Virginia Beach Light Rail and Transit

[vdogg 314]

Without answers, apply brakes to BRT

The Virginian-Pilot

[vdogg 314]

I will be posting on subjects related to transportation issues in Virginia Beach.

[hoobo 1]

I want a camera system that gives tickets to tourists going 35 in the left lane on Shore Drive.

[rusthebuss 1]

I want a camera system that gives tickets to tourists going 35 in the left lane on Shore Drive.

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[rusthebuss 1]

no sh*t, i live on shore drive and i just cant stand it. why why why.....do people insist on driving 35 and sometimes even 30 mph on this road???????

and they all drive phatty rides with plates like this.....

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AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

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Dude i say again you are too funny!

[PeninsulaKiddo 1]

[rusthebuss 1]

I bet you could do this all day long! I think you missed your calling.

[vdogg 314]

Hmmm... Virginia Beach traffic and transportation. I think I spelled the thread title right.

[rusthebuss 1]

Hmmm... Virginia Beach traffic and transportation. I think I spelled the thread title right. 

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[soloextreme 0]

I dont care what you say, ........

"dubeu-tee-efff" , why is he always off topic......

[vdogg 314]

Seriously guys, we need to keep the off-topic post in the off-topic thread. I feel that I have been very polite about the situation but it is becoming hard to manage. When people come to a thread they expect to see discussion on issues related to that thread. I have been deleting post without comment but that does not seem to deter so I am going to have to start warning people from here on out. It is not hard to find the off-topic thread, It is right at the top of the forum.

[soloextreme 0]

Sounds good dogg. This place gets so dry in here, I was just trying to liven the place up a bit. I guess that remains in the "off-topic" only forum...

[urbanvb 57]

"One of the nation

[rusthebuss 1]

I wonder if the southwestern expressway is out of the picture now?

[vdogg 314]

I wonder if the southwestern expressway is out of the picture now?

You mean the southeastern expressway, right?

[urbanvb 57]

I wonder if the southwestern expressway is out of the picture now?

Not at all. I think VDOT is still questioning the plan bc of the wetlands but I think the project is still on the table.

[Padman 0]

Not at all. I think VDOT is still questioning the plan bc of the wetlands but I think the project is still on the table.

The Army Corp of Engineers and the environmental resource agencies are still questioning the plan for that road. Otherwise, it's still supported and going through the EIS process. Stay tuned, but let's not hold our breath.

[rusthebuss 1]

You mean the southeastern expressway, right?

Yes, as usual I stated it wrong.

I think this roadway is very critical to ease up traffic on 264

[urbanvb 57]

I agree it is a badly needed road. 264 is very congested at rush hour and I would think the new road would be most beneficial. I hope it gets approved.

[vdogg 314]

I think it's time we start hammering away on this subject in Va. Beach. Norfolk seems to be getting their act together but we seem to be dead in the water on most if not all of our initiatives. 264 overpass -postponed, BRT-delayed due to BRAC issues, southeastern expressway-turned down by army corp of engineers due to environmental issues. Purchasing Norfolk southern right of way-where are we on that?

I've found some links and some diagrams that I think you guys may be interested in in relation to Virginia Beachs BRT system.

Hot topics-BRT

BRT plan Warning! .pdf file.

Now admittedly, I'd much rather see LRT than BRT but after looking over the .pdf, I don't think it's such a bad plan. My only issue, way too much focus on the oceanfront. I think they need to turn more of their attention to our burgeoning business district first.

[urbanvb 57]

Still holding out and hoping VB will iron out the wrinkles with BRT at the Oceanfront and start there. It is not LRT but I think it is a good start.

Edited December 15, 2005 by guynvb

[wrldcoupe4 195]

I know how you feel... at home they were planning to bring back streetcars but now are leaning more towards brt.... better than nothing eh? If it is successful then it should hopefully lead to lrt....?

[hoobo 1]

Well, that BRT route expansion graphic is interesting. BRT is supposed to have dedicated lanes. That's what differentiates it from regular buses. So why is it shown as travelling on streets and highways? Does VB plan on taking a couple lanes from city streets? Will BRT's Shore Dr route mean the City is bent on making it a 6-lane road? And what about the NS ROW? Why does BRT travel down 264 and not on the ROW?

[rusthebuss 1]

Well, that BRT route expansion graphic is interesting. BRT is supposed to have dedicated lanes. That's what differentiates it from regular buses. So why is it shown as travelling on streets and highways? Does VB plan on taking a couple lanes from city streets? Will BRT's Shore Dr route mean the City is bent on making it a 6-lane road? And what about the NS ROW? Why does BRT travel down 264 and not on the ROW?

You know what they stop it all at the Town Center area and don't connect to Norfolk. This is completely stupid. Vabeach needs to get their heads out of their @sses!

[vdogg 314]

Ughh . Did anyone have th misfortune of travelling the Town Center area between say 4:30 and 6 today? I'm talking gridlock, New York style. It was nuts. I know i've complained about starbucks et al taking up valuable real estate but i'm actually glad they were there 2day. I pulled over, grabbed a cup of coffee, and sat it out. I've decided i'm not driving anymore til after Christmas is over!

Edited December 15, 2005 by vdogg