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Most dangerous, safest cities

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Recently the Morgan Quinto Press released the most dangerous and safest cities.

Most dangerous

1. Camden, New Jersey

2. Detroit, Michigan

3. St. Louis, Missouri

4. Flint, Michigan

5. Richmond, Virginia

6. Baltimore, Maryland

7. Atlanta, Georgia

8. New Orleans, Louisiana

9. Gary, Indiana

10. Birmingham, Alabama

Safest

1. Newton, Massachusetts

2. Clarkstown, New York

3. Amherst, New York

4. Mission Viejo, California

5. Brick Township, New Jersey

6. Troy, Michigan

7. Thousand Oaks, California

8. Round Rock, Texas

9. Lake Forest, California

10. Cary, North Carolina

I was wondering what you guys thought about these rankings. When it comes to most dangerous I was suprised to see Richmond and Birmingham in there and I would of thought Atlanta would be higher.

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Poor Camden :shok: Seems like her efforts at revitilization(sp?) are'nt going very well. but then again, it was an uphill battle (more like vertical) from the start. :unsure:

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YAY! Atlanta has dropped a few ranks!

Still feel sorry for Camden, NJ. Maybe its efforts at revitaliztion will be a little more successful in reducing crime by this time next year (It was a tough battle to fight to begin with, though).

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I wonder how far New Orleans will slip now that the population has been disrupted.

We'll probably have a good indication of this in around 5 years. I think that by that time, there will be a good indication of what the population will be like in the future. The NOPD is going to be changed, and there may be a complete shift in population traits, with most of the crime-ridden residents leaving the city, possibly permanently, and many higher class people interested in living in New Orleans.

FYI..If I am not mistaken, there have been 3 murders in New Orleans since early October.

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These are the rankings for cities over 500,000 in population:

Most Dangerous 10

1. Detroit, MI

2. Baltimore, MD

3. Washington, DC

4. Memphis, TN

5. Dallas, TX

6. Philadelphia, PA

7. Columbus, OH

8. Nashville, TN

9. Houston, TX

10. Charlotte, NC

Safest 10

1. San Jose, CA

2. El Paso, TX

3. Honolulu, HI

4. New York, NY

5. Austin, TX

6. San Diego, CA

7. Louisville, KY

8. San Antonio, TX

9. Fort Worth, TX

10. Jacksonville, FL

http://www.morganquitno.com/xcit06pop.htm#25

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These are the rankings for cities over 500,000 in population:

Most Dangerous 10

1. Detroit, MI

2. Baltimore, MD

3. Washington, DC

4. Memphis, TN

5. Dallas, TX

6. Philadelphia, PA

7. Columbus, OH

8. Nashville, TN

9. Houston, TX

10. Charlotte, NC

Safest 10

1. San Jose, CA

2. El Paso, TX

3. Honolulu, HI

4. New York, NY

5. Austin, TX

6. San Diego, CA

7. Louisville, KY

8. San Antonio, TX

9. Fort Worth, TX

10. Jacksonville, FL

http://www.morganquitno.com/xcit06pop.htm#25

^^yay!! Charlotte made the list! :D haha

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I have no idea how Morgan Quinto determines their rankings, but this is actually how the cities rank for violent crime:

1. Camden, NJ - 2,261.7

2. St. Louis, MO - 2,057.9

3. Flint, MI - 1,925.7

4. Atlanta, GA - 1,842.0

5. Baltimore, MD - 1,839.4

6. Miami Gardens, FL - 1,828.0

7. Springfield, MA - 1,824.0

8. Orlando, FL - 1,748.1

9. Detroit, MI - 1,740.4

10. Miami, FL - 1,677.4

11. Little Rock, AR - 1,639.9

12. Compton, CA - 1,613.4

13. St. Petersburg, FL - 1,600.5

14. Tampa, FL - 1,594.7

15. Trenton, NJ - 1,579.5

16. North Charleston, SC - 1,557.3

17. Memphis, TN - 1,552.9

18. Nashville, TN - 1,550.3

19. Canton, OH - 1,493.4

20. Kansas City, MO - 1,443.8

But then what kind of world would we be living in if cities like Atlanta and Orlando were actually more Dangerous than Detroit?! :rolleyes:

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1. Camden, NJ - 2,261.7

2. St. Louis, MO - 2,057.9

3. Flint, MI - 1,925.7

4. Atlanta, GA - 1,842.0

5. Baltimore, MD - 1,839.4

6. Miami Gardens, FL - 1,828.0

7. Springfield, MA - 1,824.0

8. Orlando, FL - 1,748.1

9. Detroit, MI - 1,740.4

10. Miami, FL - 1,677.4

11. Little Rock, AR - 1,639.9

12. Compton, CA - 1,613.4

13. St. Petersburg, FL - 1,600.5

14. Tampa, FL - 1,594.7

15. Trenton, NJ - 1,579.5

16. North Charleston, SC - 1,557.3

17. Memphis, TN - 1,552.9

18. Nashville, TN - 1,550.3

19. Canton, OH - 1,493.4

20. Kansas City, MO - 1,443.8

New Orleans isn't on this list at all!?

I know that NOLA is obviously much more dangerous than cities like Little Rock and Tampa, but it's still suprising to me that it's not in the top 20 when talking about violent crime rates. That's something to be happy about for NOLA residents.

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People are often mistaken by disney when they think of Orlando... We have a lot of violent crimes and property crimes... just not many murders. There are a lot of "good looking" ghettos here. Seeing as how most places are only 20 yrs old at the most.

