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1 hour ago, Spartan said:

Given that we can't change anything, I would generally agree with the notion that what they have built, and what is being built on that site today, are probably about as good as we could hope for. That said, we have to acknowledge that it will probably take a while before the area between the station and N Tryon St to develop into anything meaningful, but I hope I'm wrong about this.

Honestly the good news is its only a 1 floor building that was built there. Its not out of the question that it gets demolished 10 years from now when its no longer the highest and best use. Retail is still unproven in this neighborhood and nobody is going to spend millions of extra dollars not knowing whether the neighborhood can yet support it.

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Do yourself and all of us a favor then, MOVE. This reeks of racism and exclusion. You clearly have no actual love of this neighborhood. As far as the neighborhood theatre goes, everyone on the block h

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Warning: Big post Today I was able to get some shots of NoDa from an angle most people don't ever see. I thought I'd share.  The heart.  Going north.  If not for the tr

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He cares enough about his neighborhood to criticize issues he sees.  I appreciate your immense contributions here CLT Development, but your response was a little over-the-top.

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Retail is still unproven in this neighborhood and nobody is going to spend millions of extra dollars not knowing whether the neighborhood can yet support it.

It certainly isn't helpful that two of the best locations in NoDa (Revolution and Solstice) are sitting empty and other businesses have struggled in recent years.  There also isn't anymore big residential developments going on in the core of NoDa to bring people there.

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It certainly isn't helpful that two of the best locations in NoDa (Revolution and Solstice) are sitting empty and other businesses have struggled in recent years.  There also isn't anymore big residential developments going on in the core of NoDa to bring people there.

Well, both of those have tenants signed. 

In regards to NoDa development, NoDa News had a nice-ish graphic this month.

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2 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Well, both of those have tenants signed. 

In regards to NoDa development, NoDa News had a nice-ish graphic this month.

 

Must have missed the Solstice news.  I think the two spaces in Fat City are spoken for too.

That graphic does illustrate what I was talking about. Most of the development is around Craighead/Sugar Creek with only smaller infill townhome projects near 36th and Davidson.  Number 49 on there was pretty well NIMBY'd.  You combine that with how frequently businesses are empty along North Davidson and I get why retail developers are hesitant. 

I really wish the rest of Johnson Mill would be redeveloped.  

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Must have missed the Solstice news.  I think the two spaces in Fat City are spoken for too.

That graphic does illustrate what I was talking about. Most of the development is around Craighead/Sugar Creek with only smaller infill townhome projects near 36th and Davidson.  Number 49 on there was pretty well NIMBY'd.  You combine that with how frequently businesses are empty along North Davidson and I get why retail developers are hesitant. 

I really wish the rest of Johnson Mill would be redeveloped.  

Solstice News isn't public yet but I've alluded to it a few times. Something like 204 North is going there.

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40 minutes ago, Spartan said:

I'd be surprised if NoDa has any significant retail (other than restaurants) without a substantial population boost. If the area between the tracks and Tryon starts turning over into lots of apartments/condos, then I think it could change.

Bingo. 
 

Honestly I wish that Crescent's urban town center development across the tracks had come to fruition. It was townhouses, condos, apartments and a row of retail along Craighead. I know they don't have the best track record, but that sounds better than a lot of what Flywheel seems to be planning. NoDa doesn't have the demographics or the population for a large chunk of retail, but like you said, that could change if the space between North Davidson and North Tryon go through a big time change.

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Anyone know about this?  Replaces the previous 6 story multi family plan for this site at 35th behind Fat City.
https://www.odell.com/portfolio/the-mic/?portfolioCats=84


I do know, a close contact hinted to me about this &@jayvee called me crazy.

possibly affiliated with someone else doing 100k office in a inner city neighborhood, but we shall see.
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Made my semi-regular walk from 25th street to Brooks to 36th street. While Brooks never fails to be amazing there was some other stuff in the hood that was less cool:

walkability continues to -suck- here. Brevard has sidewalks for about 5% of the trip.

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The Highland Mill townhomes are brick but perhaps the ugliest things I have ever seen

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Finally a development sign at Chadbourn mill. New sign, but not news here.

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Finally, Yards could be a much better neighbor and make it possible to walk through and get to Creacent (and the station) but everything is fenced up tight. I am kind surprised residents haven’t complained about that.

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Flywheel's master planned development Greenway is well along in development according to this article and he wants to help with funding the greenway trail there.  From the subscriber article:

""the developer is working on a plan B to help fund the portion of the trail that would run through his district — about two miles, from Matheson Avenue to Tryon Street, one of the most expensive stretches on a cost-per-mile basis. City bonds passed in 2014, 2016 and 2018 provide $38 million for the Cross Charlotte Trail, which would only be able to pay for certain segments (largely the southern end) rather than the entire trail, as a 2012 master plan called for.  "The idea has always been that the greenway is a key element to everything we are doing here," said Kuhn, president and founder at Flywheel Group. "It is itself a transit vehicle."  Hundreds of apartments are already under construction or are about to break ground in the area that Flywheel has master planned. Nashville, Tennessee-based Stonehenge Real Estate Group is building 299 units (studios and one-, two- and three-bedroom apartments) in four-story buildings at 3750 Philemon Ave., a project called Amaze at NoDa, in partnership with Neyland Apartment Associates. Brand Properties, based in Atlanta, in December acquired more than 14 acres along Matheson Avenue, an area Kuhn calls the Exchange, to develop a multifamily project. Chicago-based Origin Investments last month closed on its $15.6 million acquisition of two parcels at Craighead Road and Philemon Avenue, where it's readying to develop a first phase of apartments, in partnership with Flywheel Group. Kuhn said that first phase will include about 300 units, with two more phases planned long-term.""

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2019/03/11/for-greenway-district-funding-shortfall-has.html?iana=hpmvp_clt_news_headline

  More from the article   ""He's currently talking with the city about a potential public-private partnership to help pay for the section of the trail that would run past the projects in planning or under construction in the district. City staff have said public-private partnerships could be a way to help address the shortfall, particularly on the north side of town, where more redevelopment is expected to occur.  But to successfully underwrite the two-mile stretch, multiple developers would have to participate in the partnership because of the cost, Kuhn said.  "I think it would take everything we’re working on plus three or four other groups," he continued. "We’d need every developer (building in the vicinity) to align together to work on this."""

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Anyone remember The Goodyear House that was to open in NoDa at least 4 years ago? Per their Facebook page they plan to open in summer of 2019. Is this ever actually going to happen?

They’ve done some heavy construction lately. I think it’ll happen.


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