Jump to content

Chesapeake Development


Recommended Posts


  • Replies 214
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

The Grove industrial building now has the code name Blue Firebird. Site plan filed today for a 615,600 SF distribution center developed by Panattoni Dev Co, who has built a number of Amazon centers. 

Hopefully another city on the Southside will pick this up. Portsmouth could use an entertainment venue, and more hotel options downtown.  Chesapeake doesn't thinks it's residences want more enter

The proposal passed the PC tonight. There are a few additional  details. If the proposal is denied, the tenant will likely fall back to Northgate in Suffolk but the city is really clearing the path fo

Posted Images

Looks like the city council approved a condo project in S. Norfolk.

The first project, Portlock Square, includes about 30 units on three acres. It was backed by several South Norfolk leaders who viewed it as a catalyst to transform the area. It would include stores on the ground level and condos on the second and third floors. Coupled with the recently approved Mill Creek Village, advocates said, the condos will help make the Bainbridge Boulevard corridor a destination for young families.

story

I am not sure if this is the same development we were discussing in another thread or perhaps just another development for that area.

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 4 weeks later...

Chesapeake's Econ Development Dept website keeps crashing on me. Conspiracy? I'll let you decided. From the couple pdf's I was able to open, the "Greenbrier" area's boundary is open to debate. However, from the job demographic pdf's I wouldn't say that the employment is mostly retail. Downtown has its fair share of retail. What Downtown lacks is industrial businesses which are abundant in Greenbrier. Comparing Greenbrier to Lynnhaven and Downtown to Pembroke would be more accurate comparisons.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldn't be too surprised or too alarmed by this. It reflects a 30+ year trend of job suburbanization that has occurred nationally. Look at the Census Journey to Work data and you'll see it. The Virginia Beach and Newport News Town Centers are just a new twist on this trend. I believe and I hope that there will be a renewed emphasis on downtown Norfolk as a better quality workplace, but the travel time, cost and convenience factors will weigh heavily in how much office development we can expect there. Parking is another factor. It may help LRT to limit parking downtown, but not the development potential of downtown.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah, the conclusions made by this article are suspect. They really should've delved a little bit more into the quality of these jobs in Chesapeake vs. the quality in Norfolk.

This is an attempt to bring life to Chesapeake. This so to speak attack is because when you feel threaten by something you attack it out of defense. I don't understand the need for the comparison. What was the whole point of it? What is the median income coming from DT and the Greenbrier section? Why not just go Norfolk jobs v. Chesapeake jobs?

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is an attempt to bring life to Chesapeake. This so to speak attack is because when you feel threaten by something you attack it out of defense. I don't understand the need for the comparison. What was the whole point of it? What is the median income coming from DT and the Greenbrier section? Why not just go Norfolk jobs v. Chesapeake jobs?

Agreed. Maybe what we need is a way to bring some focus and character to all of that development in Greenbrier. "Town Center" concepts are a good start. Both Pembroke and Greenbrier have similar problems in this area, but Pembroke has a head start on meeting the problem.

The type of jobs is also a factor. Are we counting the Sentara/EVMS medical empire in Downtown Norfolk? Also there are some larger regional and even national offices downtown that you might not typically see in the suburbs. I see a pattern where there is a compact core downtown in Norfolk, and several satellite or suburban downtowns outside. Lynnhaven is also a huge job center. There's no reason why we can't have more jobs by sheer numbers in any of these locations.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Agreed. Maybe what we need is a way to bring some focus and character to all of that development in Greenbrier. "Town Center" concepts are a good start. Both Pembroke and Greenbrier have similar problems in this area, but Pembroke has a head start on meeting the problem.

Greenbrier has a very long ways to go to get any type of character resembling Pembroke. I find Greenbrier a smaller version of Lynnhaven Parkway - all suburban sprawl.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Greenbrier has a very long ways to go to get any type of character resembling Pembroke. I find Greenbrier a smaller version of Lynnhaven Parkway - all suburban sprawl.

From the article, emphasis added:

Chesapeake and Norfolk leaders stress the cities are not in competition with each other. In fact, new jobs in Norfolk often go to workers who live outside of the city limits. Chesapeake

Link to post
Share on other sites

One major development project involving mixed use designs and office towers, and a Town Center type of retail and eatery pavillion is all that you would need to bring some focus to the Greenbrier mess. The proximity to I-64 and I-464, a viable shopping mall, along with reasonable access to the Chesapeake suburbs and even North Carolina make the Greenbrier area a pretty compelling location for some additional development. I think it's just waiting to happen, but I don't mind being wrong on this as it's not my favorite place.

Link to post
Share on other sites

One major development project involving mixed use designs and office towers, and a Town Center type of retail and eatery pavillion is all that you would need to bring some focus to the Greenbrier mess. The proximity to I-64 and I-464, a viable shopping mall, along with reasonable access to the Chesapeake suburbs and even North Carolina make the Greenbrier area a pretty compelling location for some additional development. I think it's just waiting to happen, but I don't mind being wrong on this as it's not my favorite place.

It seems though that Chesapeake is actually trying to focus their urbanization efforts on the South Norfolk corridor. Greenbrier will likely remain as is. We have to keep in mind that most of that cities residents prefer that very suburban character. I think the most we'll see in that corridor is maybe some denser condo development that is focused around retail, but not a town center in the truest sense of the word.

Link to post
Share on other sites

It seems though that Chesapeake is actually trying to focus their urbanization efforts on the South Norfolk corridor. Greenbrier will likely remain as is. We have to keep in mind that most of that cities residents prefer that very suburban character. I think the most we'll see in that corridor is maybe some denser condo development that is focused around retail, but not a town center in the truest sense of the word.

That South Norfolk corridor sure seems like a long shot to me, but could offer some interesting views from a high rise. It just seems too industrial in a rust-beltish sort of way to be attractive for high-end residential use. Environmental degragation has to be a pretty big problem there also. But anything is possible, and that land must be pretty cheap.

Link to post
Share on other sites

That South Norfolk corridor sure seems like a long shot to me, but could offer some interesting views from a high rise. It just seems too industrial in a rust-beltish sort of way to be attractive for high-end residential use. Environmental degragation has to be a pretty big problem there also. But anything is possible, and that land must be pretty cheap.

Alot of those houses are considered historic too in South Norfolk so I don't know that they have too much room for alot of development.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Alot of those houses are considered historic too in South Norfolk so I don't know that they have too much room for alot of development.

Actually that is a plus for that area. There is currently several empty lots that can be developed as well as hundreds of homes that can be renovated.

South Norfolk was once a great community and will become a great community again. It is in a prime location in the metro. It has great interstate access. It has a history. It has affordable land and houses, and when people that can not afford to buy in the other cities start looking for a fixer upper building, they will look here. This development that will happen on the water, if done right could be the spark that area needs.

So expect to see South Norfolk moving back in the radar of things in the next twenty years.

**If you go to Google Earth and look up Chesapeake, the center of Chesapeake is just off of Poindexter and on D St. in the heart of South Norfolk. It is Chesapeake's downtown.

Looking at the borders, I would like to see Norfolk jump on board with this and start renovating their part along the river, that area could be such a great area and lifestyle if people their showed any care in it.

Edited by urbanlife
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...

I knew it was a matter of time before sprawl reached that part of chesapeake. I hope they have a plan in place on how they will urbanize the road structure of that area because as it is now, that kind of development will only worsen the traffic making the edge of the city unbearable to do even just daily activities.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.