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I'm leery of Rogers splitting, that the same thing could happen.

It's going to be a bit rough up here when the split the schools.

The current High School is where all the "cool" kids will go, while the New one they are building is going to be geared more towards the low income and hispanic kids. They were going to try to make one giant High school with two campuses, but the superientendant said too many kids would be excluded from extracuricular activities like Football, Basketball, etc. There's plans for a 3rd High School as well in 2015 I think.

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It's going to be a bit rough up here when the split the schools.

The current High School is where all the "cool" kids will go, while the New one they are building is going to be geared more towards the low income and hispanic kids. They were going to try to make one giant High school with two campuses, but the superientendant said too many kids would be excluded from extracuricular activities like Football, Basketball, etc. There's plans for a 3rd High School as well in 2015 I think.

From what I'm afraid the new schools will be called Rogers HS and El Rojeros. Segregation is not a good thing for the district as it's guaranteed to produce one very bad school.

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Sadly, I have to agree.

But there's really not much else they can do.

I still think Rogers and Springdale would better off going to 9th and 10th in one school and 11th and 12th in the other. NLR uses that system and it works well for them. It would have the added benefit of allowing them to keep a single athletic team. I think the loss of a single HS sports team is really going to impact town identities in Rogers and Springdale.

I'm admittedly biased on this, probably too much. I do think Rogers is going to have to split eventually one way or another so I don't blame them for going sooner rather than later. I think Springdale might be able to cope by splitting campuses, though.

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I still think Rogers and Springdale would better off going to 9th and 10th in one school and 11th and 12th in the other.

Too many kids would be excluded from the Sports programs. If you have a high school with 4000 students, than a lot of those kids are going to miss out on what others have. I think it's wise to go to two high schools, but the boundaries need to be a bit better.

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Too many kids would be excluded from the Sports programs. If you have a high school with 4000 students, than a lot of those kids are going to miss out on what others have. I think it's wise to go to two high schools, but the boundaries need to be a bit better.

A lot of kids are excluded from any AAAAA school's teams, I always thought that was kind of a silly argument. If you really want your kids to be able to play every sport they want to, move out to Elkins or Farmington.

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I thought the purpose of public education was education, not how many sports a student can be in. Sports are great but take them out of the schools and let them be out of school activities. Will the courts now force all sports programs in the state be equal. How many coaches would have been hired if their job would be to educate? Who would you rather have teach a math class? A part-time math teacher who majored in sports or a full time math teacher who majored in math.

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I still think Rogers and Springdale would better off going to 9th and 10th in one school and 11th and 12th in the other. NLR uses that system and it works well for them. It would have the added benefit of allowing them to keep a single athletic team. I think the loss of a single HS sports team is really going to impact town identities in Rogers and Springdale.

I'm admittedly biased on this, probably too much. I do think Rogers is going to have to split eventually one way or another so I don't blame them for going sooner rather than later. I think Springdale might be able to cope by splitting campuses, though.

That is how we do it in Plano.

9th & 10th go to high schools

11th & 12th go to Senior Highs

Thats how a city of 300k gets by with only three major visible public senior high schools. The 9th and 10th graders are sent to one of 5 "high schools".

I think to some degree there are kids who miss out on athletic opportunities. Each school, however, has incredible academic offerings.

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A lot of kids are excluded from any AAAAA school's teams, I always thought that was kind of a silly argument. If you really want your kids to be able to play every sport they want to, move out to Elkins or Farmington.

Jannie Darr won't stand for it. Too many parents would complain about it. And it's not just sports, but also school clubs, extra curicular activities.

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I thought the purpose of public education was education, not how many sports a student can be in. Sports are great but take them out of the schools and let them be out of school activities. Will the courts now force all sports programs in the state be equal. How many coaches would have been hired if their job would be to educate? Who would you rather have teach a math class? A part-time math teacher who majored in sports or a full time math teacher who majored in math.

I agree, as Dick stated I think larger schools have a lot of academic advantages as well and tend to perform better overall. Academics should be paramount and athletics second.

I would've loved to play high school basketball but I was mediocre at best. I might've played A ball but in AAAAA (well, AAAA then) I wasn't even that good in intramurals. It never bothered me at all, I still played streetball with my friends.

