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If Macarthur opened up its City Hall and St. Paul entrances more, I think that would make a dramatic change. Right now there's only a small entrance or two and the parking garage on those sides. 

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23 hours ago, Urbanlooker said:

Gateway tower having a big name tenant is amazing but I think a lot of ya'll are over looking what could possibly be an even bigger news story here. The plans for MacArthur mall were there any details given? Is it a for sure thing or is this what the councilwoman wants to happen? 

This came from the city mgr's office guy. He seemed strong on the fact the mall would be transformed big time "within 10 yrs." in cooperation and participation with city since it still owns land beneath the entire mall according to him...plus Nordstrom land and building. Said city must not let mall go dark because would be a disaster. City Councilwoman McClellan simply said she was "very concerned" about the state of affairs at the mall.

18 hours ago, BFG said:

Could these two things spark the building boom Norfolk so desperately needs? I could only dream of a day where we have a good dozen or so 30-story buildings going up between downtown proper, St. Paul, and near Harbor Park. Not even counting Gateway Tower.

We could only hope so, yes! 

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I couldn't find this specific project, but there's apartments planned at the foot of the Campostella Bridge, across from the Hardee's. One of my FB friends who's a property manager posted pictures of the vacant lot, and said this is set to open around 2020.

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Not sure where this was discussed previously but the site plan on the development adjacent to Ikea has been updated to increase the buffer area requested by city council. It will have to go back through the approval process as it was rejected. E9B22689-9726-4ECE-B07F-1932E4C0AD04.thumb.jpeg.b60386b33871e6348bbd2ae37b25350d.jpeg

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On 1/26/2019 at 12:28 PM, BFG said:

I couldn't find this specific project, but there's apartments planned at the foot of the Campostella Bridge, across from the Hardee's. One of my FB friends who's a property manager posted pictures of the vacant lot, and said this is set to open around 2020.

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I’m always happy to hear more developments but does everything have to look the same? It’s just so suburban. That’s some nice waterfront property they could at least give us 10 floors lol

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It's because these cities let them.

 

This crap looks like everything else in VB and Ches....on a prime piece of waterfront. Same with the stuff they are allowing up in Oceanview. I'm not saying everything has to be super urban and brick but push these developers to be more creative with their designs. Don't be afraid to say "No"...make them think outside of the standard suburban condo complex. 

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The city will be posting an RFP for the Stuart School on 38th and Llewellyn soon. They have mentioned possibly arranging a charrette with residents of Colonial Place prior to doing so. Whether they do or don't hold a meeting for public input, I hope something happens. That building moves further into disrepair and becomes a bigger eyesore each day it sits vacant.

 

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This property recently closed after the city agreed to vacate some easements in January. It’s already approved and sounds like construction will start soon. 47FBD302-421B-4738-8304-E55186876B74.jpeg.25696010ea82259247e62043c17ef3c5.jpeg

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Two things to add. A new Pilot article about the future of the MacArthur Mall where the mayor mentioned some possibilities to include a Target or Macy's as well as moving the food court to the 1st floor and getting rid of all of the brick that faces Monticello. The Starwood proposal is also mentioned:

https://pilotonline.com/business/consumer/article_135f1a0e-6056-11e9-b4f2-b7240962b419.html

 

And this seemed to slip by all of us. The former Freemason Inn is being redone. The adjacent building is already a new restaurant/bar called Four Eleven York and the bed and breakfast next door should reopen this spring:

https://pilotonline.com/distinction/food/article_b6ac320a-5e30-11e9-9401-0301e18092a1.html

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Co-working, office space continues to pop up in downtown Norfolk. Here's why. - Virginian Pilot

This article discusses the influx of coworking spaces to Downtown. It mentions concerns about oversaturation but these spaces have been expanding all over the country.

Vacancy is at 8.5% Downtown and will spike to around 15% once NS leaves assuming nothing else happens. 

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An application to city planning has been submitted to get a zoning change at 1231 Boissevain Ave in Chelsea from residential to commercial.  The applicant wants to operate a wine bar and hotel on the lot. 

The application is at the following link;

https://www.norfolk.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/5033?fileID=9859

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5 hours ago, BFG said:

Is this a continuation of the concept they proposed a few years ago? That one had a grocery store attached as well, but the plans fell through. I think it would be a great location for a Lidl or Aldi.

Bold Mariner Brewery moved from that area a couple weeks ago, so I imagine that allows for additional development space.

With Aldi moving into the old farm fresh location on 21st, it would have to be Lidl. But it's hard to imagine that area needing another grocery store with Fresh Market, Harris Teeter, Aldi and Food Lion all in the area. If MacArthur doesn't get a Target, this would be a great spot for one.

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This is really exciting, and has a lot of potential. Hopefully it passes.

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WOW! This looks epic!  Reminds me a bit of Waterside.  I REALLY like the "train sign" idea, very unique.  I know my family and I would frequent a place like this if it come to fruition.

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Nice. This has the potential to turn the railroad district from an idea into a legitimate atraction. As long as they land a good brewery. It would be nice if they designate the entire development as a place that permits open contaners. Norfolk would then posess a legitimate beer garden.

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Norfolk as made a new plan for Wards Corner. It's way less robust than the previous one but along the same lines just in a smaller area. This would be to start, as I would assume that the goal would be to get all of wards corner to eventually be more walkable and dense. 

https://pilotonline.com/news/government/local/article_6d21d3d2-aa49-11e9-9bf9-2b4eb8645a22.html

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Seems realistic enough to actually get done, assuming the city can acquire enough property. However the area develops, the intersection of Little Creek and Granby is still daunting to pedestrians. 

I also think this same strategy can be done to Riverview Village. Omohundro runs  between Llewellyn and Granby from Delaware to Connecticut. If the city acquired that land, which is mostly parking lot, and markets to interested parties, you could also have a mini mixed use corridor buffered from the traffic of Granby, which seems to be the main problem with Riverview, and closer to the water. You could even experiment with micro housing back there since most of the lots would be smaller.  Finally, include pedestrian friendly green infrastructure in the redesign that mitigates flooding. 

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