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The reason why Birmingham is on the list this year is because the sudden jump in violent crimes, i.e. murders and assaults. The BPD and the internal problems aren't helping either, so.

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New Orleans isn't on this list at all!?

I know that NOLA is obviously much more dangerous than cities like Little Rock and Tampa, but it's still suprising to me that it's not in the top 20 when talking about violent crime rates. That's something to be happy about for NOLA residents.

That is because New Orleans has less crime than other cities outside of murder.

Murder 264

Rape 189

Robbery 1836

Assault 2179

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/documents/CIUS2004.pdf?file

I wonder what the rates will be in 10 years when everything is running again and the poverty element has become less dominating. It will likely be quite a desireable place to live.

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Violent crimes are the total composite of Murders, Rapes, Robberies, and Assaults. Murders are actually a very small part of violent crime, with assault being the largest. So, while New Orleans actually has the second highest murder rate in the group, it's total violent crime rate is much lower. I'm guessing its because rapes and assaults are less likely to be reported in New Orleans than in other cities, but who knows.

BTW, this is how the cities rank for Murder rate:

1. Camden, NJ - 60.8

2. New Orleans, LA - 56.0

3. Gary, IN - 53.7

4. Richmond, VA - 47.3

5. Baltimore, MD - 43.5

6. Detroit, MI - 42.1

7. Compton, CA - 40.2

8. Washington, DC - 35.8

9. Richmond, CA - 33.8

10. St. Louis, MO - 33.7

11. Flint, MI - 32.3

12. Newark, NJ - 30.0

13. Jackson, MS - 29.3

14. Youngston, OH - 29.0

15. Atlanta, GA - 26.0

16. San Bernardino, CA - 25.3

17. Kansas City, KS - 25.3

18. Birmingham, AL - 24.8

19. Inglewood, CA - 22.3

20. Little Rock, AR - 21.5

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And this is how the cities rank when you take into account the total crime rate, which includes violent crime and property crime (burglary, larceny, motor vehicle theft).

1. St. Louis, MO - 13,636.3

2. Miami Beach, FL - 11,403.6

3. Little Rock, AR - 10,507.3

4. Macon, GA - 10,504.5

5. Chattanooga, TN - 10,443.8

6. West Palm Beach, FL - 10.303.8

7. Orlando, FL - 10,028.3

8. Hartford, CT - 9,977.7

9. Tucson, AZ - 9,936.5

10. Memphis, TN - 9,853.7

11. Salt Lake City, UT - 9,668.5

12. Spokane, WA - 9,634.9

13. Kansas City, KS - 9,618.9

14. Atlanta, GA - 9,558.3

15. Birmingham, AL - 9,547.1

16. Oklahoma City, OK - 9,505.9

17. Tacoma, WA - 9,344.5

18. Kansas City, MO - 9,294.6

19. Tampa, FL - 9,243.2

20. North Charleston, SC - 9,240.8

And if you count cities over 500,000:

1. Tucson, AZ - 9,936.5

2. Memphis, TN - 9,853.7

3. Oklahoma City, OK - 9,505.9

4. Dallas, TX - 8,972.0

5. Columbus, OH - 8,612.1

6. Portland, OR - 8,371.8

7. Charlotte-Mecklenburg, NC - 8,189.1

8. Seattle, WA - 8,092.0

9. Nashville, TN - 8,050.7

10. Detroit, MI - 8,019.7

11. Baltimore, MD - 7,524.4

12. Phoenix, AZ - 7,268.9

13. San Antonio, TX - 7,213.9

14. Houston, TX - 7,186.5

15. Fort Worth, TX - 7,139.4

16. Indianapolis, IN - 6,753.2

17. Austin, TX - 6,581.8

18. Jacksonville, FL - 6,292.4

19. Milwaukee, WI - 6,212.0

20. Denver, CO - 6,198.5

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What is your opinion of the "good looking" ghettos in Orlando?

BTW IMO Parramore is worse looking than anything ive seen in Tampa/st pete and even miami (and yes ive seen liberty city)

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Ha, and St Louis is safer then it was twenty years ago, if that will tell you anything. I know that St. Louis's biggest problem is car break-in's. It always has been the capitol for that list, but the murder rate has actually gone down. I assume that the biggest part of the problem still hangs in the East St. Louis area. Someone who lives in St. Louis could probably back that up for me?

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In its defense, St. Louis doesn't really have the benefit of crime-free suburban areas that cities like Houston, Los Angeles, and even New York have. Though on the flip side, San Francisco and Boston make due with their small boundaries. In the end St. Louis is no worse than some areas of larger cities. (Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit, etc.)

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What is your opinion of the "good looking" ghettos in Orlando?

BTW IMO Parramore is worse looking than anything ive seen in Tampa/st pete and even miami (and yes ive seen liberty city)

Parramore is old... I'm talking about the places in Kissimmee and East and West Orlando that havent been around that long. Around Jackson Middle School area... those appartments are only 25 yrs old at the most... They dont look that bad on the surface... But I used to live there and I wouldnt recommend walking around at night alone. The place I live in now is only 5 years old and they have a cop that parks here every night... looks great, like a new complex. You just cited one place, that is the worst and oldest ghetto in the whole metro... maybe one of the oldest in the state. But there are more than that.

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Boston has always had a fairly low crime rate for a city its size. Sad to hear that the murder rate is up this year though. Canadian cities such as Vancouver and Toronto have similar property crime rates to US cities but much lower violent crime rates. Toronto for example, has a population of 2.5 million but usually averages about 50 murders a year. Compare that to Chicago, which is about the same size but usually has about 600 murders a year.

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