I went to the 5th largest school in the state and everyone that wanted to play football or play in the band got to do so.

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Jannie Darr won't stand for it. Too many parents would complain about it. And it's not just sports, but also school clubs, extra curicular activities.

Yeah, but it's a lot easier to have Latin Club, lacrosse teams, country and western dance teams, etc in a massive school. That's one advantage of going to a big school.

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Yeah, but it's a lot easier to have Latin Club, lacrosse teams, country and western dance teams, etc in a massive school. That's one advantage of going to a big school.

I guess I can see that. But they conducted a study on it about 8 months ago, and concluded it was in the best interests of the students to go to 2 high schools.

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I guess I can see that. But they conducted a study on it about 8 months ago, and concluded it was in the best interests of the students to go to 2 high schools.

I bet you could conduct another study and have the opposite conclusion. It's funny how that works. Springdale does a lot of things it does on the assumption it will have 100,000 residents in 2030. I think that's a far too optimistic prediction, but if the study used that number I'm sure they would conclude the city needs 3 high schools.

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I bet you could conduct another study and have the opposite conclusion. It's funny how that works. Springdale does a lot of things it does on the assumption it will have 100,000 residents in 2030. I think that's a far too optimistic prediction, but if the study used that number I'm sure they would conclude the city needs 3 high schools.

Probably.

What should have been done was an expansion on the existing high school to make it so more students could come. I have no objections to 2 High Schools, but I think the boundaries need to be set a bit better.

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Yeah, but it's a lot easier to have Latin Club, lacrosse teams, country and western dance teams, etc in a massive school. That's one advantage of going to a big school.

There could very well be some pressure externally on these school districts to split for "athletic" reasons. The AAA and its decision to further reclassify the largest schools athletically was based on the fact that Springdale and Rogers have enrollments more than double those of other schools they compete against in sports. Schools don't compete against each other academically (Quiz Bowl?) so its not an issue.

The good schools here in DFW have amazing offerings. Attending a high school football game is an amazing experience. Not just the athletic talent is represented. The schools have HUGE bands, JROTC corps escorting people to their seats, 50 member dance teams, 30 member cheer squads, and thats just the tip of the iceberg. There are clubs and organizations of any kind imagineable for high school and just about every kid in the school has a letter jacket, whether they get it from the debate team, wrestling, choir, or orchestra.

The size of those schools has to be taken into the context of NWA and Arkansas as a whole. I'd say many school in DFW with student populations near or above 3,000 students do an incredible job of preparing students for college and life beyond. The fact that Arkansas has so few schools of this magnitude makes 2,000-2,500 student schools seem "too big". Its largely a matter of context.

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There could very well be some pressure externally on these school districts to split for "athletic" reasons. The AAA and its decision to further reclassify the largest schools athletically was based on the fact that Springdale and Rogers have enrollments more than double those of other schools they compete against in sports. Schools don't compete against each other academically (Quiz Bowl?) so its not an issue.

The good schools here in DFW have amazing offerings. Attending a high school football game is an amazing experience. Not just the athletic talent is represented. The schools have HUGE bands, JROTC corps escorting people to their seats, 50 member dance teams, 30 member cheer squads, and thats just the tip of the iceberg. There are clubs and organizations of any kind imagineable for high school and just about every kid in the school has a letter jacket, whether they get it from the debate team, wrestling, choir, or orchestra.

The size of those schools has to be taken into the context of NWA and Arkansas as a whole. I'd say many school in DFW with student populations near or above 3,000 students do an incredible job of preparing students for college and life beyond. The fact that Arkansas has so few schools of this magnitude makes 2,000-2,500 student schools seem "too big". Its largely a matter of context.

I guess you could even make an arguement that these large schools can even feel a bit like a small university. Granted not everyone is going to go to a large university.

Agreed on all accounts. I think LR really realizes the mistake of creating too many small schools during its rapid-growth phase in the 70s and 80s. After all of these splits the school with the best identity, best athletics, and best academics is the largest school and one that may be the largest in the state again if those ahead of it split as planned, LR Central.

