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5 hours ago, varider said:

from IG @wpa_norfolk— appears to be a concept for the greyhound redevelopment

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WHOA! I love Art Deco so this is sweet. Can’t wait to be disappointed when the review board demands they turn it into a big concrete box. :silly:

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5 hours ago, varider said:

from IG @wpa_norfolk— appears to be a concept for the greyhound redevelopmen

Is this the rare instance of something good falling through and something even better coming along? This is substantially more impressive than what TCC was going to build, and on par in design and massing with 78 at St. Paul's. I absolutely refuse to get excited for this. Been burned too many times before, lol.

"Hounds tooth" is a brewing company located in Norfolk, England. Interesting...

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17 minutes ago, Norf Native said:

Next weeks state of the city address (April 7th) should be very interesting.

What are some of the projects expected to be discussed?

Light Rail extension to Military Circle/Military Circle redevelopment?

Saint Paul's Quadrant projects/progress?

An update on the casino?

Updating Chrysler Hall finally?

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I will say I'm a bit disappointed that it looks like it's just a suburban apartment complex with a better paint job. Basically seems like it'll function like the development on Charlotte/Boush St. Unless there's anything public facing on the first few floors putting that on the corner of Granby/Brambleton right next to downtown seems to be a waste of a great location.

EDIT: Suburban might not be the best term for it seeing how it has no stand-alone parking lot, but I just don't like it's for entirely residential purposes. Good to get more people in the area but I don't want Granby street to become riddled with places you can't actually do anything else with. If this goes through this would be the 4th apartment complex approved for the NEON district that has zero first floor businesses. I don't see that as sustainable.

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On 4/1/2022 at 4:06 PM, Norf Native said:

Next weeks state of the city address (April 7th) should be very interesting.

I hope good projects come out that day! It would be a great birthday present to hear something good for the city!

I like the design and how they incorporate the original little "NEON" sign under the above floors. 

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However to hit on a different development subject, I want to ask when the heck will someone take the perfect undeveloped land infront of the courthouse and turn it into something. Walking on Granby and then seeing a field of fresh grass kinda ruins the city vibe/feel that I get from other parts of granby.  It would be better use just to let a farmer cultivate the land and harvest wheat than just let it sit there with absolutely no use. 

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8 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:

However to hit on a different development subject, I want to ask when the heck will someone take the perfect undeveloped land infront of the courthouse and turn it into something. Walking on Granby and then seeing a field of fresh grass kinda ruins the city vibe/feel that I get from other parts of granby.  It would be better use just to let a farmer cultivate the land and harvest wheat than just let it sit there with absolutely no use. 

Impossible. The feds own that land and they will sit on it in perpetuity, due to this mythical courthouse expansion that they never intend to build.

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4 hours ago, vdogg said:

Impossible. The feds own that land and they will sit on it in perpetuity, due to this mythical courthouse expansion that they never intend to build.

If they wanted to extend the courthouse  they could always build UP! Their original building has a hole in the middle of it and even looks like a good base for some type of tower. But just think of what could be built on such a prime piece of land almost in the middle of our Downtown. 

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46 minutes ago, mintscraft56 said:

If they wanted to extend the courthouse  they could always build UP! Their original building has a hole in the middle of it and even looks like a good base for some type of tower. But just think of what could be built on such a prime piece of land almost in the middle of our Downtown. 

Oh believe you me, we all agree. Look up the Granby Towers project to see what could have been.

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4 hours ago, Arctic_Tern said:

Oh believe you me, we all agree. Look up the Granby Towers project to see what could have been.

I dont need to look that one up. Of course as someone who was born and lived in Norfolk, I already know the major disappointment the project ended up bringing. It could have ended up bringing us alot more business and respect for the city we are. However I hope the feds give up the land that is currently to no use.

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14 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:

If they wanted to extend the courthouse  they could always build UP! Their original building has a hole in the middle of it and even looks like a good base for some type of tower. But just think of what could be built on such a prime piece of land almost in the middle of our Downtown. 

