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2 hours ago, kermit said:

This probably isn't directly relevant to Charlotte (particularly since we do not have a stadium) but the Angels have opted out of their Anaheim lease and are having a tough time finding willing taxpayer funds for a new ballpark in the LA area: http://www.latimes.com/sports/mlb/la-sp-angels-anaheim-lease-20181016-story.html

 

Come on over to Charlotte.

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3 hours ago, kermit said:

This probably isn't directly relevant to Charlotte (particularly since we do not have a stadium) but the Angels have opted out of their Anaheim lease and are having a tough time finding willing taxpayer funds for a new ballpark in the LA area: http://www.latimes.com/sports/mlb/la-sp-angels-anaheim-lease-20181016-story.html

 

Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara (49'ers) Dodger Stadium and AT&T Park for San Francisco Giants were all built without taxpayer money. Other assistance such as infrastructure, bond holding entity, cost overrun insurance and other items made the construction possible but the stadia themselves are privately owned. Such is California.

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Unfortunately, location of teams in baseball is much more important than football because local tv money goes directly to the team.  So even being the second team in LA and actually playing in OC, there is no chance they ever leave.  Though there is also zero chance LA builds them a stadium, I could see them moving there simply for the increase in franchise value.  The Chargers and Rams both are paying huge relocation fees for the market and the impact on a baseball franchise is greater (the Angels could move for free).  That's why the Angels use the ridiculous LA Angels of Anaheim now (they wanted the LA name but were contractually obligated to keep Anaheim in the name).  I'm betting they build a new stadium anchored by a mixed use development (like the Braves) somewhere nicer in OC and drop Anaheim from the name.

There are possible relocation candidates but this isn't one of them.

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I laugh at folks who don't consider Charlotte is within an hours drive of millions more people.  Come on folks get educated.

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Problem is, nobody wants to drive more than even one hour to get to a baseball game on a weekday.  Panthers fans load up their trucks and RVs and make a whole day out of tailgating and the game.  Baseball relies on a clientele that can and will walk to the stadium from work.  Not saying Charlotte doesn't have that, but its a much different type of gameday.

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7 minutes ago, CTiger said:

Problem is, nobody wants to drive more than even one hour to get to a baseball game on a weekday.  Panthers fans load up their trucks and RVs and make a whole day out of tailgating and the game.  Baseball relies on a clientele that can and will walk to the stadium from work.  Not saying Charlotte doesn't have that, but its a much different type of gameday.

True, but I always here about market size and form my past reading Charlotte is middle of the road but can get more market share if the team is good (more affiliates).   I ma positive that out of 12 million people any Charlotte based team can get a fair sized viewership.  My point is that the cities market size does not match its potential when it comes too tv's.  As for game day, I don't know many teams that do well attendance wise unless they are a legacy team or within mega-metro (6 million or more).

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I personally would love to see MLB in Charlotte but think that chance is very minimal & distant at best.  I'm betting on MLS in Charlotte before any MLB especially now that Tepper is interested and willing to have BOA Stadium as host facility.  This is much more doable than MLB in CLT.

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1 hour ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

I personally would love to see MLB in Charlotte but think that chance is very minimal & distant at best.  I'm betting on MLS in Charlotte before any MLB especially now that Tepper is interested and willing to have BOA Stadium as host facility.  This is much more doable than MLB in CLT.

Tepper might want to start making intentions public if that is the case.  St. Louis behind the CEO of Enterprise is primed to get back into the race for an expansion team.  That leaves one spot to that 28 team league they're shooting for and Austin under the current Crew owner is on track for that now that the Columbus Crew are going to be sold and stay put.  We may have missed our window for the short term, not that it's a bad thing necessarily.

https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/city-board-approves-tax-incentives-for-major-league-soccer-stadium/article_95833a75-5595-5a27-a184-015325f8e494.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

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9 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

I personally would love to see MLB in Charlotte but think that chance is very minimal & distant at best.  I'm betting on MLS in Charlotte before any MLB especially now that Tepper is interested and willing to have BOA Stadium as host facility.  This is much more doable than MLB in CLT.

You've got a good point that with tepper MLS is considerably more likely now but I doubt MLB is any more distant. The Carolinas are a huge and untapped market for the MLB. The knights have excellent attendance already (almost on par with the lowest attendences in the current league). If they expand the league, I think it's extremely likely that CLT gets a team. But the possibility of a relocation of the Ray's, Marlin's, As, or pirates shouldn't be overlooked.