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Agreed on all accounts. I think LR really realizes the mistake of creating too many small schools during its rapid-growth phase in the 70s and 80s. After all of these splits the school with the best identity, best athletics, and best academics is the largest school and one that may be the largest in the state again if those ahead of it split as planned, LR Central.

LR did not set out to create small schools. The size is a result of the loss of white students. If the schools had the same ratio of students as the general population then the district would have another 15,000 plus students. THe district has 17,000 black students compared to 6,000 white students. But the population is 40% black and 55 % white for the city. Parkview was the last high school built(opened in 1969) for the Little Rock district. Fair and McClellan were added to the district in 1987 but were part of the Pulaski County district before that. In the 60's LR had Central, Hall, and Metropolitan before Parkview. During this time McClellan served a large number of students in the southwest part of the city.

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LR did not set out to create small schools. The size is a result of the loss of white students. If the schools had the same ratio of students as the general population then the district would have another 15,000 plus students. THe district has 17,000 black students compared to 6,000 white students. But the population is 40% black and 55 % white for the city. Parkview was the last high school built(opened in 1969) for the Little Rock district. Fair and McClellan were added to the district in 1987 but were part of the Pulaski County district before that. In the 60's LR had Central, Hall, and Metropolitan before Parkview. During this time McClellan served a large number of students in the southwest part of the city.

It's not like the schools are empty now, they're at or near capacity. When they were built they weren't small schools. In the early 90s when I as in high school the Little Rock high schools were all AAAAA meaning they were all amongst the state's 32 largest. However, since then a lot of schools have leapfrogged them and jumped to AAAAA and pushed a few of them back a classification. The PCSSD which also has smaller schools - Oak Grove, Robinson, North Pulaski, etc have generally been AAAA schools. I think looking back on things a much larger McClellan would've made more sense than having Fair, McClellan, and Mills so close.

The areas of the city that are largely white are served by Hall and Central and enrollment at these two schools has never been anywhere near a problem.

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It's not like the schools are empty now, they're at or near capacity. When they were built they weren't small schools. In the early 90s when I as in high school the Little Rock high schools were all AAAAA meaning they were all amongst the state's 32 largest. However, since then a lot of schools have leapfrogged them and jumped to AAAAA and pushed a few of them back a classification. The PCSSD which also has smaller schools - Oak Grove, Robinson, North Pulaski, etc have generally been AAAA schools. I think looking back on things a much larger McClellan would've made more sense than having Fair, McClellan, and Mills so close.

The areas of the city that are largely white are served by Hall and Central and enrollment at these two schools has never been anywhere near a problem.

Hall is AAAA now. The Bell bowl is no longer because Hall and Central don't play each other anymore.

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No offense, but shouldn't a new topic be started for all this school talk? I see a new post for a development I am interested in ,,,,but instead there is a tangent that has hijacked the thread, which frankly makes me feel I wasted my time clicking on it. Just my 2 cents.

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No offense, but shouldn't a new topic be started for all this school talk? I see a new post for a development I am interested in ,,,,but instead there is a tangent that has hijacked the thread, which frankly makes me feel I wasted my time clicking on it. Just my 2 cents.

There's a tangent on every thread that goes more than a page. That's just part of it.

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No offense, but shouldn't a new topic be started for all this school talk? I see a new post for a development I am interested in ,,,,but instead there is a tangent that has hijacked the thread, which frankly makes me feel I wasted my time clicking on it. Just my 2 cents.

LOL you only have 15 posts and are trying to tell people how to post and what to say?

In any forum, it's impossible to stay on one single topic in a thread. Topics are sometimes

so complex, that many other factors affect the thread topic. Sometimes people get way off base...but you just have to get used to it...it's a forum...many ideas and opinions are shared. It's impossible to divide them out accordingly, since they all are tied in some way. Just skim through until you see what you're looking for.

Happy Reading :D

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Hall is AAAA now. The Bell bowl is no longer because Hall and Central don't play each other anymore.

Are they not going to keep playing as nonconference opponents? That's a sad end to that tradition.

I guess Catholic and Central will end up being the big rivals in LR AAAAA, they already are to some extent but not as much as Hall. Catholic also had a big rivalry with Hall because of their proximity.

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