That was once suggested during the whole Granby Tower fiasco, but the feds declined that option. 

 

In a perfect world, what should happen is the Feds should do a land swap with Norfolk where Norfolk gets the current federal courthouse building site and the Granby Tower site in exchange for the Norfolk Schools Administrations building site. Both sites sit outside of the 100 year flood map and would give the Feds a great site to build any kind of federal courthouse they want on it and have it be as secure of a site that they want. The city could then have a new Schools Admin building built over by the City Hall on the site that not that long ago had a tower proposal.  Doing this would really consolidate the whole Civic Center.  After that, the city could petition for developers to develop the Granby Tower site with a new tower, and have a petition for the renovation and possibly new tower added to the former courthouse building. This would help connect downtown to the Neon District, and give the city 3 new towers (and possibly 4 new towers depending on the design of the federal courthouse.)

Or with the Granby Tower site, it could be cut in half, having York run through it at a pedestrian corridor and have two towers built on those two sites. If that happened, then there would be three residential towers at Granby and Brambleton.

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5 hours ago, Buildthetowers said:

Get the military and the Fascist Feds out of Norfolk, they hold it back!

Are you delusional?
1, our government is definitely not fascist. 
2, The Military is one of the biggest providers and contributors to the area.
3, We have the biggest navel base in the world. They are not going anywhere anytime soon or later.
4, Get to work on doing your research for understanding Norfolk and our metro as a whole. You obviously dont understand the benefits we get from the military even if there are a few set backs or obstacles on our way to a city success story. 

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On 4/5/2022 at 8:42 PM, mintscraft56 said:

Are you delusional?
1, our government is definitely not fascist. 
2, The Military is one of the biggest providers and contributors to the area.
3, We have the biggest navel base in the world. They are not going anywhere anytime soon or later.
4, Get to work on doing your research for understanding Norfolk and our metro as a whole. You obviously dont understand the benefits we get from the military even if there are a few set backs or obstacles on our way to a city success story. 

Ugh this guy isn't even worth your time. The trolls that have infiltrated urbanplanet have way too much time on their hands. Look at this guy's comment history, he has no idea what he's talking about

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2 hours ago, BeagleAccountant said:

Yeesh. Norfolk  might not ever recover if it lost the military.  The job losses for Hampton Roads would be devastating.

They could if they built an economy that is not solely dependant on the military....if we diversify our economy here it is  very feasible. I know we are not like other metros but others have weathered through losing the military and ended up coming out better

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6 hours ago, VBIllini13 said:

Ugh this guy isn't even worth your time. The trolls that have infiltrated urbanplanet have way too much time on their hands. Look at this guy's comment history, he has no idea what he's talking about

He seems like he is a anti Government person. Anarchist I think thats what they call em.  

3 hours ago, BeagleAccountant said:

Yeesh. Norfolk  might not ever recover if it lost the military.  The job losses for Hampton Roads would be devastating.

Then again his suggestion is totally never going to happen. With the biggest navel base in the world we are pretty set to stay a military town.

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On 4/1/2022 at 3:37 PM, vdogg said:

Look what I found!

https://vimeo.com/676436969

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Went back to review the video today and for some reason it's been made private. Hmm...:huh:

It also appears that we're late on the announcement of the developer, which was supposed to occur the week of the SOC...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/local/mycity/norfolk/norfolk-greyhound-bus-station-redevelopment/291-27567a96-9ae6-4b3f-8d7f-efb8f7a34e9b

"Over the last few weeks, city leaders reviewed several proposals to redevelop the bus station. The city originally planned to announce a development team on March 18, but that has now been pushed back to April 8.

 

"We're not looking to massively change the characteristics of any area," said City Manager Chip Filer. "That particular corner is vital to getting folks that are downtown, across the street, and up into all the interesting and exciting things that NEON has to offer."

 

Once they select a developer, the city will begin contract negotiations. It could take about a month for city leaders to finalize a deal."

 

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