Would it be better in the long run to invest in a true soccer stadium or attempt to use Bank of America?

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14 hours ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

Definitely a very slick site and well produced. They’ve done their homework. 

Yup, you have to admit that Raleigh is much better than Charlotte at this kind of stuff.  They seemed to put a lot more effort in to the MLS bid, and I don't think Charlotte has any sort of grassroots campaign to bring MLB here.  Shame.   

Some of stats on that website are interesting to see.  Raleigh-Durham is the #1 richest metro in America without a baseball team? (I guess it depends on where you look.   I see Raleigh at $71k and Charlotte at $75k median income)

 #1 TV market without a baseball team?  (They count Charlotte as being in the Atlanta market lol.  Portland, Sacramento, Orlando are all higher but they consider them to be included in existing markets as well)   

Some of the numbers are dubious in my opinion, but the website is flashy and shows that people in the area care.

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4 minutes ago, CTiger said:

Yup, you have to admit that Raleigh is much better than Charlotte at this kind of stuff.  They seemed to put a lot more effort in to the MLS bid, and I don't think Charlotte has any sort of grassroots campaign to bring MLB here.  Shame.   

Some of stats on that website are interesting to see.  Raleigh-Durham is the #1 richest metro in America without a baseball team? (I guess it depends on where you look.   I see Raleigh at $71k and Charlotte at $75k median income)

 #1 TV market without a baseball team?  (They count Charlotte as being in the Atlanta market lol.  Portland, Sacramento, Orlando are all higher but they consider them to be included in existing markets as well)   

Some of the numbers are dubious in my opinion, but the website is flashy and shows that people in the area care.

Yeah I was looking at the website as well and their claims  seem a little suspect.  

I guess they consider Charlotte to be a regional extension of Atlanta otherwise they’d realize that Charlotte has a TV market larger than Raleigh (as does Portland; Sacramento and Orlando I do consider to be regional extensions of nearby teams).  If Charlotte is a regional extension of Atlanta’s market then why is Raleigh not considered a regional extension of DC’s market in their minds?  The distance between Raleigh and DC is about the same as the distance between Charlotte and Atlanta.  The TV ratings are not hidden by the way, I googled the Nielsen ratings and found September 2018 rankings (not out of date either) and Charlotte was a couple spots above Raleigh.

There is a grassroots movement to bring MLB to Charlotte led by a guy named Rick Curti.  Admittedly his sites don’t look as good as the Raleigh MLB website, but he has been at it for about 7 years and he gets tons of interviews from the local media about his efforts.  In my opinion he just needs some creative types to help him craft his pages a little better.

Here is the Facebook page:

https://m.facebook.com/cltbats/

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50 minutes ago, CTiger said:

Yup, you have to admit that Raleigh is much better than Charlotte at this kind of stuff.  They seemed to put a lot more effort in to the MLS bid, and I don't think Charlotte has any sort of grassroots campaign to bring MLB here.  Shame.   

Some of stats on that website are interesting to see.  Raleigh-Durham is the #1 richest metro in America without a baseball team? (I guess it depends on where you look.   I see Raleigh at $71k and Charlotte at $75k median income)

 #1 TV market without a baseball team?  (They count Charlotte as being in the Atlanta market lol.  Portland, Sacramento, Orlando are all higher but they consider them to be included in existing markets as well)   

Some of the numbers are dubious in my opinion, but the website is flashy and shows that people in the area care.

Yeah but their TV market is the Nats and O's so they do have a baseball team .......

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1 hour ago, cltbwimob said:

I guess they consider Charlotte to be a regional extension of Atlanta otherwise they’d realize that Charlotte has a TV market larger than Raleigh (as does Portland; Sacramento and Orlando I do consider to be regional extensions of nearby teams).  If Charlotte is a regional extension of Atlanta’s market then why is Raleigh not considered a regional extension of DC’s market in their minds?  The distance between Raleigh and DC is about the same as the distance between Charlotte and Atlanta.  The TV ratings are not hidden by the way, I googled the Nielsen ratings and found September 2018 rankings (not out of date either) and Charlotte was a couple spots above Raleigh.

This is also limited to US cities, while I believe the MLB has awknowledged that Montreal would be heavily considered for an expansion team.  I have no doubt that Montreal's TV market is bigger as well.

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