. Does anyone know if it was lack of business or the reason the restaurant closed. I heard a couple new ones were opening downtown but I don't remember what or where they are downtown. I hope the cinema cafe survives. If St. Pete can support a downtown movie complex, then Orlando should have a strong chance. I'm sure many restaurants have closed on the Westside in LA, down Santa Monica Blvd, Melrose , etc. but there are so many it's not as noticeable I'm sure. They have a crappy economy in CA also because of the mortgage crises out there also, I believe they have a higher unemployment rate than us, can you believe Orlando is at 10.2%?! Tampa Metro is a little worse at 10.5%. I think the Florida metro with the best economy right now is Jacksonville with Orlando in 2nd place. We'll just have to suck it up. The Tijauana Flats, and Hue and the restaurants in Thornton Park and the CBD and Orlando is supposedly famous for its homemade oriental noodle houses in Colonial Town and College Park, and maybe some of them will venture into Winter Park and Maitland. I'm we have plenty in the downtown vicinity but we'll probably get an attitude on our nightlife from the SoCal crowd anyway. After all, there Metro is like 4 times larger than ours. Is the Clubhouse sports bar still open in the Solaire area? Anything else new downtown that I can't think of? :dontknow:

Beacon hasn't closed they are still open, Graze and Sanctuary Dinner closed. Some would say because of the rude service other would say from a huge charity event when time came to pay the check bounced who knows. The two restaurants across the street at 101 are supposed to be open for July 4!

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Beacon hasn't closed they are still open, Graze and Sanctuary Dinner closed. Some would say because of the rude service other would say from a huge charity event when time came to pay the check bounced who knows. The two restaurants across the street at 101 are supposed to be open for July 4!

Good! I thought I heard the Beacon on the news, at least those restaurants are opening at 101. Thanks!

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yahoo! a new tenant in the wpv!

Press 101 Sandwich and Wine Bar is expanding to Winter Park. The Dr. Phillips-based restaurant signed a deal last month to open its second location in a 3,000-square-foot space in Winter Park Village. The new space will include the Starbucks that closed in 2008 as well as Uberbot, which closed earlier this year, said Paul Rutledge, executive vice president of Columbus, Ohio-based landlord Casto Lifestyle Properties...

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FYI: There's a rumor the Orlando Brewery and Brick and Fire are planning on a new joint venture in the old Albertsons building at Orange and Michigan. Details to follow soon, I imagine.

SINCE Old Albertson will probably eventually close their remaining stores, maybe Dave & Busters could open i n whatever locations are left. Albertsons gave a 225

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From Scott Joseph:

"The flog learned this evening that the Beacon, the stylish, South Beachy lounge with surprisingly creative food has closed. It follows its neighboring businesses that anchored the ground floor spaces of the Sanctuary condominiums. Both Graze and Sanctuary Diner closed last month."

Makes you wonder how the new place across the street will fare. I must admit that I live just a couple of blocks away and, after initial visits to each, found I liked Dexter's, Wildside and CityFish better. Somehow or other the "Sanctuary 3" seemed to be trying too hard to be something they weren't, imho. Oh well, hope Pesca does better.

UPDATE: OBJ is reporting that they'll be back with a new "casual" format (read:cheaper), and timed to the opening of their new places across the street. I have to wonder just how many places to eat we really need down here. Perhaps it is going to take the city to coordinate with someone (it's not an accident that it was Simon who lured both H&M stores to the market) to work on retail, the sadly missing part of the downtown pie at this point. Of course, if our new theatre operator is any indication, may God help us.

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It is on Orange and Jefferson or Orange and Robinson. One of the two intersections. At least it was last week.

I heard it was downtown for the day of the Magic pep rally, but gone again after that. I haven't been by there or by Ferncreek, but multiple people are telling me it's gone. In my book, he had the best hot dogs in town... better than HD Heaven.

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went to black olive a couple weeks ago for the first time and it was absolutely amazing! very nicely decorated restaurant, great atmosphere and the food was delicious!

shared a motz and tomato app, 2 table side made caeser salads, a steak dinner and a fish dinner and a shared dessert plus a glass of wine and soda...all under $100 for 2 ... can't say that wasn't a great deal for one of the more swanky places in downtown...a full review on my site coming up in the next week or two... (in the process of moving downtown from the east side woo hoo!)

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went to black olive a couple weeks ago for the first time and it was absolutely amazing! very nicely decorated restaurant, great atmosphere and the food was delicious!

shared a motz and tomato app, 2 table side made caeser salads, a steak dinner and a fish dinner and a shared dessert plus a glass of wine and soda...all under $100 for 2 ... can't say that wasn't a great deal for one of the more swanky places in downtown...a full review on my site coming up in the next week or two... (in the process of moving downtown from the east side woo hoo!)

Interesting that you speak of the black olive Surina. I have spoken to more than one person who has not been so kind to them. Reviews I've read on foodie boards have also been less than complimentary although I personally have not tried them myself. Has the food improved or was yours an exception. I'm hoping the former. Would love them to be successful and to draw other fine dining to downtown.
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Interesting that you speak of the black olive Surina. I have spoken to more than one person who has not been so kind to them. Reviews I've read on foodie boards have also been less than complimentary although I personally have not tried them myself. Has the food improved or was yours an exception. I'm hoping the former. Would love them to be successful and to draw other fine dining to downtown.

