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^^ in addition to that ppass (excellent post by the way) the discounting power (if you are ordering 5,000 units from Ford or Honeywell they have to give a discount they would never think to give a "small" city that is only buying 200-500), the consolidation of duplicate services (much of these property tax complaints are not just the county but having to pay the muni taxes first for basically the same services the county provides, basically paying for 2 units when you only want one), plus the benchmarking of the region in the stat sheets on Wall Street, Madison Avenue, Capitol Hill and Hollywood Blvd. to other like metros, it is so sad that when you pull up matrixes that compare the "top 50" most fit, least crime, most economic activity etc. etc. Pittsburgh isn't on those lists, yet Plano Texas and Tucson Arizona, Riverside California are. To Congressional staffers, Wall Street pros and Madison Avenue image makers crunching reams of data, if your not on the stat sheet they don't have the "New York Minute" to go exploring about you, you are either in or out, and Pittsburgh with it's paltry and state enforced 55 sq. miles (what 1/10th of Phoenix, of Houston, of Jacksonville!) isn't on the stat sheets when congressional hearings for appropriations come up, when the king makers on MadAve or the Street need the data 5 minutes ago.

Locals discount how negatively having a metro that boasts an ungodly tiny heart (crushed by state imposed deterrents on annexation and the colonial era township model) of Pittsburgh literally destroys our chances of capturing the ever more liquid global dollars for advertising, expansions, R&D, and taxpayer investment. Again if you are not on the "top 50" radar scope the $$ controllers don't have time to find out why, they are too busy crowning the new metro kings of the world.

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^^ in addition to that ppass (excellent post by the way) the discounting power (if you are ordering 5,000 units from Ford or Honeywell they have to give a discount they would never think to give a "small" city that is only buying 200-500), the consolidation of duplicate services (much of these property tax complaints are not just the county but having to pay the muni taxes first for basically the same services the county provides, basically paying for 2 units when you only want one), plus the benchmarking of the region in the stat sheets on Wall Street, Madison Avenue, Capitol Hill and Hollywood Blvd. to other like metros, it is so sad that when you pull up matrixes that compare the "top 50" most fit, least crime, most economic activity etc. etc. Pittsburgh isn't on those lists, yet Plano Texas and Tucson Arizona, Riverside California are. To Congressional staffers, Wall Street pros and Madison Avenue image makers crunching reams of data, if your not on the stat sheet they don't have the "New York Minute" to go exploring about you, you are either in or out, and Pittsburgh with it's paltry and state enforced 55 sq. miles (what 1/10th of Phoenix, of Houston, of Jacksonville!) isn't on the stat sheets when congressional hearings for appropriations come up, when the king makers on MadAve or the Street need the data 5 minutes ago.

Locals discount how negatively having a metro that boasts an ungodly tiny heart (crushed by state imposed deterrents on annexation and the colonial era township model) of Pittsburgh literally destroys our chances of capturing the ever more liquid global dollars for advertising, expansions, R&D, and taxpayer investment. Again if you are not on the "top 50" radar scope the $$ controllers don't have time to find out why, they are too busy crowning the new metro kings of the world.

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Well we all know Pitt is a top 50 city, and possibly almost a top 25 city in reality. I think even non urbanities know Pitt, especially after the Super Bowl! But its just nice to have those paper city stats. But like you said, the real benefit is consolidation of service and the key becomes the increased tax base. You become eligible for more tax money etc.

As I said, Louisville is in many ways a smaller scale Pitt. Both are old river industrial towns that saw huge post-war declines. Louisville is coming back and I know Pitt is too. Maybe its a coincidence, but when you look at merged cities like Indy, Nashville, and Jacksonville, they are all doing really well. Hopefully that bodes well for Louisville--and hopefully Pitt can join the meger bandwagon, lol.

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I reread my post from earlier, I guess everybody got what I was saying but just in case, Pittsburgh could very well be a top 50 in lots of things but what these surveys and stats do is take the top 50 in population then rank them so Pittsburgh is just never on the radar scope to begin with!

Gerbil, every generation has a legacy, in the 50's and 60's it was the Ren and the Golden Triangle in the 70s it was the city of champions, the 80s and 90s the expansion of tech, medical and financial, that's the cool thing about life everybody gets to make their own legacy--it might take 20 years but its what people like us generations from now will look up to for inspiration. We can very well be the generation that gets this city the metro government it has so long deserved (and actually won in 1928!) ;)

if life didn't have any "impossible" problems what fun would it be making a name for ourselves!

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