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Is there any news on Hue space?

 

And is Honey closed already?

 

I am all about home grown restaurants but Downtown Orlando seriously need some chain restaurants to get people down there....

 

Does anyone else think that Ustler may have had a bite on the Hue/Urban ReThink space combined that led to ReThink vacating so quickly? 

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Does anyone else think that Ustler may have had a bite on the Hue/Urban ReThink space combined that led to ReThink vacating so quickly? 

 

That's certainly what occurred to me. Craig certainly has the wherewithal to fix the most glaring error downtown if he wants to here - we can only hope.

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Does anyone else think that Ustler may have had a bite on the Hue/Urban ReThink space combined that led to ReThink vacating so quickly? 

 

I don't know that there was a specific "bite" as much as the understanding of potential. I would expect that once we hear the plan for either or both of the spaces those of us on this forum will be happy (well most...if anyone can every make everyone here happy, something is wrong :) )

 

Also I'm still not 100% clear on the exact timeline of what happened with Urban ReThink but keep in mind that there was a month between the time we were told publicly about ReThink closing and the closing (That's actually not a quick departure in the world of retail). We also don't know how much longer URT had to determine what to do.

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Another One (Probably Two, But Stay Tuned) Bites the Dust

 

http://www.scottjosephorlando.com/index.php/news/2293-lotus-out-mingos-in-honey-gone

 

As predicted, Lotus is gone and Honey will never arrive. It seems even my prediction was too optimistic: I gave them six months but Lotus lasted two and Honey gave up the ghost before ever opening the doors. The face-saving Mingos? Anyone think it will go six months? C'mon, folks, give up these ill-conceived ideas and turn these spaces into something useful. No doubt our ever-resourceful Mr. Chatmon is already on the phone trying to coordinate another 7-Eleven!

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Their craft drinks were pretty awesome, especially during happy hour when its half off. Hopefully Mingos kept some of those drinks.

Unfortunately, I think Kassa (former Urban Flats spot) will face the same destiny with their pretentious food and price.

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Another One (Probably Two, But Stay Tuned) Bites the Dust

 

http://www.scottjosephorlando.com/index.php/news/2293-lotus-out-mingos-in-honey-gone

 

As predicted, Lotus is gone and Honey will never arrive. It seems even my prediction was too optimistic: I gave them six months but Lotus lasted two and Honey gave up the ghost before ever opening the doors. The face-saving Mingos? Anyone think it will go six months? C'mon, folks, give up these ill-conceived ideas and turn these spaces into something useful. No doubt our ever-resourceful Mr. Chatmon is already on the phone trying to coordinate another 7-Eleven!

Forgettable food, horrendous service and tacky environment will kill a restaurant every time.  Lotus didn’t stand a chance.  There is far too much good competition out there to return to something so forgettable.  

 

​Hopefully someone with solid restaurant experience will put something in there.  The location is not the problem though I'm sure it (and the "economy") will be blamed.  

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Their craft drinks were pretty awesome, especially during happy hour when its half off. Hopefully Mingos kept some of those drinks.

Unfortunately, I think Kassa (former Urban Flats spot) will face the same destiny with their pretentious food and price.

I did have a nice dining experience at Kassa, the food was very good as well as the atmosphere and service, but I think the price point may be a hurdle.  If they can make it until the DPAC opens, I think that would be the type of crowd it would be best suited for.

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Had wayyyyy too many people come in the store and tell me never to go there because of food poisoning they got there. If its all the same people behind Mingos then I'll just wait for that to close too.

 

Hey Matt maybe we could put our concept in that space when these guys totally give up on it. Rent on Pine should be much less than Central. (Probably isn't)

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Even though people don't gush over Mucho or Sonoma, that group knows how to succeed in South Eola. Nicely themed interiors, good drinks, 'good enough' food, and affordable prices. I wouldn't mind another one of their restaurant/bars in one those spaces over these ridiculous new concept restaurants. As for the previous tenants, it was definitely not the location that did them in. Anyone could have predicted those overpriced FMI restaurants would not succeed there.