Scott Joseph also just did a review on his flog and approved. Apparently, they have gotten past their opening jitters.

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Interesting that you speak of the black olive Surina. I have spoken to more than one person who has not been so kind to them. Reviews I've read on foodie boards have also been less than complimentary although I personally have not tried them myself. Has the food improved or was yours an exception. I'm hoping the former. Would love them to be successful and to draw other fine dining to downtown.

yea i think they were able to adjust themselves from their soft opening reviews...there were 4 of us at the table and our friends enjoyed their meal just as well so i know it wasn't just an exception, still have not had time to post my blog...hopefully will get around to it next week!

i can't say it has "improved" as it was my first time there...but im definitely going to have a welcome to the building dinner there again!

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It has been about 2 weeks since Pesca opened and we throught we'd try it out on Tuesday. The renovations to the old Lee's Lakeside are nice but the space feels a bit underfurnished. Near the entrance is a sushi bar, there is an overflow dining area and a step down to the main dining area. The views from the main dining area are great for watching over Lake Eola, but I don't understand why half of it was blocked off by moving the bar in front of the windows. The artwork is out of place and cheap looking and I think the furniture is recycled from Rustic Steakhouse. For a Tuesday evening, the place was busier than I expected.

Because the floors are now tiled, the space feels cold and noisy. At this level of service, it might help to fit the tables with linen and maybe a softening of the windows with some kind of window treatment. The wait staff appears very unskilled and frumpy looking. The servers all wear black but most uniforms were dirty, unironed or too big. Our waitress lacked personality, hair appeared unkept, and had tatoos showing She was uneducated about any questions we had about the sparce menu and replied, "I don't know". After a series of my shocked stares, she said, "but I will check for you".

This is a fish place and had like 5 selections on the menu and was out of one of them (as well as a few other things). Without offering us a drink, she asked to take our order and she seemed kind of shocked after I placed a drink order that I was not placing my dinner order as well. The follow-up service was only to deliver food.

The menu is very limited, but I did order the Potato Encrusted Flounder, which was presented nicely, but was nothing spectacular taste-wise and at $24 and no sides, really was not worth it's price. Additionally the parmesian basil fries (think cold, reg order of McD's fries on cold plate sprinkled with parsley and parmesian cheese) at $6 also not worth the price. We had an order of tempura shrimp roll. That was nicely presented and good tasting. Also the pan fried gnocci was ordered, unfortunately it tasted of the oil used to fry fish, and was unacceptable.

I don't want to hate these new places and want them to succeed, but I don't understand why if they are supposed to be "experts" in the industry, they cannot see these shortcomings that an outsider can see? I would have thought Manny would have learned from his failure at Rustic. I liked Rustic, but service and food is substanitally worse here. I just don't understand...

One good thing, there is 10% off with Buy Local Orlando card.

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I agree with your observations. Eventhough I havent ate there yet, I felt the bar area just look bad when looking from lake eola, with all the boxes and bottles exposed. The hostess wasnt even friendly when I ask to look at the menu at the front. She gave us the look of "Why are you wasting my time". I dont get it, I really do not get how these restaraunts expect to survive?

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that sounds terrible, i was excited that something finally opened up in that space, but sounds like the waitstaff and mgmt from spice thornton park moved to pesca :( ... never have i had a good experience at spice thornton park...but the wp spice was great and the one time we were able to go to rustic was great as well...but hopefully pesca up's their game cuz that is a great locale, hate to see it empty again!

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that sounds terrible, i was excited that something finally opened up in that space, but sounds like the waitstaff and mgmt from spice thornton park moved to pesca :( ... never have i had a good experience at spice thornton park...but the wp spice was great and the one time we were able to go to rustic was great as well...but hopefully pesca up's their game cuz that is a great locale, hate to see it empty again!

A group of us went to Pesca and gave them a second chance, I must say, this was a much more enjoyable experience, the service staff has some new people and stepped it up a bit. We went for drinks and appetizers and the service was quite attentive. The manager came around last night and asked for our feedback and I shared my last unfavorable experience which hopefully he will address. Last night was busy and the atmosphere is a lot more intimate after dark.

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A group of us went to Pesca and gave them a second chance, I must say, this was a much more enjoyable experience, the service staff has some new people and stepped it up a bit. We went for drinks and appetizers and the service was quite attentive. The manager came around last night and asked for our feedback and I shared my last unfavorable experience which hopefully he will address. Last night was busy and the atmosphere is a lot more intimate after dark.

that is great to hear! i hear there happy hour is pretty good...i still will give them a shot...but glad to hear they are up'ing their game...i wonder if the manager googles his restaurant name for reviews and ran across this lil ol website and fixed his ish! hahaha

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There's one added abode I apperceive that in fact has alarming pizza. However, its not downtown. Its in the winter park/maitland breadth just south on lk howell ln off of howell annex rd. Parallel to the west of 436 in the windixie plaza. Its small, but I acquaint u, the slices are awesome! Brings me back.

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There's one added abode I apperceive that in fact has alarming pizza. However, its not downtown. Its in the winter park/maitland breadth just south on lk howell ln off of howell annex rd. Parallel to the west of 436 in the windixie plaza. Its small, but I acquaint u, the slices are awesome! Brings me back.

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