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14 hours ago, eandslee said:

I've actually heard RIC airport officials say the opposite - that with the growth of Richmond, the airport will likely see more air service.  You're saying the airport needs to grow first and then Richmond's growth will explode thereafter.  This is a classic case of the chicken and the egg.  Obviously, these are two completely opposite opinions.  So which is it really?  Does the airport need to land a hub/expand service significantly first or does the metro area need to grow/see significant economic growth to feed the airport's growth?  Just genuinely asking because I wonder which theory is really correct?

The truth is somewhere in between. But look at cities that have boomed - and look at the role their greatly expanded airports have played in that boom. Yes - RVA is growing and growing very nicely. But there's a WORLD of difference between growing at 12 or 14% and growing at 30 or 35%.  RVA can likely sustain the level of growth we're currently enjoying (provided the overall economic climate continues to promote growth -meaning no 2008-style meltdowns) - without greatly expanding the airport. BUT - put a hub here? I think we'll get that ridiculous growth that the Charlottes, Raleighs and other cities across the country have been getting.

Yes -it's a chicken and egg - and RVA's growth will help RIC get better direct service, more flights, more destinations. But it's not the same as pulling in a hub here. Organic growth isn't necessarily going to land us a hub - at least not SOON. Conversely, landing a hub WILL cause RVA to grow much more explosively than we are now. That track record is proven in city after city after city around the country.

It boils down to - are you satisfied with slow growth - which will keep RVA lagging behind other mid-sized cities that are growing at a much faster rate and are getting much larger much more quickly? Or do you want explosive growth that will push RVA much higher up the ladder of bigger mid-size (or smaller "big") cities? I want that explosive growth. I'm not satisfied with slow but steady organic growth. Not when we have the potential to REALLY take off!

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16 hours ago, wrldcoupe4 said:

I would think the lack of direct flights to major west coast markets inhibits us a bit. 

At least we have nonstop flights to LAX…for now.  Hope that we see expanded service to west coast destinations soon. I heard that Breeze Airways may be the one to do it!

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Not sure if anyone saw the story on the airport and the stuff that Troy bell mentioned that ric is getting ready to do. The story came out on September 8th. Mentioned renovating the customs area that could lead to new flights to places in Canada and the carribean and also talked the expansion of the concourse b apron. I also heard the air national guard left giving ric hundreds more acres to work with for down the road. I’ll see if I can find the story again. Had a lot of positive and good things with it. Just need people to start using it more instead of going to Dulles or Reagan or even Norfolk international. Those are the kind of things that really hurt us in the long run. 

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1 minute ago, Downtowner said:

Not sure if anyone saw the story on the airport and the stuff that Troy bell mentioned that ric is getting ready to do. The story came out on September 8th. Mentioned renovating the customs area that could lead to new flights to places in Canada and the carribean and also talked the expansion of the concourse b apron. I also heard the air national guard left giving ric hundreds more acres to work with for down the road. I’ll see if I can find the story again. Had a lot of positive and good things with it. Just need people to start using it more instead of going to Dulles or Reagan or even Norfolk international. Those are the kind of things that really hurt us in the long run. 

Hey downtowner - I missed it completely. If you can find it and link us up, it would be awesome! I'd love to read about this. Was this in the Times-Dispatch?

Agreed - we need folks to fly RIC and not DCA or ORF - we need to schlep as many people through RIC's gates as humanly possible going forward, (given the levels of service we have, that is).

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Wow it seems like Richmond is entering or still in another building boom...I wish my city could say the same.....

 

Plan!....Set it up!.....Start building!......Suddenly cancel it..... -Norfolk's quote the for last 10 years of construction.

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10 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:

Wow it seems like Richmond is entering or still in another building boom...I wish my city could say the same.....

 

Plan!....Set it up!.....Start building!......Suddenly cancel it..... -Norfolk's quote the for last 10 years of construction.

From what I have been watching over there, I think Norfolk is starting to get there.  You may be a few years behind in comparison but it will happen.

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13 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:

Wow it seems like Richmond is entering or still in another building boom...I wish my city could say the same.....

 

Plan!....Set it up!.....Start building!......Suddenly cancel it..... -Norfolk's quote the for last 10 years of construction.

At least you guys have the population that Richmond could only dream of. I mean 200k more and y’all are in the 2 million people population as a metro. I can’t wait to see the day when Richmond hits 2 million people. But me being 32 at the moment I don’t think I will live old enough to see that. If I do it will be amazing. But I’m not so optimistic I will get to see Richmond with that kind of growth. 

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1 hour ago, ronsmytheiii said:

One good commuter rail line from Richmond to Northern Virginia/DC would take care of everything, but unfortunately it isnt there. If Richmond could do an every hour, less than two hour rail trip to Alexandria downtown would fill up right quick.

Richmond will have hourly train service to Washington DC by 2030. Getting the travel time down to 2 hours will be breeze if we can build dedicated track for passenger trains, which just so happens to be in the long term plan for the rail line. 

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5 hours ago, Downtowner said:

At least you guys have the population that Richmond could only dream of. I mean 200k more and y’all are in the 2 million people population as a metro. I can’t wait to see the day when Richmond hits 2 million people. But me being 32 at the moment I don’t think I will live old enough to see that. If I do it will be amazing. But I’m not so optimistic I will get to see Richmond with that kind of growth. 

I'm turning 59 next month. I pretty much am resigned to the fact that I'll never live to see it.  When I was a lot younger, I was honestly hoping to see us crack 2 million metro well before now - like at least a decade or more before now.

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8 hours ago, Downtowner said:

At least you guys have the population that Richmond could only dream of. I mean 200k more and y’all are in the 2 million people population as a metro. I can’t wait to see the day when Richmond hits 2 million people. But me being 32 at the moment I don’t think I will live old enough to see that. If I do it will be amazing. But I’m not so optimistic I will get to see Richmond with that kind of growth. 

Your not entirely wrong but do notice that our population is slowing down. Though our metro area as The City of Norfolk we are friking huge! One of the biggest on the East Coast! But for now Richmond's building boom is something we dream of over here in Norfolk...

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12 hours ago, Icetera said:

From what I have been watching over there, I think Norfolk is starting to get there.  You may be a few years behind in comparison but it will happen.

Yea your right kinda....All we need is the casino and I believe that will attract hopefully at least one fortune 500 company into the area and build a tower Downtown. Once we get that we get a building boom because if its good enough for a fortune 500 company then a bunch of other companies jump in.   EDIT:  This is mostly what I REALLY Hope. For now its nothing but a fever dream.

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