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Stop by Kasa last night to look at their menu. I think the price point was good. Not for typical college "bar goers", which is good. With this and Aloft WXYZ lounge, finally something for grown up in downtown. The modern design make it looks very "New York" or Winter Park, they definitely spend some thoughts and money on the design. Not typical downtown Orlando restaurant with some quick fix for quick turnover. Good job.

 

WXYZ is kind of dead most of time I drive by. People go check it out...

 

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Stop by Kasa last night to look at their menu. I think the price point was good. Not for typical college "bar goers", which is good. With this and Aloft WXYZ lounge, finally something for grown up in downtown. The modern design make it looks very "New York" or Winter Park, they definitely spend some thoughts and money on the design. Not typical downtown Orlando restaurant with some quick fix for quick turnover. Good job.

 

WXYZ is kind of dead most of time I drive by. People go check it out...

 

 

I think I'll check it out tonight for happy hour.  I went to Magnolia Bar (on Magnolia next to Celt) last night before the Solar Bear game to check it out.  It is nicely decorated and they opened up the front with folding doors to the sidewalk.  The owner seems pretty nice, but is having a slow start since they haven't done any advertising and don't have their sign up yet.

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Stop by Kasa last night to look at their menu. I think the price point was good. Not for typical college "bar goers", which is good. With this and Aloft WXYZ lounge, finally something for grown up in downtown. The modern design make it looks very "New York" or Winter Park, they definitely spend some thoughts and money on the design. Not typical downtown Orlando restaurant with some quick fix for quick turnover. Good job.

 

WXYZ is kind of dead most of time I drive by. People go check it out...

 

Ha! I stopped by Kasa last night as well to get some apps and drinks at the bar. Food was really good, I only drank beer which is always good to me but my wife got a couple drinks and loved them both. They also were sampling some Sangria.

 

Really love what they were able to do with the place! Probably going to go back for a full dinner soon.

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Kasa Tapas & Raw Bar

 

http://www.scottjosephorlando.com/index.php/reviews/recent-reviews/45-asian/2315-kasa-tapas-raw-bar

 

"Downtown Orlando is primed for a restaurant renaissance. There are plenty of places to eat, but it needs more places to dine, restaurants where the meal is the experience, part of the evening’s entertainment, and not just a place to grab a bite before heading out for a night of drinking."

 

So true, but Scott doesn't think Kasa is it.

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Let's make sure and get the gazillionth high-concept eatery that no one goes to, shall we? Heaven knows we don't need any actual places to shop downtown.

 

 

While I agree with you that we need more places to shop downtown, I'd hardly call Urban Flats a high-concept restaurant.  Flatbreads are a pretty niche dining market, especially when the cuisine category is in the restaurant name.  It kind of limits your audience.  With that said, I know they did well at the old Orange Ave location but it always seemed mainly due to their events & promotions in the evenings during the work week.

 

If we had any actual, quality high-concept dining locations downtown, people would come.  The Rusty Spoon (and, arguably, the Boheme) are pretty much the only options and they've managed to not only survive, but thrive. 

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Happy to report that we went downtown on Sat night for the Brad Paisely concert at Amway. 730 concert and around 6 we couldn't get a seat anywhere on Church. We tried Ceviche, Harry Buffalo, Urban Flats, heard them calling names on a waiting list at Hamburger Mary's and tried Church St Tavern to find out they were only serving drinks (?!).

This was after initially trying Bento which also had a wait.

Meltz was empty as was the horsepower themed bar next door that replaced Pipers. Neither seemed to fit in.

So we ended up eating at Magic Grill inside which was low quality and over priced but I was pretty happy to see everywhere hopping so early. The concert undoubtedly was the main cause but it wasn't even a sold out show. (Upper bowl mostly empty).

Just think once we have convention space, soccer stadium and DPAC.

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Those who've been around for awhile may recall my um, 'run in' involving the Urban Flats move.  That whole incident left a bad taste in my mouth.  Hopefully who ever moves in there is a bit more community focused. 

 

I have to wonder what the new Magic entertainment complex will do to this side of Church St. 

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